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***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

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I just don't understand why Samsung would choose this processor instead of using one of their own in house Exynos processors which I'm sure they could supply cheaper since they produce them.

I'm not sure they can manufacture enough Exynos 4410. My understanding is that some of the SGS2 use non-Exynos because of supply problems.

I have played around a lot with the Bionic, and I'm sorry Bionic owners, but it flat out sucks. Typical Android UI lagginess because the OMAP processor sucks. Read any mobile processor benchmark testing review and you will see that Exynos spanks everything.

Bionic may have UI lagginess due to Blur and the fact that it's pushing around 35% more pixels than SGS2. Prime is supposedly going to be vanilla, but it will have even more pixels. Bionic's 4430's GPU isn't very good, but the 4460 w/same GPU will be clocked 26% higher.

I believe the 4460, even if clocked at 1.5ghz, will be a downgrade from the 4410 at 1.2Ghz(proc in SGSII).

Perhaps in 3D apps, but I think CPU-wise a 1.5GHz 4460 will be considerably faster.

Why would samsung pay more money for a OMAP 4460 when they could use the Exynos 4410?

See above, maybe they don't have enough available.

I know that reports are stating the 1.5Ghz Exynos 4412 will not start sampling until Q4 2011, but that is for 3rd party devices not Samsung.

What does that matter? If a chip isn't ready for a 3rd party to sell, it's not ready for Samsung to sell directly either.

Also, if the SGSII HD LTE already is using the 4412, why couldnt the Prime? There are hands on videos of the SGSII HD LTE with the 4412 in it.

I thought the SGS2 HD LTE isn't shipping until 2012. Prime is supposed to ship in... early November? I'd guess the videos are showing early engineering samples.

I would even take the Exynos 4410 clocked down to 1Ghz over any OMAP, even if clocked over 1.5ghz.

Definitely not me!

clockrate means nothing, just look at the early days of the AMD intel battles where AMD wiped the floor with intel even when they were clocked sometimes close to twice the clockrate.

Pentium 4 had a crummy design w/too long pipeline, the design ran way hot, it depended on code being compiled to take advantage of its finicky requirements, and I think it also depended for good performance on RAMBUS RAM that become extremely expensive at speeds fast enough to feed a high-clocked P4. But you're right that clock speeds won't translate 1:1 between different architectures.
 
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This is getting weird. My sister texted me and told me that higher-ups at Verizon are getting scared of talking about upcoming phones. Seems someone got caught leaking something and is getting in trouble big time. Like possibly losing their job.

I wonder if this has anything to do with any of the leaks we've been getting today or not. Might not even be Nexus-related. But still, weird.

Dang. I would guess the Nexus. It is the first that I have seen for them to remain so tight-lipped about.
 
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P3Droid just tweeted: "How many of you would buy the NexusPrime if it was not subsidized, and no contract..full retail of 600+"

What if Verizon does decide not to subsidize? Aside from the fact that they'll undoubtedly sell less phones, Verizon doesn't really have a reason to subsidize if, say, they're deal is just to let Samsung/Google sell it and they just let it work on their network. How would everyone feel about paying full price? I would certainly have to think about it, but I'm sure it won't stop me (even though I am a lowly law student, this is something I save my $$$ for!).


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This thread (rather, my addiction to this thread) has really thrown a wrench into my study plans for my first year of law school. Hopefully it'll all be worth it and this phone can take my exams for me! :D
 
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P3Droid just tweeted: "How many of you would buy the NexusPrime if it was not subsidized, and no contract..full retail of 600+"

What if Verizon does decide not to subsidize? Aside from the fact that they'll undoubtedly sell less phones, Verizon doesn't really have a reason to subsidize if, say, they're deal is just to let Samsung/Google sell it and they just let it work on their network. How would everyone feel about paying full price? I would certainly have to think about it, but I'm sure it won't stop me (even though I am a lowly law student, this is something I save my $$$ for!).


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This thread (rather, my addiction to this thread) has really thrown a wrench into my study plans for my first year of law school. Hopefully it'll all be worth it and this phone can take my exams for me! :D

I don't think I could do it. But I highly doubt that would happen. Like you said, unsubsidized = less sales. I don't think Verizon would go for that. They've got to know this has the potential to be the best-selling device of the year, especially with the iFail disaster.

Unless the price on this phone is astronomical, like Note-territory, subsidizing this phone wouldn't be any different from subsidizing the Vigor or Bionic.

Also, Verizon knows that with the timing of this release, many OG Droid owners are coming out of their contracts and will be re-upping with the Nexus. They'd be stupid not to subsidize it. I'm not worried.
 
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Ah... didn't think about the crappy Moto skin on top as being the culprit instead of the OMAP processor.

Take this for what it's worth...

I have an HTC Thunderbolt (personal phone) as well as a Droid 3 (work phone). Now my TBolt is rooted and running CM7 but I can tell you that simple tasks like turning on an alarm is quick and easy (as it should be). The D3 struggles to complete this task. You press the checkmark next to the alarm and it may take 2-3 seconds to actually respond. It's pretty pathetic. I do not blame the 1.0 GHz dual dore OMAP processor for this...I blame the software.

Once you get the D3 up and running, it speeds up but it is just a sluggish phone overall...more so than my TBolt and that has a single core processor. I gotta believe that a dual core OMAP should best a single core Snapdragon. My D1 wasn't this sluggish and that had 256MB of RAM so the RAM difference doesn't seem to be the cause either. What's the biggest difference...motoblur! Yikes! It looks prettier but still slows down the phone like crazy. So much worse than Sense and Touchwiz.

I am pretty sure the Prime (insert "correct" name of the day here) is going to be my next device. I signed a 1 year contract for a reason and now that I will only be eligible only once device every 20 months...I don't know that I can buy another skinned phone. Pure Google for me please!

4.65" curved HD screen, ICS (no skin on top of it), LTE? Yeah...that's all I really need to know. I hope it is 9mm thin...I hope there is a great camera...I hope there is a micro SD card slot...but whatever limitations this phone may have when it is released, I'm pretty sure it will still be the best option for me.

I just hope it is released in January when I am eligible for an upgrade...I don't think I could wait 2-3 months knowing it is out there waiting for me :D
 
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If Apple has taught me ANYTHING, it's that it's not all about specs. I'd take the prime over any higher spec'd phone (if there are any) simply because it is optimized by Google and Samsung themselves to run ICS perfectly. I don't want something that launched with Gingerbread and then have to be updated months later to ICS.

I fullheartedly agree with this. To ANYONE who is complaining or worried about those extra .3 mhz or the 3 megapixels you might be missing out. I would take a much more fluid and efficient phone that does everything it does at 100% awesome than a phone with 20% better specs that does things 30% less efficiently or awesome.

Samsung and Google might just be taking one of the good pages out of the fruit's strategy book and putting their time and effort into a quality vanilla google experience instead of a super specs machine. Which I for one will be incredibly thankful for when I first wrap my grubby little fingers around this phone.


And Seriously, Nexus experience, Dual core, HD screen, LTE, ICE CREAM SAMMICH. Those 5 qualities are unprecedented in any one single phone yet to date. This is going to be a game changer fellas. Stop worrying either way. :D
 
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P3Droid just tweeted: "How many of you would buy the NexusPrime if it was not subsidized, and no contract..full retail of 600+"

What if Verizon does decide not to subsidize? Aside from the fact that they'll undoubtedly sell less phones, Verizon doesn't really have a reason to subsidize if, say, they're deal is just to let Samsung/Google sell it and they just let it work on their network. How would everyone feel about paying full price? I would certainly have to think about it, but I'm sure it won't stop me (even though I am a lowly law student, this is something I save my $$$ for!).


P.S.

This thread (rather, my addiction to this thread) has really thrown a wrench into my study plans for my first year of law school. Hopefully it'll all be worth it and this phone can take my exams for me! :D

If that's the case, they damned well better decrease the price of my contract. The price of the subsidized phone is supposed to be built into the contract, so if they don't decrease the price of the contract AND don't subsidize the phone, they're ripping people off.

I don't see the slightest chance of this happening.
 
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P3Droid just tweeted: "How many of you would buy the NexusPrime if it was not subsidized, and no contract..full retail of 600+"

What if Verizon does decide not to subsidize? Aside from the fact that they'll undoubtedly sell less phones, Verizon doesn't really have a reason to subsidize if, say, they're deal is just to let Samsung/Google sell it and they just let it work on their network. How would everyone feel about paying full price? I would certainly have to think about it, but I'm sure it won't stop me (even though I am a lowly law student, this is something I save my $$$ for!).


P.S.

This thread (rather, my addiction to this thread) has really thrown a wrench into my study plans for my first year of law school. Hopefully it'll all be worth it and this phone can take my exams for me! :D


not a total deal breaker but that is something to think about. Correct me if i'm wrong but wasn't some of the other Nexus devices unsubsidized?

....may make me think even more about the Vigor.
 
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Why do people even still read BGR, honestly? I think some of the editors just wake up and publish whatever they want, to get traffic. There have been so many instances of their "sources" being completely vapor and their articles total fabrication. I understand people are clamoring for anything at all that might be true about the next nexus device, but BGR's track record is a complete joke.
 
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Wife: Is that a new phone you have there, Steven?
Steven: Huh? What?
Wife: The phone. It looks different. Is it new?
Steven: Uh.. when was your last eye exam?
Wife: My eyes are fine! That's a new phone! How much did you spend on it?
Steven: uh... 300 dollars?
Wife: Fine. Don't hassle me when I want (insert 3 thousand dollars worth of merchanise here).
Steven: Whatever.


Steven, this phone looks so different...you know you're not going to be able to fool her! lol
 
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I can't get over how nuts this thread is. I just checked the Bionic rumors thread to see if we were as crazy about that phone (considering many of us were waiting almost a year for it), and it got to 18 pages and 883 posts.

Unbelievable!

I can't remember exactly how big the Incredible thread ultimately got, but this one is surely giving it a run for its money on EPICness. As far as I can remember, I got involved with the Incredible thread when it was still being called Bravo/Passion and that was around December '09 with the phone finally being released at the end of April... that was four months of intense threading! This is beginning to look like a tradition. Every 18 months or so we all get back together and speculate on one spectacular phone after another. I, for one, wouldn't trade it for anything. Also, I know someone mentioned it a while back, but this thread has been surprisingly civil and calm unlike other threads I've been a part of. It's fantastic. Let's hope the phone is just as EPIC!
 
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Take this for what it's worth...

I have an HTC Thunderbolt (personal phone) as well as a Droid 3 (work phone). Now my TBolt is rooted and running CM7 but I can tell you that simple tasks like turning on an alarm is quick and easy (as it should be). The D3 struggles to complete this task. You press the checkmark next to the alarm and it may take 2-3 seconds to actually respond. It's pretty pathetic. I do not blame the 1.0 GHz dual dore OMAP processor for this...I blame the software.

Once you get the D3 up and running, it speeds up but it is just a sluggish phone overall...more so than my TBolt and that has a single core processor. I gotta believe that a dual core OMAP should best a single core Snapdragon. My D1 wasn't this sluggish and that had 256MB of RAM so the RAM difference doesn't seem to be the cause either. What's the biggest difference...motoblur! Yikes! It looks prettier but still slows down the phone like crazy. So much worse than Sense and Touchwiz.

I am pretty sure the Prime (insert "correct" name of the day here) is going to be my next device. I signed a 1 year contract for a reason and now that I will only be eligible only once device every 20 months...I don't know that I can buy another skinned phone. Pure Google for me please!

4.65" curved HD screen, ICS (no skin on top of it), LTE? Yeah...that's all I really need to know. I hope it is 9mm thin...I hope there is a great camera...I hope there is a micro SD card slot...but whatever limitations this phone may have when it is released, I'm pretty sure it will still be the best option for me.

I just hope it is released in January when I am eligible for an upgrade...I don't think I could wait 2-3 months knowing it is out there waiting for me :D

UBR! man, long time no see!!

i made a commitment to not buy a device until i hold the Nexus and Spyder side by side. now that the Nexus is so close, i'm realizing it's gonna be about the longest month of my life waiting for the Spyder to release... LOL
 
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