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Thinking about jumping the Apple ship, need some advice

Crookedsoul

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Quick background - had the iphone since the first one came out. Have enjoyed the iphone but not overly impressed with the 4GS. Have to get a new phone since my wife put her old iphone at the bottom of a lake. (I gave her my iphone 4)

Im on ATT and have always been interested in the Android system. Considering the Galaxy S2, but is there a better phone out there? Is there a phone coming out in the next month or so that might be worth waiting for?

What are the big differences between the two (Apple and Android) to begin with?

Are there things you can do on Apple but not on Android and vice versa?

I know these are basic questions, but I am very limited in my knowledge here. Any advice would help?
 
In terms of raw functionality, Android has the edge. On the hardware side, you have a removable memory card that allows you to expand if you need to. iPhones have built in memory, so if you ever need more, you're kinda stuck. If you look at the price delta between their various sizes, it's a pretty big ripoff. Among the 3 iphone 4s models, they're charging $100 for each additional 16gb.

iPhones also have a battery that is not designed to be swapped out. It can be done if you like to tinker and take apart machines, but the manufacturers on the Android side make the battery removable like most electronic devices: there's a back door that opens up and reveals the battery.

Androids can be mounted like a USB thumb drive (USB mass storage device) by simply plugging in your phone to your computer. You can then move files over using your PC's operating system interface. Furthermore, media files, like music, photos, and video, etc are automatically picked up by Android once you unmount the phone.

On the iPhone, the phone mounts to the PC only as a camera, and you have read-only access to the photos on the phone. As an iPhone owner, you're aware of needing iTunes to sync files to the computer, which is a pretty archaic way of doing things. With the new iPhone, at least you have the option of syncing via iCloud. I would hope that it's not a true "sync." I don't get why things always have to match 1:1. Sometimes I just want to copy a subset of my data over to the phone.

iPhones offer one button off-screen (home) while Androids typically offer four. This is going to come down to a matter of preference. If you're used to one way, the other way will seem wrong. Or maybe not. I find that I prefer to use the Android buttons for navigation rather than the buttons built into the app. It's a waste of screen real estate to always have a banner at the top of an app for navigation.

Android gives you Google Navigation, which is a free turn-by-turn voice Navigation app. The OS also gives you widgets, which are really handy when you find the ones that fit with how you use your phone. The homescreens aren't just a sea of icons, and even if you choose to use them for icons only, you can move them wherever you want and lay them out like you would on a desktop. iOS forces them all to be next to each other.

As far as apps go, Apple has the edge particularly with games. But these days, non-gaming apps are comparable. Any company with a decent app is developing on both platforms, so it's rare to find something only available on the App Store but not Android Market.

So... from a functionality standpoint, you're going to get more choice. Some people feel that additional freedom and flexibility is overwhelming, making the phone feel "harder to use." As always, when you're switching between different interfaces, change can sometimes be interpreted as unintuitive. If you take that under consideration, you should have no issues making the switch to Android.
 
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SGS2 is held as the best phone CURRENTLY out there. The Sensation XE is still to be fully benchmarked AFAIK to see if its better. It has a rather inferior SnapDragon chipset compared to the Exynos on the SGS2, but its clockspeed is a 1.5Ghz dual core compared to a 1.2Ghz dual core on the SGS2.

Then we have the Prime coming up, with apparently a 1.5Ghz Exynos (making it theoretically better than either SGS2 or SXE). The only weakness it could have against an SGS2 is probably internal memory availability.

Note however that since you are coming from an iPhone, a Samsung branded device (non-Nexus as Prime would be made by Samsung) would present the most familiar of the shelf interface for you. Admittedly however this may not be much of a consideration since you can change the UI of the phone whenever you want.
 
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Yes. I too want to thank you for the informative post. I'm in a similiar situation. I waited in line back in "07" for the first iphone, and when they announced the 4s last week, I knew I was done with Apple phones. I got the LG Thrill though, and I'm still not sure whether to keep it or switch to the SG2. The 3D on it is surprisingly good and makes for a fun conversation piece.

I certainly share you're enthusiasm with Android, and I learned a few tips from your post. I hadn't even wondered what that icon was on the far left of the bottom screen;) I now realize I can do without the settings icon on my home screen. I'm sure I have just begun to tap all the potential here, and I'm still unsure about some things like why some apps won't stay turned off. The learning experience is half the fun though.

The only thing I'm slightly unhappy with is the camera. I've posted a couple times already trying to find out if it's only my LG, or whether no other phone has as good a camera as the iphone. The quality is most obvious in low light. With the iphone, I could get some amazing photos indoor with no flash that looked very natural. So far I've been unable to match that quality with my LG.
 
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I feel the same way you do, Av8r, in regards to 3D. I have the HTC Evo 3D on Sprint. If I was given an SGS2 completely free, I'm not sure if I would use it. The SGS2 does out perform it, but I like the form and function of my 3D phone. I also use the dedicated camera button a lot.

But overall, a number of good, objective reviews here. Most of us here try not to be fanboys and hate on Apple just because we're in the Android camp. I dislike Apple due to their legal team shenanigans and the fact that I can't do on an iDevice that I can do on an Android. But I often recommend people look into getting an iDevice if they don't care about customization and just want an easy user experience, which Apple excels at.
 
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Hi Everyone,

It's not my intent to threadjack, but my situation is exactly the same Crookedsoul and I figure it makes sense for me to piggyback on this discussion, instead of creating a duplicate thread.

I have also been using the iPhone since its introduction but am now considering jumping to Android. I first started to think about making the change after Leo Laporte switched from iphone to android. I respect his opinion, as he's a down to earth, objective person. But I was waiting to see what the next thing from Apple after the iPhone 4 would be, in order to choose a direction. While I think the 4S is a good update, there are some key reasons that I am looking elsewhere: I want the fastest device possible, 4G / LTE service, a bigger screen, expandable storage, wi-fi hotspot, plus flexibility to configure and customize the device as I like.

I really appreciate Novox77's posting, which has the kind of objective information I'm looking for, in order to decide if I am ready for this change. But if others have more to add to the discussion, I'd love to hear it, because I haven't yet made up my mind.

Personally, I am looking at the Droid Bionic on Verizon and I spent about 45 minutes checking it out at the store. I am happy with the functions that I was able to try out on a device that wasn't configured with a google account (and I have to say I was surprised by how much wouldn't work without an account configured -- not that this is a big deal, just an observation).

Here are my remaining concerns and questions:

Is the 'droid web browser highly compatible? Do you encounter many sites that don't' like it?

Does 'droid include voice dialing (without paying mobile carrier for it)?

Should virtually all bluetooth devices on the market work with a 'droid phone, or are there limitations? What about the typical "iphone" wired headset with 3 buttons? Do those work as expected (and adjust volume, play / pause, answer call / hangup etc.)?

The virtual keyboard font seems very light / thin to me and the letters aren't obvious at a glance. Can this font or its boldness / thickness be changed?

I am a Mac user and I'd like to hear from other Mac users, who own 'droid phones. Especially with regard to any limitations when using iPhoto for pictures and iTunes for music and podcasts.

It looks like iSyncr will make a 'droid phone work with itunes just like an iphone. Which I was very happy to discover. Is it reliable and effective?

How is the split between the internal memory and the microSD card handled by the OS? Does each storage segment appear to the computer separately? Separately? Or just the SD card?

Can itunes using isyncr take advantage of both internal and SD storage, or just SD?

Can i play audiobooks and podcasts at 2x playback speed? I'm subscribed to a lot of podcasts and this is how I listen to most of them, because I can get fit more shows into my day. I would not be able to do without this capability, so it's truly a deal-breaker feature, if it's not included.

How does a Mac user backup the device? The iphone gets backed up by itunes automatically. Anything similar for 'droid?

Do you think Verizon will provide an Android OS version 4 update for the Droid Bionic?

The Bionic seems to be a great device and there's not much reason to wait for something else. But since the Samsung Droid Prime is right around the corner (I read November), should I wait for that?

Sorry to go on for so long, but I don't really want to buy the device and then find out that it's not what I want or need. I appreciate your input.

Chris
 
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Pros & cons of both, I'm too lazy to list them all but let me put this out there: the genius bar in the apple store. Ok ok so there have been times when they've tried to wriggle out of free repair or swap but overall, it's refreshing to walk up to someone & go "ere, mr, sort this out for me will ya!" & they are that brand so mostly they will not want to tarnish their own image.

Compare this to phone shops who are the middle man between you & the brand. There was also a report on Watchdog (UK consumer bitchfest TV) regarding a certain Android manufaturer & their total lack of customer service when these phones needed repair. A colleague has one & I had been slightly jealous of it until I saw this report. Luckily I have a different brand of Android & my service went quite well!
 
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Hi Everyone,



I am a Mac user and I'd like to hear from other Mac users, who own 'droid phones. Especially with regard to any limitations when using iPhoto for pictures and iTunes for music and podcasts.


Chris

I'm a mac user & still drag & drop. No biggy it has USB afterall. This is the safest option for getting music on Android. There may be an app for your brand of phone that works on mac (motorola does) that will sync itunes playlists & media, but something is up in translation there as everytime I used it made compilation tracks into albums of their own (duplicates) all with the same album art. I don't get this problem with drag & drop. Some people have complained about it's handling of other formats like AAC with regards to tagging (it likes mp3 though!).

Android will never be as good as an ipod until they revamp it's media handling system. I've seen better behaving mp3 keyfobs that play other formats without problems.
 
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The only thing I'm slightly unhappy with is the camera. I've posted a couple times already trying to find out if it's only my LG, or whether no other phone has as good a camera as the iphone. The quality is most obvious in low light. With the iphone, I could get some amazing photos indoor with no flash that looked very natural. So far I've been unable to match that quality with my LG.

LG isnt exactly known for cameras, not are HTC. You'd be better off with a Samsung or Sony, who actually do make digital cameras, as they do know how to make real cameras.

Anyway, many people do find that iPhone photos are great. Well yes they are good, but its more on the post processing by the phone itself as far as I can see. In some ways, iPhone photos are over processed. The photos are bright and colors pop, making for a visually appealing photo when looked at on the phone or PC, but with less detail than other phones whose processing focuses more on keeping as much detail as possible instead of making a visually appealing photo (which you can do on a PC without sacrificing lost details as the iPhone camera does).

Its merely a difference on the kind of post processing done. Apple knows that people are "wowed" by the bright colors, and that most people dont really alter their photos on their PC to make the colors pop. So they do it for them immediately. Thats where the appeal of Apple came in. A lot of people just want stuff done for them, and dont really like learning curves. This is one of the reasons why the seemingly extended options and settings on Android phones make other people feel that its complicated.
 
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Hi Everyone,

It's not my intent to threadjack, but my situation is exactly the same Crookedsoul and I figure it makes sense for me to piggyback on this discussion, instead of creating a duplicate thread.

No worries. :) Welcome to the forums!

I have also been using the iPhone since its introduction but am now considering jumping to Android. I first started to think about making the change after Leo Laporte switched from iphone to android. I respect his opinion, as he's a down to earth, objective person. But I was waiting to see what the next thing from Apple after the iPhone 4 would be, in order to choose a direction. While I think the 4S is a good update, there are some key reasons that I am looking elsewhere: I want the fastest device possible, 4G / LTE service, a bigger screen, expandable storage, wi-fi hotspot, plus flexibility to configure and customize the device as I like.

I really appreciate Novox77's posting, which has the kind of objective information I'm looking for, in order to decide if I am ready for this change. But if others have more to add to the discussion, I'd love to hear it, because I haven't yet made up my mind.
There are two popular (and often fun) debates in the Android world:


  • What is the best processor (often called by their proper class name, SoC (for system on (a) chip))
  • What is the best UI for Android

On the first, the top dogs are the TI OMAP, Samsung Exynos, Qualcomm Snapdragon S3 types, and NVIDIA Tegra. While their various fans will at times insist that one is a Porche and the others are Ford Pintos, it's really more like a comparison of Mercedes, BWM and Audi. In fact, depending where you live or what carrier you choose (if in the US), you'll find the Samsung Galaxy S II is a family of phones with variations that uses three of four top dogs, but all go by the name Samsung Galaxy S II - so despite performance variations with pros and cons in specific areas, this isn't necessarily the top detail to worry about in a phone. Matters are confounded for consumers because phone info-blogs love to post meaningless benchmark results in an effort to make themselves seem relevant and informative when most (not all) of the published benchmark methods are simply baloney sausage. (Remember, info-blogs are in it for the advertising click-thru revenue and may say anything to get web hits.)

On the user interface (UI), this is not like the iPhone at all, this is Android and our battle cry (if we have one) is that Android is all about choice. If you like effective eye candy (I way do), then you want to demo the HTC phones to check out their UI called HTC Sense. The Samsungs will come with a UI that's called TouchWiz and many say that it's a bit more iPhone-like in its overall presentation than others. While many Android detractors will tell you that iPhones have gpu hardware acceleration where Android does not, that's not strictly true, as both Sense and the new TouchWiz 4 (found on the SGS2) feature hardware acceleration. For the Motorola phones, they have a UI added on called Blur, not hardware accelerated, so far as I know.

Almost finally, we have the stock Android experience that we colloquially call vanilla Android. This UI is what comes on Google Nexus phones (Nexus models are specified by Google and completely controlled by Google for the user experience, regardless of who makes them). Vanilla Android is very popular with Android purists and can be added by a software change to any Android phone through the rooting process (our name for jailbreaking, same concept - sorta). Also, vanilla Android is known to run faster because it has less UI bloat. (This is especially true of Sense, but those of us who like it, don't care.)

Finally, this is Android where choice is good, so you can simply change out your UI and choose from a nice aftermarket selection without rooting your phone.

This is why it's important to test drive a few in stores once you've narrowed down your choices - the printed page and video samples of how phones work can go only so far. You may find a UI that really just clicks for you.

If you're wondering how you can separate the UI from the operating system (OS) then it's helpful if you were around when Apple first explained OS X as the Unix OS with Aqua UI overlaid on top of it - it's like that.

In fact, it's more like that than the iPhone is. The Android operating system is Linux (preemptive unix multitasking, 100% exactly like OS X) with a virtual machine called Dalvik that your apps run within. iOS multitasks, but it uses cooperative multitasking. So while iOS very much gives an OS X feel in many areas, under the hood it's much more like Windows 95 than OS X.

That's not a commercial, it will impact upcoming answers. ;)

Personally, I am looking at the Droid Bionic on Verizon and I spent about 45 minutes checking it out at the store. I am happy with the functions that I was able to try out on a device that wasn't configured with a google account (and I have to say I was surprised by how much wouldn't work without an account configured -- not that this is a big deal, just an observation).
There's a lot attached to that Google account working in your favor. You can add an extension to your Firefox or Chrome browser on your laptop and send web links directly to your phone, you can re-acquire your paid apps for free without any hassle, and your apps are logged by Google, so if you erase your phone apps or need to replace your phone, you can re-access your apps quickly and easily.

Here are my remaining concerns and questions:

Is the 'droid web browser highly compatible? Do you encounter many sites that don't' like it?
The basis for most all Android browsers is a code base called WebKit - the same one used in Safari. Further, you can set your browser to identify itself as an iPhone, Android or a desktop browser. (In fact, using the stock browser on developer websites that auto-detect what people have, they welcome me as a Safari user with unix, therefore likely using a Mac - cracks me up every time.)

One minor area where there is an issue is when you get those pesky web log-ins as found in some institutions before you can access their wifi. Where the iPhone Safari never fails, the stock Android browser will on occasion not like a service using less than the latest security protocols. No worries, check with us here and we'll recommend the latest add-on browser if you ever have that problem.

In fact - one of the first things you're liable to do with your Android is venture out and try different email clients and web browsers. You're likely to develop a favorite other than what comes with your phone, and they're free to try and keep.

Did I mention Android is all about choice? :)

Does 'droid include voice dialing (without paying mobile carrier for it)?
Yep.

Should virtually all bluetooth devices on the market work with a 'droid phone, or are there limitations? What about the typical "iphone" wired headset with 3 buttons? Do those work as expected (and adjust volume, play / pause, answer call / hangup etc.)?
Tricky - if you mean to include Bluetooth car units in that, then the answer will be that it will depend on the phone model and the answer may be yes or no. Everyone designs to the iPhone it seems, but many/most/all Bluetooth functions may or may work with Android.

Bluetooth headsets, no problem.

As for wired headsets with extra controls - no. Because of the variety of hardware, not all wired sets with those features work with all variations of hardware. Murphy's Law has dictated that my current-favorite wired headset has never had working controls with my current-favorite Android phone.

The virtual keyboard font seems very light / thin to me and the letters aren't obvious at a glance. Can this font or its boldness / thickness be changed?
Choice is good, change keyboards. :)

If you like the iPhone keyboard font and appearance, add the Flex T9 keyboard, it will appear very similar (if not identical) to what you're used to. In addition to normal typing, you can slide your fingers from key to key in a gesture called swiping to form words (fans of that will insist it's faster on a glass keyboard), or you can switch modes to actually use your finger like a crayon and draw letters and it includes the same Dragon engine as found on Macs for voice to text. It's a paid app but it's inexpensive.

I am a Mac user and I'd like to hear from other Mac users, who own 'droid phones. Especially with regard to any limitations when using iPhoto for pictures and iTunes for music and podcasts.
No limitations, you'll simply select how to transfer things, wirelessly or via the USB cable, drag and drop or add a free app to your Android so that the Mac sees it as just another Apple shared storage point (DavDrive).

Following the industry standard, all of your photos are in a subdirectory on your SD card called DCIM (digital camera image). Once upon a time, you could plug your Android into your Mac via USB and iPhoto would immediate recognize it as a valid but unknown digital camera and everything Just Worked. In an infuriating move, during one of the Leopard updates, Apple "fixed" iPhoto so that this no longer works directly, specifically to limit competition. If you ask about this on an Apple website, you'll hear it's because Android is inferior, but that's all a corporate lie. So, in iPhoto, you have to go to File->Import and point to your Android to get the job done (an extra step), but the job does get done.

It looks like iSyncr will make a 'droid phone work with itunes just like an iphone. Which I was very happy to discover. Is it reliable and effective?
Yeah, it's ok, lots of people like that and also DoubleTwist. I prefer drag and drop as described earlier. Frankly, iTunes syncing is another thing they've broken over the lifetime of iTunes. If you've used iTunes throughout its entire history (as I have), you'll note that iTunes has incrementally taken sync/transfer features away while somehow advertising that they improved things. Go figure.

How is the split between the internal memory and the microSD card handled by the OS? Does each storage segment appear to the computer separately? Separately? Or just the SD card?

Can itunes using isyncr take advantage of both internal and SD storage, or just SD?
This is an important question, more than you anticipated.

I want to digress and point out that whole multitasking thing because it's important for you as the end-user here.

iPhones have more internal memory (typically) and come with a choice of it where Androids (typically) do not because iPhones REQUIRE more memory. iPhone apps are fast, sleek, cool - and they're huge. Android apps are compact and efficient because they make use of the underlying unix services that are always available to every app - each iPhone app has to redundantly include that stuff. So - iPhone app=memory hog, Android app=slim and trim.

Now, on to your question. Apps will store some data in the internal memory area, but most data for most apps (and specifically, ALL media files) will go strictly to your SD card.

When you find an Android with more than 4GB of internal memory (popular on Verizon phones and on Samsung phones to have more like that) then a portion of that is tagged as SD card memory (even though it's on the motherboard).

So, in those cases, your user guide will direct you to "internal SD card" (user area on motherboard memory) and "external SD card" (um - actual SD card, ok? :)).

The rest of us just have _the_ SD card.

Can i play audiobooks and podcasts at 2x playback speed? I'm subscribed to a lot of podcasts and this is how I listen to most of them, because I can get fit more shows into my day. I would not be able to do without this capability, so it's truly a deal-breaker feature, if it's not included.
I don't do that, so I have no idea. However - media/podcast players are free, and if it's possible on Android, somebuddy's probably made a free app for it.

Have we mentioned that most Android apps are free and many functions are simply built-in to Android, right out of the box, that you're used to paying for on an iPhone?

How does a Mac user backup the device? The iphone gets backed up by itunes automatically. Anything similar for 'droid?
Your contacts and calendar are automagically backed up to the Google cloud, you do nothing. (By the way, it's easy to integrate your Mac Address Book and Calendar on your laptop with that.) Your apps get registered on the Market.

For a low price (I think it's like 5 bucks) you can go with something like MyBackup Pro, that's a nice, user-friendly backup. If you root your phone, you can make an image backup (perfect image of your phone) for free.

Do you think Verizon will provide an Android OS version 4 update for the Droid Bionic?
Me personally, yes, I think there would be an insurrection if Verizon doesn't support that update.

The Bionic seems to be a great device and there's not much reason to wait for something else. But since the Samsung Droid Prime is right around the corner (I read November), should I wait for that?
Trust your gut instincts, but many are saying that the new Prime is the most exciting thing coming down the pike since Santa Claus - it's poised to be quite the beast. ;)

Sorry to go on for so long, but I don't really want to buy the device and then find out that it's not what I want or need. I appreciate your input.
Long post? Who notices such things? :D :D :D
 
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Hi Everyone...

Personally, I am looking at the Droid Bionic on Verizon and I spent about 45 minutes checking it out at the store. I am happy with the functions that I was able to try out on a device that wasn't configured with a google account (and I have to say I was surprised by how much wouldn't work without an account configured -- not that this is a big deal, just an observation).

If You are seriously considering the Bionic, you should post these questions in Motorola Droid Bionic - Android Forums where people who actually own one can give you a better picture. I don'r have one, and there are some minor and some major differences between manufacturers' handsets. Anything beyond this point will just be general Android information.

Here are my remaining concerns and questions:

Is the 'droid web browser highly compatible? Do you encounter many sites that don't' like it?

The default browser does an okay job, although there have been reports on some phones that the latest update to Gingerbread will identify the browser as mobile, even if you set the useragent to desktop. Personally, I haven't experienced any of that. The nice thing about Android is the wide variety of browsers available. Many people prefer Dolphin as a fast, lightweight browser. Others are trying Firefox while I seem to gravitate toward Opera mobile. Given the options, I've yet to find a website that i couldn't get through, even with Flash content and security protocols.

Does 'droid include voice dialing (without paying mobile carrier for it)?

That's a good question. The answer is "it should." Voice Dialing works moderately well on my Nexus One but I only use it through the hands-free interface in my car. The Galaxy S (Captivate) had known issues with voice dialing although that was supposed to be fixed. One thing you should know is that much of the voice recognition is shunted to Google's servers so you will need an active data connection for much of it to work. It's not a huge data load, but it does need data. This is something I'd definitely check with a Bionic owner before deciding.

Should virtually all bluetooth devices on the market work with a 'droid phone, or are there limitations? What about the typical "iphone" wired headset with 3 buttons? Do those work as expected (and adjust volume, play / pause, answer call / hangup etc.)?

Again, different manufacturers implement things a little differently. the three button headsets work on my my phones, but not my tablet at all functions. I've never had a device not pair with my phones, nor have I ever had one not perform the basic function for which it was intended.

The virtual keyboard font seems very light / thin to me and the letters aren't obvious at a glance. Can this font or its boldness / thickness be changed?

There are all kinds of replacement keyboards in the market. My preference is Swype, but that is strictly a personal choice. See what you like best.

I am a Mac user and I'd like to hear from other Mac users, who own 'droid phones. Especially with regard to any limitations when using iPhoto for pictures and iTunes for music and podcasts.

It looks like iSyncr will make a 'droid phone work with itunes just like an iphone. Which I was very happy to discover. Is it reliable and effective?

It's nice to have third party apps like iSyncr to help with the transition from iOS to Android, but you must understand that they are based upon different paradigms. While you can get an Android phone to act like an iPhone, it's forced at best. Android is all about cloud services and sync'ing in that regard. The sooner you learn to cut the iTunes umbilical cord, the better your Android experience will be. I realize that many previous iPhone users have been conditioned to the iTunes manner of doing things, but it really is an unnecessary step with Android. If you notice, iOS is just now including the wireless sync that Android has always had, even if it still requires iTunes.

How is the split between the internal memory and the microSD card handled by the OS? Does each storage segment appear to the computer separately? Separately? Or just the SD card?

Can itunes using isyncr take advantage of both internal and SD storage, or just SD?

Many of the newer phones have multiple internal partitions, with 2- GB for system and apps and the remaining mounted at /sdcard/. To the Android System, this looks like external storage even though it is on built in memory. You can also at an additional SD card on most phones (not all, so check before you commit) which will mount at a point the manufacture determines. In any case, the system will use the internal partition as the default SD card and store the "external data" there. The only real downside to this is many people think that the SD card the system is reporting is referring to the actual external SD card, and if they break the phone, they can't find their files, which, may or may not be retrievable at this point. Like all data, backups are important.

Can i play audiobooks and podcasts at 2x playback speed? I'm subscribed to a lot of podcasts and this is how I listen to most of them, because I can get fit more shows into my day. I would not be able to do without this capability, so it's truly a deal-breaker feature, if it's not included.

Sorry, don't know about that one.

How does a Mac user backup the device? The iphone gets backed up by itunes automatically. Anything similar for 'droid?

Google will back up your apps to the cloud. (you can opt in or out of this depending on the size of your tinfoil hat ;) ). There are also many backup utilities available in the market. I'd recommend those that work wirelessly. If you are going to be rooting and experimenting with custom rom's, then you'll want to do full system backups in case something goes awry. In that case, most use Titanium Backup ? root | AppBrain Android Market.

Do you think Verizon will provide an Android OS version 4 update for the Droid Bionic?

The general rule of thumb is that handsets will get at least one system update before they are orphaned by the manufacturer. It's usually two for anything but the most basic of phones and three for the top models. I'd say it's a comfortable bet that the Bionic will get Ice Cream Sandwich. However, there is no guarantee or timeline.

The Bionic seems to be a great device and there's not much reason to wait for something else. But since the Samsung Droid Prime is right around the corner (I read November), should I wait for that?

There is always something better just over the horizon. You have to look inward for that decision. Even though the Bionic is the cutting edge today, if a month into a two year contract it goes to number two, how will you feel about it? Many people say they will be okay and then have 23 months of buyer's remorse. The problem is that there is a possibility that the Prime will be surpassed by something else shortly thereafter, and that the Prime may not be that much better than the Bionic. Until these things get into the wild, there's only speculation based on reviews and press releases.
 
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I feel the same way you do, Av8r, in regards to 3D. I have the HTC Evo 3D on Sprint. If I was given an SGS2 completely free, I'm not sure if I would use it. The SGS2 does out perform it, but I like the form and function of my 3D phone. I also use the dedicated camera button a lot.

But overall, a number of good, objective reviews here. Most of us here try not to be fanboys and hate on Apple just because we're in the Android camp. I dislike Apple due to their legal team shenanigans and the fact that I can't do on an iDevice that I can do on an Android. But I often recommend people look into getting an iDevice if they don't care about customization and just want an easy user experience, which Apple excels at.

I completely agree with your comment regarding recommending people to an iDevice for simplicity. The iPhone is certainly a contender with it's usability and for simplicity sake, while still offering a great user experience. My mother in law, for example, can't seem to make a single independent decision to save her life! Hence, setting up her phone would likely prove to be a painful experience for her if she were on a droid. lol ...which is why she loves her iPhone. She says she doesn't have to think about anything with it because it's already been thought of for her. I think that's a pretty good description in a nutshell regarding the fundamental differences between an iPhone and an Android.
 
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Hiya MacPro, here is my experience in regard to a few of your questions:

Is the 'droid web browser highly compatible? Do you encounter many sites that don't' like it?

I have found the droid browser to be extremely fast and very comfortable to use on all the websites I've visited. PDF downloads are excellent to read and can be saved (I'm using drop box to store my files on the cloud and QuickOffice PDA viewer automatically incorporates it's use, making the entire download, save, access process a seamless experience for me), forms are easy to fill out, zooming and resizing is pretty much just as pleasant as on the iPhone. The ONLY issue I've found so far are with websites that use iFrame components (little windows that require you to scroll through a list to view entire contents). The default browser doesn't seem to support that at all since it was first reported as an issue a couple years ago. However, I've heard that you can get other browser apps that support multi-touch that can work with this. I went ahead and downloaded Dolphin Browser HD. Seems to be an excellent browser and I would make that my default except it seems to render slower than the droid browser. I haven't been able to test out the iFrame scrolling yet with it though as I don't know off the top of my head, any sites that use it.

Can i play audiobooks and podcasts at 2x playback speed? I'm subscribed to a lot of podcasts and this is how I listen to most of them, because I can get fit more shows into my day. I would not be able to do without this capability, so it's truly a deal-breaker feature, if it's not included.

I'm with you on this and am happy to report that I have found a couple "podcast trappers" that make podcast content management pretty good. I'm currently trying out "BeyondPod". It's pretty easy to setup your podcasts and you can control it's update cycles. When you listen to them, the player interface allows adjustable speed plays and scrubbing. So far I've been pretty happy with it. You can get a free version and a paid version for $6.99. Also, PodTrapper seems to be an excellent podcast manager, although, I can't really speak for it yet as I haven't tried it and I'm not seeing a "Trial version" available for it in the Market place. There might be a free trial version on the dev's website though so I may give that a try next week.
 
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Thanks for all the info. Last night I went and got the S2. I will admit it is alot different, but I really like the differences. The main issues I am having right now are very elementary to some of you I'm sure.

1. I can't get my contacts on my mac to synch with google so I can get them on the phone.

2. I bought the air synch program with double twist and everything looked fine but it doesn't show any music so I can select it to synch. Will try to connect with a USB today and see if that helps.

The S2 is crazy fast, seems to allow a ton of customization, there just seems to be a learning curve. Hopefully some quality time with the phone over the next couple days will help.

I really appreciate all the input, keep it coming. I know it gets old to hear some of the same noob questions again and again, but it helps people like myself so much, thanks again
 
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