***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[AntimonyER]

A bit.



Well, Steven's Love Tunnel did say it had a big battery, and the AC guy the other night was talking about a 2000mAh battery, so it's possible.

It's so good to have a removable battery, though, in case you want an extra one for to throw an extended one on there (although it might make it look like a camel).

Here's hoping it's a bigger battery than 1750. But if not, I'll deal with it. The other perks are way too numerous to be hung up on that for too long.

I agree, and even with 1750, should still be better than my thunderbolt

 

[Deleted User]

I apologize for being clueless, but want to learn...what you wrote up there...is that a good thing for this phone or bad? I'm torn between this phone, the RAZR and the Rezound and I'm hearing all of this overclocked business and have no clue what all that means. I thought I was set with he Rezound, but last night has my head spinning!!! Thanks in advance.

Well... it's really neither good nor bad. It just... is.

You're getting a 1.2 GHz phone. Since it's ostensibly a 1.5 GHz processor (capable, I mean), it will probably mean a greater overhead for overclocking (which was described above - it means forcing your processor to run faster than it is normally set to). They say there were problems with pushing it to 1.5 GHz, but there's no telling what that means - for production, they basically need 100% of the chips to be capable of 1.5 GHz, so it may mean that 97% of the chips are perfectly fine at that speed.

Is that better or worse than getting a 1.5 GHz chip out of the box? I don't know, you tell me. 1.5 GHz out of the box may have required higher voltage, thus shorter battery life... or maybe not, given the race to idle school of thought. On the other hand, that may have forced Google to optimize the OS even further since they had ~20% fewer clock cycles to work with, so maybe the aftermarket overclock will net better performance than if they had the factory 1.5 GHz to work with.

Really no telling whether it's good or bad.

 

[HanSolo]

On another subject, there's a lot of flak about the 1750 mAh battery. Something to think about: there's a school of thought that says higher performance gains you better battery life. Google "race to idle." Thus, it may well be that some of the performance suck from the LTE radio or the bigger screen may be offset by an accelerated OS which will reduce the amount of time the CPU has to work.

Just speculation, of course. I'm happy to see it has a replaceable battery, though.

Also, SAMOLED uses no power for black colors. So that will help out in battery life as well, especially if you like to use dark wallpapers.

 

[atrain311]

Atrain, every processor runs at a certain speed, measure in cycles per second or Hertz (Hz). The OMAP 4460 is supposed to run at 1500 MILLION Hz, or 1.5 Gigahertz (GHz). It has apparently been underclocked to 1.2GHz to conserve battery.

"Overclocking" simply means that the user can root the phone, install custom programs that speed up the processor to 1.5, 1.8, 2GHz?

OMAP 4460 seems very smooth and quite good enough for me at the speed that it is. However: if my heavy streaming starts to take its toll and slow it down, I can overclock it and speed it up.

Hope this helps.

Thank you, by the way, guys...so, am I correct in saying that if the Razor is using a 4430 it isn't as good as the Nexus using a 4460? I won't be gaming at all on the phone, I have my 360s and PS3 for that. I also have never streamed a movie, but wouldn't count it out. Am I correct in saying that these specs are all good for my needs?

 

[kyler13]

All you folks waiting on something better around the corner, you might as well go on hiatus for a good 10 months until the next nexus. Beyond that, I doubt you see ICS on any new release phone before May at the soonest, and what good is a 28nm 1.5 Ghz dual core processor running unoptimized on gingerbread? It will still probably underperform the 4460 on ICS. Specs aside, I'll get this phone for being the flagship Android device that will ride the leading edge of software updates. At this point, everyone should be well aware of the painful wait on OS upgrades that comes with each and every manufacturer's own offering.

 

[Deleted User]

Thank you, by the way, guys...so, am I correct in saying that if the Razor is using a 4430 it isn't as good as the Nexus using a 4460? I won't be gaming at all on the phone, I have my 360s and PS3 for that. I also have never streamed a movie, but wouldn't count it out. Am I correct in saying that these specs are all good for my needs?

The specs are good for your needs, yes.

And yes, the 4430 will not be as good as the 4460 - but for your needs, given that you don't game, they will probably perform extremely similarly. Either one would be great.

 

[Ynomrah]

Thank you! If my pics and videos can get uploaded to a personal cloud or something (so they're not taking up memory space), then I'll be a happy camper without a microSD card. With that much memory, I should even be able to survive a trip to the in-laws...

I took my Droid out last night and set her on the desk so she could see her replacement for the first time. I think she approves. Am I going psychotic on this phone?

EDIT: If the Verizon version is slightly thicker for the LTE chip, what's to say that they won't drop a bigger battery in while they're at it?

Yes exactly. Only thing different here however is that I'm not into the whole cloud concept as of yet personally. Using my wireless data for streaming my content isn't the optimal solution to me yet (but i will still try it). I'm more-so hooked on the idea that '32gb is enough' and then at that point cloud storage become an secondary option.

I will probably be using my laptop for data transferring more often than before is all.

 

[HanSolo]

Thank you, by the way, guys...so, am I correct in saying that if the Razor is using a 4430 it isn't as good as the Nexus using a 4460? I won't be gaming at all on the phone, I have my 360s and PS3 for that. I also have never streamed a movie, but wouldn't count it out. Am I correct in saying that these specs are all good for my needs?

If you're not gaming but streaming movies, even the 4430 would be enough, I think. The upside with the Nexus is you'd get full 720p resolution. If you stream HD movies from Netflix on, say the RAZR, it's still not going to be in full HD because of the resolution limitations.

 

[Jeepo]

Hdmi out? Can I fire this onto my flat screen tv?

 

[Deleted User]

Hdmi out? Can I fire this onto my flat screen tv?

There is no HDMI port and HDMI wasn't mentioned, but some devices are capable of HDMI over USB, so there's still a possibility.

 

[xtop]

All you folks waiting on something better around the corner, you might as well go on hiatus for a good 10 months until the next nexus. Beyond that, I doubt you see ICS on any new release phone before May at the soonest, and what good is a 28nm 1.5 Ghz dual core processor running unoptimized on gingerbread? It will still probably underperform the 4460 on ICS. Specs aside, I'll get this phone for being the flagship Android device that will ride the leading edge of software updates. At this point, everyone should be well aware of the painful wait on OS upgrades that comes with each and every manufacturer's own offering.

why would it take 6+ months for another ics phone to come out?

 

[HanSolo]

Hdmi out? Can I fire this onto my flat screen tv?

I think OTD said it would support MHL, which is better because it provides HDMI out and it charges your phone at the same time.

But I don't think that's confirmed yet.

 

[Jeepo]

Cool. I have held of buying an overpriced adapter for my iPhone as I want the nexus, hopefully that can still happen! I imagine so!

 

[kastleberg]

Oh my. What a chat last night. The whole thing was great. Morning fellow nexers.

 

[Jon Nale]

I don't know if anyone has posted the camera samples from engadget, but they, in my opinion, are less than impressive.

Most of the pictures turned out unfocused. I am not sure if this is a result of the camera, or of the person taking the pictures. I want to think it is a result of the person taking the pictures, but how difficult is it to take pictures with a phone?

Although the photos were less than impressive, I thought the video they shot looked really good (despite the camera man moving around A LOT).

Thoughts? Opinions?

Samsung Galaxy Nexus camera and 1080p video samples -- Engadget


EDIT: Here is an example of one of the pictures they took:

 

[dakster]

I think OTD said it would support MHL, which is better because it provides HDMI out and it charges your phone at the same time.

But I don't think that's confirmed yet.

I believe the galaxy sII has MHL, so I would *hope* the gnex does as well. I'm all on board with everything I've seen so far, but not having MHL would not make me particularly happy.

 

[HanSolo]

Oh my. What a chat last night. The whole thing was great. Morning fellow nexers.

Morning!

I had to work so I missed it.

But I read the live blog from one of the sites and I watched the unveiling this morning.

Hey, does anyone know what happened to those questions that some people submitted to the boss for Hong Kong?

I don't think I've seen anything on that.

 

[xtop]

I don't know if anyone has posted the camera samples from engadget, but they, in my opinion, are less than impressive.

Most of the pictures turned out unfocused. I am not sure if this is a result of the camera, or of the person taking the pictures. I want to think it is a result of the person taking the pictures, but how difficult is it to take pictures with a phone?

Although the photos were less than impressive, I thought the video they shot looked really good (despite the camera man moving around A LOT).

Thoughts? Opinions?

Samsung Galaxy Nexus camera and 1080p video samples -- Engadget

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[dr01d3tte]

Can it be used as a mobile hotspot (or is that a given nowadays)? Didn't see anything referencing that in the specs.

 

[civicsisedan]

Couple questions, sorry I dont know if they were answered this thread is hard to keep up with.

DLNA??

And removable battery? I dont really care about battery life but how many times has your phone been rooted and stuck in boot loop or froze and you had to pull the battery? Would make me think twice about rooting...

 

[bldgengineer]

I don't know if anyone has posted the camera samples from engadget, but they, in my opinion, are less than impressive.

Most of the pictures turned out unfocused. I am not sure if this is a result of the camera, or of the person taking the pictures. I want to think it is a result of the person taking the pictures, but how difficult is it to take pictures with a phone?

Although the photos were less than impressive, I thought the video they shot looked really good (despite the camera man moving around A LOT).

Thoughts? Opinions?

Samsung Galaxy Nexus camera and 1080p video samples -- Engadget


EDIT: Here is an example of one of the pictures they took:

Would LOVE to see the exif on that pic

 

[The_Chief]

Can it be used as a mobile hotspot (or is that a given nowadays)? Didn't see anything referencing that in the specs.

I can't imagine why it wouldn't... after all, Verizon wants that extra $20/month...

 

[HanSolo]

I'm sure they couldn't fit every aspect of ICS in the announcement, and here's a few highlights we didn't see:

Here are some of Dan’s favorite new Android 4.0 features not covered in the launch demo:

• Updated Settings: We’ve seriously revamped the Settings screen organization. Items are arranged much better now, and it’s easier and usually fewer actions to find what you are looking for.
• Disabling Apps: ICS adds the ability to disable an app outright. Don’t like an app that came preinstalled? Disable it! Its resources never run and its launcher icon is gone until you re-enable it. (This doesn’t free up any space — it can’t, since pre-installed apps are included in the read-only system storage. But it does put them “out of sight, out of mind.&#8221
• Camera Controls: The camera controls have been redesigned and are easier to find and mess around with.
• Improved Download Manager: It looks better and is easier to find and use, and to see and clear any downloads you might have.
• Support for Encryption for Phones: Honeycomb added full-device encryption, but ICS brings it to phones.
• Audio Effects: There’s a new audio effects API. Nuff said, really.

Googler tells us about his fav Android 4.0 features not covered in launch demo | Android and Me

Man, this thing is revolutionary!

 

[atrain311]

Well it is probably good for battery life that it is downclocked. The Rezound will surely be a good phone, and the RAZR was super impressive (almost amazingly so to me). But I would recommend the Nexus for many reasons, ICS being the biggest reason. The awesome HD superAMOLED screen and that quick-action camera are some other reasons.

That said, I don't think you can go wrong with any one of the 3 phones you are considering..

I cannot believe the internal struggle this decision is causing me, haha. Ahhhh!

 

[HanSolo]

Couple questions, sorry I dont know if they were answered this thread is hard to keep up with.

DLNA??

And removable battery? I dont really care about battery life but how many times has your phone been rooted and stuck in boot loop or froze and you had to pull the battery? Would make me think twice about rooting...

Don't know about DLNA, but the battery is removable.