***Official Galaxy Nexus Pre-Release speculation thread**

[xs301]

Maybe the bloat and extra bloat is actually a good thing if we can now get rid of it. The more bloat that they put, the more storage space they need to put into the phone!

I wish it worked that way. Look at the experia play. No extra storage space there.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Maybe the bloat and extra bloat is actually a good thing if we can now get rid of it. The more bloat that they put, the more storage space they need to put into the phone!

Yea, storage becomes the major issue at that point.

Was the Eris vanilla android? I thought it wasn't.

No, the Eris came with HTC Sense. I was referring to Verizon's specific bloat which didn't show up until the next wave of phones came out.

 

[xs301]

Yea, storage becomes the major issue at that point.



No, the Eris came with HTC Sense. I was referring to Verizon's specific bloat which didn't show up until the next wave of phones came out.

Luckily bloat is the one thing that doesn't bother me too much anymore after I ditched my G1. Now all I crave are Nexus phones as I get sick of waiting for updates due to carrier and manufacturer delays. Can't beat an os optimized on a specific hardware. Especially in a timely manner!

 

[darejer]

Was the Eris vanilla android? I thought it wasn't.

I think that MS paid them $650 million or some crazy number to love Bing long long time. It was kind of like prostitution.

 

[xs301]

I think that MS paid them $650 million or some crazy number to love Bing long long time. It was kind of like prostitution.

Hmmm. If prostitution pays that well, I have a pretty hot gf. Lol just kidding.

Hmm, rethinking! I wonder what she is worth????

 

[darejer]

I just had to watch a Bionic commercial on Hulu... and it's a new one... why???

 

[OfTheDamned]

I just had to watch a Bionic commercial on Hulu... and it's a new one... why???

Because they still have stock and they almost can't give them away now because people know other things are coming. I'm sure they will have a BOGO on that thing Black Friday.

 

[xs301]

I just had to watch a Bionic commercial on Hulu... and it's a new one... why???

Why a new commercial? I would think because if people see enough of them, the chance of selling the remaining stock increases. I believe people are dumb enough to buy anything as long as the advertising is good, and they are made to believe it's great. Apple in my opinion is great at this.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Why a new commercial? I would think because if people see enough of them, the chance of selling the remaining stock increases. I believe people are dumb enough to buy anything as long as the advertising is good, and they are made to believe it's great. Apple in my opinion is great at this.

The only problem with that theory is that the Bionic commercials were TERRIBLE.

 

[xs301]

The only problem with that theory is that the Bionic commercials were TERRIBLE.

Maybe that's why they still have stock? Seems to prove theory.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Maybe that's why they still have stock? Seems to prove theory.

Touche. That is a possibility also.

I remember seeing a guy at the Verizon store on the Bionics launch day and he was so excited about getting it. I was happy and sad for him at the same time. Knowing that bigger and better is just around the corner makes it hard when you see someone getting something that could be considered a lesser device.

Personally, I could have caved for the Bionic a couple of times. The Thunderbolt was even looking good a month ago. I just really want 4g because 3g is just so horrible in my area.

 

[xs301]

On another note, I am going to make a crazy prediction. I think with the SGN having an hd screen, and such a vastly different looking os, it will be the best selling android phone until more ICS phones are released. My thoughts are if they are displayed in a store, or someone sees an early adopter with one, it'll be hard for them not to want one when they purchase. Remember, the prediction is only good until more ICS devices hit the market. I figure when they do, there will be many hd screens. Also, most people don't know the difference between a Nexus device and other android phones. So they'll pick what is cool looking at that time.

 

[xs301]

Touche. That is a possibility also.

I remember seeing a guy at the Verizon store on the Bionics launch day and he was so excited about getting it. I was happy and sad for him at the same time. Knowing that bigger and better is just around the corner makes it hard when you see someone getting something that could be considered a lesser device.

Personally, I could have caved for the Bionic a couple of times. The Thunderbolt was even looking good a month ago. I just really want 4g because 3g is just so horrible in my area.

You must have 4g in your area? I still don't and probably won't get it for awhile. My city only has 200k people in it.

 

[xs301]

Good night all. Wait! There was only 3 of us still posting. Night otd and dare.

 

[sox08]

Touche. That is a possibility also.

I remember seeing a guy at the Verizon store on the Bionics launch day and he was so excited about getting it. I was happy and sad for him at the same time. Knowing that bigger and better is just around the corner makes it hard when you see someone getting something that could be considered a lesser device.

Personally, I could have caved for the Bionic a couple of times. The Thunderbolt was even looking good a month ago. I just really want 4g because 3g is just so horrible in my area.

u have 4g service in a spotty 3g area? really?? and i have a bionic! haha i couldnt wait for 4g any longer and now i cant wait for a good phone. haha

 

[OfTheDamned]

On another note, I am going to make a crazy prediction. I think with the SGN having an hd screen, and such a vastly different looking os, it will be the best selling android phone until more ICS phones are released. My thoughts are if they are displayed in a store, or someone sees an early adopter with one, it'll be hard for them not to want one when they purchase. Remember, the prediction is only good until more ICS devices hit the market. I figure when they do, there will be many hd screens. Also, most people don't know the difference between a Nexus device and other android phones. So they'll pick what is cool looking at that time.

I can see that. I really do hope it becomes very popular and Google finally gets the idea that these things or for the average consumer too. Many of the tech bloggers and even non-tech bloggers are really eating this thing up, especially after the iPhone 4S announcement.

You must have 4g in your area? I still don't and probably won't get it for awhile. My city only has 200k people in it.

Yes, they switched LTE on right before the Bionic landed.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Good night all. Wait! There was only 3 of us still posting. Night otd and dare.

Nite.

u have 4g service in a spotty 3g area? really?? and i have a bionic! haha i couldnt wait for 4g any longer and now i cant wait for a good phone. haha

Yea, I was really tempted by the Bionic. Mostly just for the 4G though.

The 3G is just awful here. I am lucky to get .4 Mbps in a lot of places. My home network isn't that much better. I moved from a 30 Mbps connection in Atlanta to a lucky if I get 8 mbps connection in Colorado. From what I've seen though, the 4G is really fast and the coverage is fantastic. So fingers crossed.

 

[jimbo1mcm]

Really, what does Verizon gain by being so unresponsive to releasing information about the Google Nexus? It might be embarassing when the Nexus outsells the RAZR.

 

[OfTheDamned]

Really, what does Verizon gain by being so unresponsive to releasing information about the Google Nexus? It might be embarassing when the Nexus outsells the RAZR.

Right now they gain the ability to advertise and focus on the Razr and the Rezound. Once those two are out and selling with no other phones in site (supposedly) then they can start promoting the Galaxy Nexus.

If you really think about it, for the average consumer, what does the Nexus offer? New version of Android? Ok, some may care and other won't and the reps will inform them of the updates for other phones. Bigger screen with HD? That may actually be an issue for some with smaller hands, not everyone wants a huge screen or phone. Face unlock? While some may think it is cool, others may find it gimmicky. Primarily those are the big points that a regular customer are going to see. Vanilla Android means nothing to most people.

Now think about the Razr and the Rezound. The customer sees Sense, Beats audio, free headphones and an HD screen on one. They see slim form factor, qhd screen, longer battery life, tough as nails exterior. They will also see the extra "feature" apps that each has that the Nexus does not. Also the fact that the Rezound has a "faster" processor and they both have a higher MP camera (we know it means little, but many others don't). While much of it may be smoke and mirrors it will still sell plenty of phones.

The one thing that may put the Nexus over the top on the other two is a media blitz by Samsung and Google. The phone is already all over the tech blogs which is good, but SamGoog needs to pull an Apple style media circus over the phone to really get it out there and selling like mad. I hope they do it and it comes out great, but history has shown that it typically doesn't work this way in the US anyway. Google just says, "Ok here is the phone....ta da." and Samsung says, "Hey, another phone over here. Have a nice day." Plus the iPhone 4S marketing starts around the 14th too.


Edit: Ok, Good night to all. Congrats to whomever hits post #22k this morning.

 

[brain85]

What OTD is saying is that average consumers are stupid.

 

[cusjs]

What OTD is saying is that average consumers are stupid.

I think she is saying that consumers don't look at whats under the hood and analyze the "heck" out of it like we do on here. This is why HTC came out with phones like the Rhyme. People want a phone that looks cool is trendy and does what they need it to do. Just my $.02

 

[speede541]

Really, what does Verizon gain by being so unresponsive to releasing information about the Google Nexus? It might be embarassing when the Nexus outsells the RAZR.

A prime tenant of marketing is "Control The Message." For whatever reasons they have, by not addressing the Galaxy Nexus, it doesn't exist in the eyes of most consumers.

A Razr on a pedestal near the front door, surrounded by flashy graphics and an over-the-top marketing campaign will let Verizon meet their sales goals -- lack of options (aka avoiding forcing the consumer to make decisions) increases sales.

"Buy This" sells the phone. "Pick one of these three" creates doubt, causes consumers to reconsider their purchase, "go home and think about it," research their options, wait for something better, etc.

Hell, if I only had Verizon to glean information from, I would have bought a Thunderbolt nearly a year ago. Or a Revolution. Or a Bionic...

(...instead I stuck myself with this stupid BB Storm! :/ )

 

[bradm77]

I think that MS paid them $650 million or some crazy number to love Bing long long time. It was kind of like prostitution.

Nope, no BING on the Eris. I should know, I went through a slew of defective ones back in the day. It had Google, and Sense.

 

[rexdog1888]

A prime tenant of marketing is "Control The Message." For whatever reasons they have, by not addressing the Galaxy Nexus, it doesn't exist in the eyes of most consumers.

A Razr on a pedestal near the front door, surrounded by flashy graphics and an over-the-top marketing campaign will let Verizon meet their sales goals -- lack of options (aka avoiding forcing the consumer to make decisions) increases sales.

"Buy This" sells the phone. "Pick one of these three" creates doubt, causes consumers to reconsider their purchase, "go home and think about it," research their options, wait for something better, etc.

Hell, if I only had Verizon to glean information from, I would have bought a Thunderbolt nearly a year ago. Or a Revolution. Or a Bionic...

(...instead I stuck myself with this stupid BB Storm! :/ )

As much bad press as the tbolt got its not really that bad(I have one)And I did do my research, i decided first 4g was worth getting instead of waiting for first 4g and dual core(bionic), turns out I made the right choice b/c the bionic took so long and would have left me w/out an upgrade to get the gnex

 

[bradm77]

What OTD is saying is that average consumers are stupid.

I don't know if "stupid" is completely accurate, I personally would go with "suceptible to marketing". Even in the information age we live in, I think the vast majority still does very little or no research online at all and simply walks into the store when it's time to buy a phone and buys the prettiest and shiniest toy they see on that day.

Sure, we all know that for what's important to us, the Nexus is clearly the best option of the 3 phones we have dropping soon, but to Joe Q Public? I'm betting the Razr outsells the Nexus and the Rezound COMBINED when it's all said and done.

Ultra Thin. Kevlar. Motocast. Smart Actions. And promoted/marketed to the nth degree by Verizon Wireless.

As Morty Seinfeld once said to J Peterman: "Cheap fabric and dim lighting - THAT'S how you move product"..........