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This is aggravating me a lot, so:

You CAN transfer files to your computer through USB from your Galaxy Nexus, and vice versa. USB mass storage isn't the only transfer type and people are freaking out about this "half-lie"; no, it doesn't support USB mass storage, but yes it supports MTP, another file transfer protocol.

So chill out, you can still transfer files over USB from your computer.

Myth, DEBUNKED.

It would aggravate you a lot more if you were using something other than a Windows box. There is, sorta, some Linux support -- but apparently only from one library that doesn't work very well or very fast. Myth not debunked.
 
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I call bull**** on the whole "Verizon is still testing for bugs" argument. Vodafone is testing for bugs, yes, because they officially communicated that. However, if you follow Black_Man_X on Twitter, you'll know he said this morning (in a tweet to everyone) that Verizon is NOT holding the phone back due to bugs, continued testing, etc. The phone is finalized. It's ready. It has been. Verizon is doing this out of PURE GREED. They want to push more Rezounds and RAZR's.

Sadly, it isn't going to work out that well for them, but they will push this thing back as far as they can to squeeze every dime they can out of the RAZR/Rezound. My partner is a great salesman for VZW corporate and tells me that he has several customers per day coming into the store asking for the Galaxy Nexus, and he has to tell them it's not released yet. 99% of them walk out the door, empty-handed, indicating they'll come back later for the GNex. He's tried selling RAZRs and Rezounds to them, but no one wants them (except the uneducated customers who just want whatever the so-called latest/greatest is). He said sales of RAZRs and Rezounds are bleak and, quite frankly, sad. He said they're doing worse than the Bionic, which didn't do that well, either.

I think Verizon has invested too much money into the RAZR and Rezound to cannibalize their sales with the Galaxy Nexus. Verizon knows that especially for our crowd, but also for the general public crowd, that there's no reason to buy either RAZR or Rezound when the Galaxy Nexus is out, and since Verizon pays manufacturers for a set amount of phones ahead of time and CANNOT return them to the vendor if they don't sell, they want to burn through as many as they can so they don't lose $ on this whole deal with Moto/HTC before they push the new Samsung phone.

It's that simple. It's all down to $, and Verizon does have something to lose, even if sales of the GNex are incredible. Say they were to release the Galaxy Nexus on Monday - they would likely have a decent launch, but it would mean mostly GNex sales and very few RAZR/Rezound sales. That's good on the surface, because any sale is a good sale, however, all the RAZR/Rezounds VZW paid for will continue to just sit in their warehouse, and Verizon will essentially never get anything on their investment into those phones. If they wait on selling the Galaxy Nexus, they may sell fewer of that phone, but if they have't committed to too many already, they can still sell the amount they have committed to to Samsung, while in the short-term (before the GNex launch) push as many RAZR/Rezounds onto customers as possible to burn through as many of those phones as they can. The end goal, then, is to have as few RAZR/Rezounds in their warehouses unsold as possible. They can do this by delaying the Galaxy Nexus for a little longer. People will become desperate; people who have no patience; people who are impulsive. These people will buy the RAZR or Rezound.

This is a day-by-day thing. Verizon is evaluating their numbers and sales of their devices day-by-day and won't make a decision until someone at corporate is happy enough with the sales of RAZR/Rezound to make an official move. The best thing we could do, HONESTLY, is go out and buy RAZR/Rezounds to play with, keep them in mint-condition (rent them, as Black_Man_X suggested). Black_Man_X said to do this for a REASON - if thousands of us go buy the RAZR/Rezound right now, Verizon's sales of those phones will look artificially wonderful - and it could spur them to pull the trigger on the Nexus. All we have to do is chalk up the $35 restock fee, which, in my opinion, isn't that much money. If you can't afford the $35 restock fee, then you probably can't afford the $300 Galaxy Nexus, anyway.Just my thoughts - but some things are adding up when you look at things from this view.

I want to blame it on bloatware and the Razr & Rezound.. but honestly how much money do they really make off of bloatware.. I can't imagine it really being that much.

I think most of the money they make comes from the cell phone plans not the actual purchase of the cell phone which makes you think that they'd want the Nexus out as soon as possible because they have a monopoly of it in the US and it's probably the only phone people are willing to switch providers first.

And it wouldn't really surprise me to see the Rezound or Razr hit BOGO once the Nexus drops.
 
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From the article: "On Linux and Mac it's sadly not as easy, but I have confidence that we'll see some work to make this better." -- yeah, not likely anybody's using a Linux box to do Android development with the "developer's special" GNex, eh? :mad:

but 'not as easy' does not mean 'doesn't work'

Honestly I swear it comes in spurts, I will go a month without even noticing the lack of Flash then I'll have 4-5 things I have to use my PC for because of it.

Same for me. I don't run across it often but when I do I shrug and remind myself I KNEW it didn't support flash.
 
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I actually have never owned an Android device, I will be going from a Blackberry Storm to the Nexus, my upgrade was in May and I originally was waiting for an iPhone 5 if it was 4g after the 4s was announced I did some research and decided to wait on the Nexus. After having to battery pull 4-5 times a day on my BB this phone can't come out soon enough.

Same here.....I've been eligible to upgrade since the end of January. I was originally going to get an iPhone 4, but then I decided to wait until the iPhone 5 came out in the Spring.....then Fall. When the new phone ended up being a 4S with no 4G I started looking at alternatives and found out about the Nexus. For a long time I have loved my blackberry, but just recently I have come to realize that was primarily due to ignorance. There are so many features available on newer phones that I just don't have even though I pay just as much for my data plan (grandfathered unlimited) as everyone else. I don't even have a touch screen. Its my B-Day today and I'm very very tempted to go to Verizon and pick up a Rezound to rent until the Nexus finally comes out. I've debated waiting until Monday to do this, but I'm really not very optimistic any more that it will be released anytime soon.
 
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OK...

Just had a chat with online CSR. She knew nothing of the GN, release date, or, the end of the DD promo. I expressed that VZW was making it very difficult for me to give them my money. The highlight was this...

me: If I order online, can I return to a local store when the other phone is released, or, would i have to ship things back and forth?
vzw: Yes you sure can go in store. Or Mail it back in.
me: OK. Thank you for your help. I am going to have to think about it. It still feels unethical to me to buy something that I know I am going to return.
vzw: It's completely okay to do it.

I used the term "rental" prior to all of this as well and, apparently they do not care.

So, come Monday, if there is no news, I will very likely be ordering the Rezound to play with until I get my Nexus. The first part of the quoted chat is absolutely true, I do feel unethical about it, but, I am leaving an unlimited data plan with AT&T and the DD Promo is too valuable for me to pass up if it is indeed ending on BF.

(I think I used every possible abbreviation in there... did I miss any BBs?)
 
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same here.....i've been eligible to upgrade since the end of january. I was originally going to get an iphone 4, but then i decided to wait until the iphone 5 came out in the spring.....then fall. When the new phone ended up being a 4s with no 4g i started looking at alternatives and found out about the nexus. For a long time i have loved my blackberry, but just recently i have come to realize that was primarily due to ignorance. There are so many features available on newer phones that i just don't have even though i pay just as much for my data plan (grandfathered unlimited) as everyone else. I don't even have a touch screen. Its my b-day today and i'm very very tempted to go to verizon and pick up a rezound to rent until the nexus finally comes out. I've debated waiting until monday to do this, but i'm really not very optimistic any more that it will be released anytime soon.


happy birthday!!!!!!!
 
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OK...

Just had a chat with online CSR. She knew nothing of the GN, release date, or, the end of the DD promo. I expressed that VZW was making it very difficult for me to give them my money. The highlight was this...



I used the term "rental" prior to all of this as well and, apparently they do not care.

So, come Monday, if there is no news, I will very likely be ordering the Rezound to play with until I get my GN. The first part of the quoted chat is absolutely true, I do feel unethical about it, but, I am leaving an unlimited data plan with AT&T and the DD Promo is too valuable for me to pass up if it is indeed ending on BF.

(I think I used every possible abbreviation in there... did I miss any BBs?)

LOL. I fixed the only one I saw.
 
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To be clear, I wasn't saying cut back on the OT posts and keep this thread on topic. I was saying let's try to cut back on the posts that are obviously there only to encourage others to post superfluously.. just to bump the # of replies for these milestones.

Post OT all you want, just wanted people to remember this isn't the "Let's count to a million!" thread.

:)

The reason I said the post count was going to be cut down was because half of the "milestone posts" were the mods saying the lurkers should come out of their hiding holes and post 1 post an hour to reach the Dinc thread. I consider that the "milestone post" you were referring to. If that isn't what you mean, then I get it, you mean just the posts where people say "did I get it?" and "40k?"

But I personally think you may have scared some of the lurkers with that post.
 
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OK...

Just had a chat with online CSR. She knew nothing of the GN, release date, or, the end of the DD promo. I expressed that VZW was making it very difficult for me to give them my money. The highlight was this...



I used the term "rental" prior to all of this as well and, apparently they do not care.

So, come Monday, if there is no news, I will very likely be ordering the Rezound to play with until I get my Nexus. The first part of the quoted chat is absolutely true, I do feel unethical about it, but, I am leaving an unlimited data plan with AT&T and the DD Promo is too valuable for me to pass up if it is indeed ending on BF.

(I think I used every possible abbreviation in there... did I miss any BBs?)

The online CSR agent could care less about you returning your RAZR after a short while because that's not how they make their salary. Retail store employees will be pissed, though, because every time someone returns a phone they get a bad customer satisfaction report, etc. Plus, they're commission-based so they wouldn't get paid fully if they sold you a phone that you ended up returning.
 
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but 'not as easy' does not mean 'doesn't work'
No, but slow and unreliable could easily make something effectively unusable. If you're copying files around, you wouldn't want to have to guess whether they actually got transferred.

Also if the function is only provided by one library (perhaps supported by a single developer), you may be left high and dry if it breaks under some new Linux version. It's said that in open source anybody can pick up the pieces of abandonware, but in practice it often doesn't happen.
 
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No, but slow and unreliable could easily make something effectively unusable. If you're copying files around, you wouldn't want to have to guess whether they actually got transferred.

Also if the function is only provided by one library (perhaps supported by a single developer), you may be left high and dry if it breaks under some new Linux version. It's said that in open source anybody can pick up the pieces of abandonware, but in practice it often doesn't happen.

Point well made. Thank you.
 
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The online CSR agent could care less about you returning your RAZR after a short while because that's not how they make their salary. Retail store employees will be pissed, though, because every time someone returns a phone they get a bad customer satisfaction report, etc. Plus, they're commission-based so they wouldn't get paid fully if they sold you a phone that you ended up returning.

But, I'd be ordering online (corporate discount), so, the store shouldn't get hurt by someone returning an online order... except for not getting to count the sale of the GN to me, but, I wouldn't be buying in store anyway, so, they aren't going to get commission off of me either way.
 
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Okay folks, I deleted a few post debating post count posts. If anyone has an issue with a post, report it and the mods will look at it.

The debate over it has been settled and we're not going to rehash it. Just report it, please, rehashing it will start fights and lead to higher post counts. ;)
 
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Verizon knows that especially for our crowd, but also for the general public crowd, that there's no reason to buy either RAZR or Rezound when the Galaxy Nexus is out....

Well actually there is. If you believe that Motorola makes better hardware than Samsung and the Razr will have ICS down the road, then there is a reason right there.

I truly believe Motorola does make better hardware. I've never been impressed with my Samungs, either 3G or 4G. I've never been unimpressed with my Motorolas from a hardware standpoint.

As I've said, if the Razr had ICS today, I wouldn't even be considering another Samsung.
 
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