Grrr...Internal Memory dilemma

[killtheaquitted]

Ok, I love my hero, so please don't read this post as one of those whiny rants. I would love any feedback/suggestions for those of you who are in a similar situation as me. I have owned my hero since september, and for the past month I have been riding the edge of my internal memory being completely full. I have 104 apps (including stock) totalling 144mb of my 159mb available. I am at the point that I can't update any apps (increases their size) and if I want a new app, I have to go through my phone and delete ones I think I can live without. I clear my caches regularly and I am at the point where I am just maxed out. If I get too close to the limit, my phone gets extremely laggy, and goes crazy at reboot and everything force closes until I delete some apps and reboot (that is a whole different issue). Is anyone facing this issue and if so, how do you deal with it? Thanks!

P.S. Please no "just root it" responses. I don't want to root my phone even though I know it lets me install to the SD card. The "why do you need so many apps" response is silly too. I need as many as I need. From what I understand the epic 2.1 update resolves this, but I need some help holding on until then.

 

[mbell75]

Ok, I love my hero, so please don't read this post as one of those whiny rants. I would love any feedback/suggestions for those of you who are in a similar situation as me. I have owned my hero since september, and for the past month I have been riding the edge of my internal memory being completely full. I have 104 apps (including stock) totalling 144mb of my 159mb available. I am at the point that I can't update any apps (increases their size) and if I want a new app, I have to go through my phone and delete ones I think I can live without. I clear my caches regularly and I am at the point where I am just maxed out. If I get too close to the limit, my phone gets extremely laggy, and goes crazy at reboot and everything force closes until I delete some apps and reboot (that is a whole different issue). Is anyone facing this issue and if so, how do you deal with it? Thanks!

P.S. Please no "just root it" responses. I don't want to root my phone even though I know it lets me install to the SD card. The "why do you need so many apps" response is silly too. I need as many as I need. From what I understand the epic 2.1 update resolves this, but I need some help holding on until then.

You DO know about the 70 app limit right? I am surprised your phone works at all with that many.

 

[killtheaquitted]

You DO know about the 70 app limit right? I am surprised your phone works at all with that many.

I thought that was more of a rumor/theory than a fact.

 

[i VTAK]

What can anybody tell you? The phone only has so much memory, you can't pull more out of the air. I won't root either so I don't know if you can put apps on your SD card after that but if you can, your only options are to root or delete some apps.

 

[treborcj]

Ok, I love my hero, so please don't read this post as one of those whiny rants. I would love any feedback/suggestions for those of you who are in a similar situation as me. I have owned my hero since september, and for the past month I have been riding the edge of my internal memory being completely full. I have 104 apps (including stock) totalling 144mb of my 159mb available. I am at the point that I can't update any apps (increases their size) and if I want a new app, I have to go through my phone and delete ones I think I can live without. I clear my caches regularly and I am at the point where I am just maxed out. If I get too close to the limit, my phone gets extremely laggy, and goes crazy at reboot and everything force closes until I delete some apps and reboot (that is a whole different issue). Is anyone facing this issue and if so, how do you deal with it? Thanks!

P.S. Please no "just root it" responses. I don't want to root my phone even though I know it lets me install to the SD card. The "why do you need so many apps" response is silly too. I need as many as I need. From what I understand the epic 2.1 update resolves this, but I need some help holding on until then.

So you want a solution to your problem but you don't want the known solutions to your problem. I think everyone would like to help you but you don't seem to want help.

If you can increase your internal memory then I would do that, but if you could or would do that , they why not root. I know you think you need every app on your phone but you don't. Do you realize that, no. Can you just backup any apps on your sd card and only install it on the rare instance that you need it, yes, would you do it, no.

Eventual you are gonna run out of space. You just can't install an infinite amount of apps and expect it to work. Every phone has a limit.

I don't know how to help you if you won't accept the known solutions.

 

[killtheaquitted]

Sorry guys, I may have asked my question wrong. I guess I wanted to know how many other people are dealing with this issue of maxing out their memory. Part of my frustration is that I have 6gb of free space sitting there on my SD card and I am pulling my hair out getting my app amount under 140mb

 

[treborcj]

Nope, I got your question spot on. How I deal with it....I don't put that many apps on the phone.

 

[mbell75]

Sorry guys, I may have asked my question wrong. I guess I wanted to know how many other people are dealing with this issue of maxing out their memory. Part of my frustration is that I have 6gb of free space sitting there on my SD card and I am pulling my hair out getting my app amount under 140mb

Its simple, you have 3 choices.

1) Buy a new phone with more memory
2) Root your Hero
3) Delete some apps

 

[zx12richard]

Like I told my girlfriend its a phone not a pc.

 

[dvdqnoc]

Does internal memory effect phone lag? Even if you dont ever open some of the apps you have installed on the phone?

 

[mysticmead]

Sorry guys, I may have asked my question wrong. I guess I wanted to know how many other people are dealing with this issue of maxing out their memory. Part of my frustration is that I have 6gb of free space sitting there on my SD card and I am pulling my hair out getting my app amount under 140mb

Its simple, you have 3 choices.

1) Buy a new phone with more memory
2) Root your Hero
3) Delete some apps

the only possible answers you can get are right there...

at this time (even in 2.1) you cannot install apps to SD.. until Google gets it fixed to prevent app piracy, then that's the way it'll be.. unless you root and use apps2sd but you don't want to root...

that leaves you with the other 2 choices.. I would guess that since you still have the Hero, you don't want another phone.... even if you did get a new phone, it would run into the same problems if it's an android phone.

that leaves option 3... remove the apps that you rarely use..

 

[SilHero]

to answer your question, yes i suffer from this same problem....

my name is Silhero, and i have an app addiction.

Before i read about the "70 app limit" my phone died and when i restarted i got a lot of FC errors and it didnt let me make a phone call, we long story short i took it to sprint n they did a factory reset....well this happened twice b4 i came across the "70 app limt" thread.

Now i just dl the apps i "need" *scratches neck* and unistall all the trials and meaningless apps....

Now ask yourself this do u need a 2000+ drink mixer in your back pocket? sure it would b nice, but how long would it actually take for u to dl it when u need it then uninstall after your done playing "Cocktail"?

 

[Stryf3]

I don't understand why the installable app space is so low. I also have a TMO MyTouch 3g and it shows 295MB of space to install apps versus my Hero's 159MB

 

[DrkDragon]

One other thing to try is to clear the cache in your phone.

Go to Menu>Settings>Applications>Manage Applications> (let the list completely load up first)>Menu>sort by size> select each application and clear the cache is applicable.

I didn't have that many appls but was at 132MB of 159MB and was wondering why the heck that was. I cleared my cache and my memory dropped down to 79MB of 159MB. There was a lot of Memory being used by the browser and some of my apps.

 

[willy900wonka]

IIRC non rooted phones can install aps from the top level directory/non-folder of sdcard. So load your apps into sdcard as "foo".apk then use a filemanager to click on them. The appsinstaller will kick in and install the apk. Use the menu -manage application to uninstall when done. Or manually swap apps as needed. The source should remain in the sdcard for use later.

Sort of weird but it carries the apk with you. Not pc to use the R word.

 

[dmm5157]

IIRC non rooted phones can install aps from the top level directory/non-folder of sdcard. So load your apps into sdcard as "foo".apk then use a filemanager to click on them. The appsinstaller will kick in and install the apk. Use the menu -manage application to uninstall when done. Or manually swap apps as needed. The source should remain in the sdcard for use later.

Sort of weird but it carries the apk with you. Not pc to use the R word.

AppManager does a pretty good job of backing up your apps and allowing you install them from your SD card. I use it quite a bit, so I don't have to re-download my apps when I uninstall them. They just sit on my memory card until I need them.

 

[CLoudNYNE]

I have been dealing with the 70 app limit for a couple months now and have gotten used to it, but a couple weeks ago my hero started to tell me that it was running low on internal memory. This hasn't been much of a problem performance wise, but today it begun not letting me view new sms messages, "Phone memory is full" is displayed instead. I've been waiting 30 minutes for my app manager to finish loading. I can't wait to get the HTC EVO.

 

[mkhopper]

I thought that was more of a rumor/theory than a fact.

Oh no, it's a pretty proven fact at this point.
I've run into it at least 3 times now and as we speak I'm testing fate again because my app count has crept back up into the 80s.

 

[tdieckman]

Oh no, it's a pretty proven fact at this point.
I've run into it at least 3 times now and as we speak I'm testing fate again because my app count has crept back up into the 80s.

And the stock apps don't count towards the 70 app limit. That's why you'll find some people disputing the limit.

 

[toomuchgame441]

I have about 2010 apps, no major performance issues but I do notice some performance issues here and there. Matter of fact, I might have to let one more go

 

[jersey221]

i dont see how you have that many apps that you actually use on a daily basis...

im rooted but im not using apps2sd and i only download apps i use frequently if i have a app thats sat there for more than a week i uninstall it cause theres no need for it