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Help Look at this bizarre battery "drop"

Tim K

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Nov 2, 2009
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I forget what app I had been using, but when I closed it, it appeared to cause a reboot - but that's not the point. When my phone booted back up, the 'reported battery level" went from about 65% to 50%. Very strange and adds more credence to the possibility that "battery issues" could actually be reporting issues.

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I've seen that a few times on my phone. Reboot and there's a big gap in battery percentage. Some how, I'm sure that the battery is just not able to report the remaining capacity accurately all the time. But regardless of what is reported to the phone, the battery still has the same capacity left in it. So the battery may have more life left in it than it reported there and it will continue to deplete slower or it may report it high and deplete it (seemingly) faster. I've seen several times too where if I let my phone idle for a bit, the percentage will actually rise (like it was charging, but it wasn't).
 
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I've seen that a few times on my phone. Reboot and there's a big gap in battery percentage. Some how, I'm sure that the battery is just not able to report the remaining capacity accurately all the time. But regardless of what is reported to the phone, the battery still has the same capacity left in it. So the battery may have more life left in it than it reported there and it will continue to deplete slower or it may report it high and deplete it (seemingly) faster. I've seen several times too where if I let my phone idle for a bit, the percentage will actually rise (like it was charging, but it wasn't).

The battery never reports how much is left. The phone only monitors the battery voltage and takes a guess as to how much capacity is left based on battery profiles.

Not directed at you, but there is a very common misconception that batteries tell devices how much juice is left. It's actually just a tuned guess as to how much capacity is remaining. There's lots of factors that I won't go into here, but it gets very complex.

The drop in reporting may very well be the reboot, where the device has to run the screen, processor and memory at full capacity during the boot sequence. This drains the battery, or at least pulls the voltage down enough so the built in voltage curves guess there was a drop.
 
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The battery never reports how much is left. The phone only monitors the battery voltage and takes a guess as to how much capacity is left based on battery profiles.

Not directed at you, but there is a very common misconception that batteries tell devices how much juice is left. It's actually just a tuned guess as to how much capacity is remaining. There's lots of factors that I won't go into here, but it gets very complex.

The drop in reporting may very well be the reboot, where the device has to run the screen, processor and memory at full capacity during the boot sequence. This drains the battery, or at least pulls the voltage down enough so the built in voltage curves guess there was a drop.

Very good points. But still it's weird that reboot alone will cause such a big drop like OP. Rebooting seems to cost about 1~2% on battery at most. And I also experienced sudden big jump on battery like +20% once when rebooted while recharging. I think battery reporting on ICS has some bug to be fixed.
 
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Very good points. But still it's weird that reboot alone will cause such a big drop like OP. Rebooting seems to cost about 1~2% on battery at most. And I also experienced sudden big jump on battery like +20% once when rebooted while recharging. I think battery reporting on ICS has some bug to be fixed.

Yeah, I tend to think its more of a phantom reporting. Most likely the battery isn't dropping like that, just that it's being reported that way. Perhaps there's some hysterisis of the measurements that's causing the fluke.
 
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