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Recently I moved. I picked the apartment I'm in because she would allow a pit bull. She has some herself. When I found one I wanted she called her insurance to double check and they said no. She was given a list of around 7 dogs that aren't allowed and they specifically said pit bull. The first thing that came to mind was, okay I'll just get a staffordshire terrier or american bull dog mix unknown - both pretty much pit bulls. I just needed paper work not to say pit bull. I let it go for a couple weeks. I called her back and asked about staffordshire terrier. She had to look it up and see what it was. Answer...no. I can't get anything that looks like a pit bull.

So disappointed. I really wish she would just change her insurance to State Farm. It would be a lot easier if I could just go get a house. Even with what I get paid, that, isn't an option right now.

Even with a house, you'll find that there are a lot of insurance carriers that utilize a list of breeds that will preclude you from purchasing insurance coverage, and pit bulls or anything like them will be at the tops of all their lists. In fact, most of the standard carriers do that. Many of those that don't probably exclude claims arising from injuries or damage caused by animals.
 
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Even with a house, you'll find that there are a lot of insurance carriers that utilize a list of breeds that will preclude you from purchasing insurance coverage, and pit bulls or anything like them will be at the tops of all their lists. In fact, most of the standard carriers do that. Many of those that don't probably exclude claims arising from injuries or damage caused by animals.

State Farm is the easiest. They'll ask if your dog has ever bitten anyone and/or if it is trained to protect.
 
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Hey all. What I am about to say is possibly offensive to sports fans so un hide at your own risk

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I think pro sports are overrated over hyped BS businesses. No one is worth the amount of money they are being paid and quite frankly I don't even think it is news worthy.

I love how fox news broke into judge Judy to say something about manning. Great, now my day is complete :rolleyes:

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Hey all. What I am about to say is possibly offensive to sports fans so un hide at your own risk

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I think pro sports are overrated over hyped BS businesses. No one is worth the amount of money they are being paid and quite frankly I don't even think it is news worthy.

I love how fox news broke into judge Judy to say something about manning. Great, now my day is complete :rolleyes:

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Although I don't understand reality or court shows either.
 
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Hey all. What I am about to say is possibly offensive to sports fans so un hide at your own risk

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I think pro sports are overrated over hyped BS businesses. No one is worth the amount of money they are being paid and quite frankly I don't even think it is news worthy.

I love how fox news broke into judge Judy to say something about manning. Great, now my day is complete :rolleyes:

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I agree with the overpaid part.:D

At least with pro sports the folks generating all the revenue are rewarded for putting their bodies on the line.

Now back you our regularly scheduled lighthearted conversations.:)
 
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Recently I moved. I picked the apartment I'm in because she would allow a pit bull. She has some herself. When I found one I wanted she called her insurance to double check and they said no. She was given a list of around 7 dogs that aren't allowed and they specifically said pit bull. The first thing that came to mind was, okay I'll just get a staffordshire terrier or american bull dog mix unknown - both pretty much pit bulls. I just needed paper work not to say pit bull. I let it go for a couple weeks. I called her back and asked about staffordshire terrier. She had to look it up and see what it was. Answer...no. I can't get anything that looks like a pit bull.

So disappointed. I really wish she would just change her insurance to State Farm. It would be a lot easier if I could just go get a house. Even with what I get paid, that, isn't an option right now.

I love all dogs, regardless of breed, creed, sex, or color. I've known some very mean Pits and I've known some who make a golden retriever look like Cujo.

But still, it's hard to argue against the impression people have about Pits. I do think that the particular breed has a tendency to be overly aggressive, just like a German Shepherd has a tendency to nip at heels and a Greyhound has a tendency to sprint after a rabbit like a cheetah. Properly socialized and trained, it's as sweet as anything else. But few people take the proper time and effort to actually socialize and train it properly.

Get rid of the dog killer in Philly and send Tebow there.

I still can't watch that sadistic piece of trash.

Hey all. What I am about to say is possibly offensive to sports fans so un hide at your own risk

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I think pro sports are overrated over hyped BS businesses. No one is worth the amount of money they are being paid and quite frankly I don't even think it is news worthy.

I love how fox news broke into judge Judy to say something about manning. Great, now my day is complete :rolleyes:

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Lol. If the world was fair, [some] teachers, policemen, firefighters, and veterinarians would all be filthy rich. But it's not.

I'm surprised children aren't listed in the same manner, with as much damage as they have done to the house ;)

Here, here! Compare my dogs' most destructive tendencies with those of the average teenager, and I don't think the leashes are on the right creatures.
 
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Yikes, so much hate on the Pats. Jealous anyone?
Let's try March Madness talk. I never filled out a bracket but it seems like everyone's is pretty much destroyed. Pissed about UNCs injuries. Didn't think they'd make it all the way but now it's looking quite hard. Ohio State and Kentucky are definitely looking the best at this point.
Thoughts?
 
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I love all dogs, regardless of breed, creed, sex, or color. I've known some very mean Pits and I've known some who make a golden retriever look like Cujo.

But still, it's hard to argue against the impression people have about Pits. I do think that the particular breed has a tendency to be overly aggressive, just like a German Shepherd has a tendency to nip at heels and a Greyhound has a tendency to sprint after a rabbit like a cheetah. Properly socialized and trained, it's as sweet as anything else. But few people take the proper time and effort to actually socialize and train it properly.
Your rights Hans! Few people take the time to socialize and train any breed, not just the Pits. We have a little guy, 14 years old and a big 4 lbs. Even he needed good training. :)
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I have a pit who came from the shelter at 2 years old. She's not especially well trained, in fact she has no manners at all, but the only danger she poses is that she might accidentally headbutt you in her enthusiasm. Well, and she has no idea that pawing you in the face might hurt.

It's not all training, and pits don't have a predeliction towards violence. For a hundred years they were known as nanny dogs, considered the safest breed and even a national symbol. As for their current (undeserved) reputation - do your research before making sweeping generalizations. They aren't the first breed to be suddenly considered dangerous. Rottweilers, Dobermans, German Shepherds, even Bloodhounds if you go back far enough, were considered the demon dogs at one point.

Places that enact breed specific legislation end up with more dog bites over all, after the first year or so.

Labs bite proportionally more often than pits do. (there are more pits, so the numbers are higher, but the ratio of labs that bite vs labs owned is higher).

Edit: Sorry if this reads a little heavy handed/anvilicious. I'm half asleep, and this whole "pits are dangerous" thing is kind of my berserk button.
 
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Morning everyone!
We're having our first thunderstorm of the year. It's been such a wild couple weeks of weather and I'm just not ready for it.

I love weather, it fascinates me for whatever reason. Once my kids grow up I think I will become a spotter for the weather service. I also have near the top of my wish list a high quality weather station. Obviously being in a coastal state, hurricanes get my attention the most. But I also will sit on my front porch as a thunderstorm goes through.
 
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I have a pit who came from the shelter at 2 years old. She's not especially well trained, in fact she has no manners at all, but the only danger she poses is that she might accidentally headbutt you in her enthusiasm. Well, and she has no idea that pawing you in the face might hurt.

It's not all training, and pits don't have a predeliction towards violence. For a hundred years they were known as nanny dogs, considered the safest breed and even a national symbol. As for their current (undeserved) reputation - do your research before making sweeping generalizations. They aren't the first breed to be suddenly considered dangerous. Rottweilers, Dobermans, German Shepherds, even Bloodhounds if you go back far enough, were considered the demon dogs at one point.

Places that enact breed specific legislation end up with more dog bites over all, after the first year or so.

Labs bite proportionally more often than pits do. (there are more pits, so the numbers are higher, but the ratio of labs that bite vs labs owned is higher).

Edit: Sorry if this reads a little heavy handed/anvilicious. I'm half asleep, and this whole "pits are dangerous" thing is kind of my berserk button.
I thought it was a great informational read. Its kind of funny that my favorite breeds are also considered the most dangerous. (Not keen on dobermans but its an irrational fear since one put a hole in my hand one time)

Morning everyone!
We're having our first thunderstorm of the year. It's been such a wild couple weeks of weather and I'm just not ready for it.
Sorry you're not enjoying it.
I love weather, it fascinates me for whatever reason. Once my kids grow up I think I will become a spotter for the weather service. I also have near the top of my wish list a high quality weather station. Obviously being in a coastal state, hurricanes get my attention the most. But I also will sit on my front porch as a thunderstorm goes through.
I'm with you on the storms. Love them. My dream house includes a wraparound porch - a big part of that being so I can watch storms. I don't have the cojones for storm chasing though.
 
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Anyone with fun hurricane memories?
Guess my only one was when Bob hit MA in 91. I was still young but I remember my dad wanting to take all us kids out in the neighborhood to see the damage. My mom was furious with him since there was so much destruction. We lost power for the week and drove to my grandparents house in upstate NY. Fun times. He told me stories about Gloria in the 80s, but I was still an infant at the time.

Interesting side note from Wikipedia:
President George H. W. Bush, staying at his home in Kennebunkport, Maine, evacuated to Pease Air Force Base in New Hampshire. To avoid possible risks by using helicopter, he drove by motorcade to the base. During this time, portions of Interstate 95 were closed to allow him direct access to the Air Force base; however, this created many miles of backup as thousands of residents moved inland.
 
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Good morning everyone. I have a few hurricane memories, but being only 23 years old we haven't had anything major (luckily) in the past few years that I can remember being really bad.

BTW got my Capta in yesterday and this thing is amazing. It's much smaller than I thought it would be, BUT it works so well that I trusted my GNex upside down on the gorilla pod dangling over my kitchen floor. Check out some pictures below!







 
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Anyone with fun hurricane memories?
Guess my only one was when Bob hit MA in 91. I was still young but I remember my dad wanting to take all us kids out in the neighborhood to see the damage. My mom was furious with him since there was so much destruction. We lost power for the week and drove to my grandparents house in upstate NY. Fun times. He told me stories about Gloria in the 80s, but I was still an infant at the time.

No "fun" hurricane memories, when you live on the coast a hurricane means securing everything you can, boarding up, battening down, and eventually evacuating and then waiting and hoping that it all resembles what you left when you come back. Worst one here in recent years was Floyd in 1999, When we returned to the island, it looked like a war zone, houses in the middle of the street, some hanging on their stilts and some just gone; washed out to sea. Our roof was lifted up, but then dropped back in place. In 2004, Hurricane Charley gave us an extra porch, our neighbors through our roof. Then in 08, we got new siding courtesy of Hanna. You get a lot of warning with Hurricanes and people get complacent and don't leave when they should. This years Irene was a good example, everyone talked about it all the days leading up to it's landfall. The conversation is all about if you are staying or leaving. Irene was strong enough that most left, then she turned at the last minute and missed us convincing many people they made a mistake to leave and adding to complacency. Not a good thing. Once the winds reach a certain level, the bridges close and you have to stay. Its easy to get sucked into the game of should we stay or go, so we have created a stop loss of sorts, winds and category reach a certain level and trajectory is near us, we leave. It is simply not worth the risk.
 
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So our youngest doggie was throwing up blood last night and we took her to the vet's immediately. She had been puking up bile a few times during the day, but it seemed to go away. Throughout all of it, she never was lethargic or grumpy; just her usual cheerful and smiley self. We figured she probably had a bug and it went away. But then she puked up a lot. No food, just bile and quite a bit of blood, which freaked us out of course.

The vet took a look and a stool sample (poor thing; they slid a long straw-like scooper up her butt) and turns out she has a massive amount of particularly nasty bacteria. We think she got it from some goose poop (they are running wild lately). Our complex also has large grounds where all the owners walk their dogs and don't bother to pick up after them (pigs). So who knows where it came from.

Now she's on antibiotics and a couple of other meds. We are slipping the antibiotics in her favorite no-no food, Fancy Feast (yes, for cats).

Damn geese. And idiot dog owners.

And as far as the Pit Bull discussion, not to start a flame war of course (ah, the good old days!). . .But I didn't mean to offend anyone. I just think that I've never heard of a golden retriever mauling a small child or killing one, while I've heard of several Pit-related deaths. Here in Chicago there was a major story about a month ago where a jogger was running through a park, was attacked by two loose Pits, and lost a leg. If it had been two golden retrievers which have very strong jaws, size, and strong teeth, I doubt the outcome would have been the same. It's a common fact that many breeders emphasize certain characteristics and minimize others, and you can tell after a few generations. And many breeders over the last few decades have bred Pits and other dogs for being aggressive. Unfortunately, dog fighting is still extremely popular (at least in Chicago), and those aggressive strains will go out into the general population, and you have your problem.

I'm not singling out Pits as bad dogs; they're not. I just think that certain breeds have aggressive characteristics and people don't know how to train and/or socialize, and so it causes problems. In all honesty, I have a Lhasa Apso (look like little prissy dogs) who is very, very aggressive (and they are known for being a bit unfriendly as a breed). When our Shih-tzu was a new puppy in our home, the lhasa almost bit her eye out. She attacked my niece, who was just a 3 year old trying to give her a hug, and made a gash in her nose. If we walk her outside, I have to be extra vigilant when there are other dogs around because she will attack. One time some idiot owner was walking his Pug without a leash outside, and it came over to our Lhasa to say hello, and my dog went immediately for her throat.

Whose fault is it? Mine, ultimately. I didn't socialize her enough when she was a puppy, with children and other dogs. Many Pit owners make the same mistake. And when you have a breed that is not as docile as a teacup Chihuahua (like Pits and yes, Lhasa Apsos), then you have more probability for a problem than if you have a Lab.
 
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Anyone with fun hurricane memories?
Guess my only one was when Bob hit MA in 91. I was still young but I remember my dad wanting to take all us kids out in the neighborhood to see the damage. My mom was furious with him since there was so much destruction. We lost power for the week and drove to my grandparents house in upstate NY. Fun times. He told me stories about Gloria in the 80s, but I was still an infant at the time.

Went through Katrina a few years back...that was interesting. I'm about 200-250 miles inland but it was still a Category 1 or 2 when we started getting squall lines. Had a few other that were well broken up by the time they reached us but nothing bad.
 
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