Help Should we worry about the 800mhz/1900mhz debacle?

[Sauske]

Well in my current area I get excellent 3G signal! And I get one bar of 4G (WiMax) and like you explained EarlyMon when I move the signal goes up! I'm talking about in my house!

 

[EarlyMon]

There's a fairly new tower electronics upgrade package that Sprint is going to. So, I expect LTE to be part of that modernization, rather than the same build-out that Clear was about. That should play in our favor, both in 3G and LTE.

 

[viber]

A person would have to be on drugs to think that Sprint will actually be able to do multiband LTE in the lifecycle of the new Evo. They haven't even got 1900 LTE started yet and iDen is still the nuisance cousin that won't go away.

 

[BenChase7]

A person would have to be on drugs to think that Sprint will actually be able to do multiband LTE in the lifecycle of the new Evo. They haven't even got 1900 LTE started yet and iDen is still the nuisance cousin that won't go away.

you should elaborate before accusing people of "being on drugs." Furthermore, they (Sprint) certainly do have 1900 LTE started... in fact, its up and running in many places across the country.

Seriously, what are you talking about when you say, "They haven't even got 1900 LTE started yet?"

You sound terribly confused!

 

[viber]

you should elaborate before accusing people of "being on drugs." Furthermore, they (Sprint) certainly do have 1900 LTE started... in fact, its up and running in many places across the country.

Seriously, what are you talking about when you say, "They haven't even got 1900 LTE started yet?"

You sound terribly confused!

Let me know when the towers actually are lit for actual use by several million subscribers a day.

Sprint has a million miles to run before even being in the position to consider taking one step in the area of multiband LTE.

Anyone fence sitting for 800mhz in the short term is wasting their time. May as well be waiting for a unicorn. Figure 2015 at the earliest.

 

[dan330]

unicorns will be available starting in 2015!!!

my daughter will love this... where do i preorder?

 

[tflb]

I'm no techie but I live close to the Sprint campus and know some people that work there and are working on Network Vision and I believe it won't really matter what radio's are in your phone, when you hit a tower NV will be trunked through all spectrums and you will be given the best signal available ( see maps above).They are changing the way phones work today and switching it to the towers vs the phone. At least that's the way I perceive it. If this is the case the EVO won't be obsolete and the competition will be scrambling to play catch up for a long time.

 

[EarlyMon]

Handoff from cdma to lte and vice versa is part of upside of lte, true enough.

But the Evo won't do lte.

I agree with you though, as the Evo is dual frequency CDMA, I don't think that it will be obsolete for some time, unless we split hairs over the meaning of obsolete.

 

[NeoteriX]

A person would have to be on drugs to think that Sprint will actually be able to do multiband LTE in the lifecycle of the new Evo. They haven't even got 1900 LTE started yet and iDen is still the nuisance cousin that won't go away.

you should elaborate before accusing people of "being on drugs." Furthermore, they (Sprint) certainly do have 1900 LTE started... in fact, its up and running in many places across the country.

Seriously, what are you talking about when you say, "They haven't even got 1900 LTE started yet?"

You sound terribly confused!

This. What Viber said. Whether Sprint already has it's 1900 band LTE up and running in a handful of test markets is of little consequence to how quickly they can reprovision the 800 iDEN network over to LTE.

Anyone who bought the original Evo 4G and watched the rollout of WiMAX knows that these things just take a significant amount of time (I'm in the largest market in the US, the NYC area and it took 5 months from the launch of the Evo 4G to finally get the green light in NYC, and then several more months before I began to see coverage in my office and apartment).

Since there is already FCC approval for LTE over the 1900 airspace, Sprint will likely begin coverage there. To reprovision the 800 iDEN to wideband/LTE requires more than just flipping a switch -- FCC approval is necessary (I think they are just beginning to get it: FCC ready to give Sprint official go ahead on SMR 800 MHz wideband operation - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates ), and so Viber is spot on that for the projected lifespan of the LTEvo 4G (two years), I predict it will likely only be halfway through if not almost all the way through the lifespan of the phone before the 800 Mhz comes live and the lack of an 800 Mhz LTE radio becomes a liability for the phone.

 

[finndo77]

Unless Sprint goes bankrupt from rolling out too many technologies and making iPhone sales guarantees to Apple...

It would be in their best interest to not touch the 1900 and to "rent" that frequency to someone else, so they can get some more cash in.

But, my guess is they plan to use the 1900 for digital voice in the long run so eL TEvo well remain useful for a very long time. The 800 will be for 4g data, since "lower frequencies carry less data in the same amount of time" that will allow for simultaneous 4g data and digital voice calls as 800 cannot handle both

 

[EarlyMon]

I still insist that the Sprint statements say that they're using the 800 MHz band, formerly for iDEN, to increase their 3G cdma coverage.

They used the statement, Network Vision, and blogs jumped to conclusions. Look at their map for Network Vision coverage, it pretty much says it all.

 

[Sauske]

I still insist that the Sprint statements say that they're using the 800 MHz band, formerly for iDEN, to increase their 3G cdma coverage.

They used the statement, Network Vision, and blogs jumped to conclusions. Look at their map for Network Vision coverage, it pretty much says it all.

Agreed!

 

[Rush]

I'm learning a lot from you guys.. I just love when we can learn to "agree on being disagreeable."

So, with all these different frequencies being explained - there's no change of mind to still wanting the EVO 4G LTE...right?

 

[EarlyMon]

I'm learning a lot from you guys.. I just love when we can learn to "agree on being disagreeable."

So, with all these different frequencies being explained - there's no change of mind to still wanting the EVO 4G LTE...right?

No change.

And fwiw, it's the blogosphere that is being disagreeable - with the concept of fact checking before regurgitation.

They speak with authority, but we are left to unwind the facts. And their batting average wouldn't get them a place in T ball.

Same as it ever was.

 

[IOWA]

No change.

And fwiw, it's the blogosphere that is being disagreeable - with the concept of fact checking before regurgitation.

They speak with authority, but we are left to unwind the facts. And their batting average wouldn't get them a place in T ball.

Same as it ever was.

Sometimes I just have to SMH at blogs. They put out such conflicting information sometimes just for the sake a few extra page views.

 

[EarlyMon]

Sometimes I just have to SMH at blogs. They put out such conflicting information sometimes just for the sake a few extra page views.

Agreed.

That s4gru link that NeoteriX was interesting, especially the comments. That's the best I've seen so far. But I still think that there may be more conclusions than data there.

I could be wrong, I often am.

 

[3volut1on]

Whoooweee! How 'bout that weather today?! Lol

 

[EarlyMon]

^ lma0

 

[swazedahustla]

I still insist that the Sprint statements say that they're using the 800 MHz band, formerly for iDEN, to increase their 3G cdma coverage.

They used the statement, Network Vision, and blogs jumped to conclusions. Look at their map for Network Vision coverage, it pretty much says it all.

Whats up guys. From what I have read, Sprint is using the 800 MHz for 3G voice service, and 4G LTE Data service. So looks like talking and surfing at the same time is in Sprint's future without being on Wifi


Sprint details 4G LTE network roll-out plans, launch in mid-2012

 

[dan330]

Whats up guys. From what I have read, Sprint is using the 800 MHz for 3G voice service, and 4G LTE Data service. So looks like talking and surfing at the same time is in Sprint's future without being on Wifi


Sprint details 4G LTE network roll-out plans, launch in mid-2012

on my EVO OG...on Wimax (4G).. i can surf and talk...

problem.. finding good wimax.. while on the move

 

[drexappeal]

Sprint's LTE rollout, coupled with new phones being released every 6 months, is going to break my wallet. Never thought I'd be upgrading every year, but the past 2-3 years has changed that. Since Sprint's upgrade timeframe changed to 18 months, I think it'll be perfect timing. By the 18 month mark (after my last gold premiere upgrade), Sprint's NV will at least be closer (if not deployed already) and I can say I made a good choice by sticking it out with Sprint for over 13-14 years!...HAHAHAHA. Then again, considering it's still the only network that has decent/good signal at my house (one of the few places in L.A. that all the other Networks are awful), I really didn't have a choice.

 

[BenChase7]

Interesting conversation going on here, maybe 800LTE is closer then we think. At least according to S4GRU.com


S4GRU Teaser Discussion - Sprint 4G Rollout Updates

Edit: doesn't necessarily mean the EVO LTE will support it, just saying it might be on the way soon. However, I would be ecstatic if the new EVO supported this, even though its not included in the current FCC doc's.

 

[xusxmarinesx]

now I am really confused...this article says it does support 800 mhz lte... I am new to these forums so it doesn't allow me to post links in here...

its on gsmarena just search on that website

 

[EarlyMon]

Welcome to the forums!

I'm very surprised.

HTC Evo 4G LTE - Full phone specifications

A week or so ago, it didn't spec that way.

I have to chalk it up to blog pressure and confusion.

Plus, note that the HTC website says LTE bands 2 and 25 only.

HTC EVO 4G LTE (Sprint)

Bands 2 and 25 are strictly 1900 MHz only.

LTE frequency band

Normally, I trust gsmarena, but this time, they're wrong.

 

[xusxmarinesx]

Welcome to the forums!

I'm very surprised.

HTC Evo 4G LTE - Full phone specifications

A week or so ago, it didn't spec that way.

I have to chalk it up to blog pressure and confusion.

Plus, note that the HTC website says LTE bands 2 and 25 only.

HTC EVO 4G LTE (Sprint)

Bands 2 and 25 are strictly 1900 MHz only.

LTE frequency band

Normally, I trust gsmarena, but this time, they're wrong.

Thanks.... I saw another website that said lte 800/1900 but I can't find it. Why wouldn't they put the 800 MHz ability? What's the advantage of the 1900 MHz spectrum? I already know the disadvantage.