For me the GS3 has a slight advantage over the LTEvo with removable battery at this point. Once we get both phones up and working we will see. But for me, having the option of a removable battery is important. summer time is when I travel and don't always have access to charge my phone.
This is one my concerns as well (Non-Removable batt) and voiced it on another thread. I wish could give the person the proper credit for there response. In short, mentioned just buy ext batt charger. About the same size as regular phone battery and just plug your phone into it. Unless your flying Australia LTEVO's 2000mah is going to be enough for most.(his/her words) I thought to myself "Well there is a no-brainer" I agree would have been nice to include removable batt on LTEVO.
The LTEvo, like the Rezound, is using a Samsung camera sensor (actually the LTEvo uses Samsung for both cameras). Just saying. Bet it's the same as EL TEvo.
And before the confusion hits, pretty sure the USA/LTE market is going to see only the S4 in this phone - just a guess, but pretty sure based on -
The LTEvo, like the Rezound, is using a Samsung camera sensor (actually the LTEvo uses Samsung for both cameras). Just saying. Bet it's the same as EL TEvo.
And before the confusion hits, pretty sure the USA/LTE market is going to see only the S4 in this phone - just a guess, but pretty sure based on -
So, they are still using PenTile? Thats a bummer, imo. I hated the pentile screens. I know they say its supposedly less noticeable on a HD screen... But, I already went that route... never again.
I was very glad to see EL Tevo's HD screen was NOT PenTile.
EL TEvo advants for me: kickstand, cam and cam ui(based on specs,reviews and sample pics so far, and playing with the one x), slcd2, sense, hd voice potential, cam shutter button, availability, NV, unlimited data, beats audio simply cuz given the choice i'll take it, and the wonderful evo forum bunch!
GS3 advants for me: front cam, removable battery, wireless charging capability
things that don't make a diff to me : 4.7 vs 4.8, 32 or 64 g variant which equals more money I would think, most software add ons cuz I think I'll already have most of them and others would probably end up in the market somewhere if I really felt I wanted to try it, blue and white colors cuz I like black or silver phones
The LTEvo, like the Rezound, is using a Samsung camera sensor (actually the LTEvo uses Samsung for both cameras). Just saying. Bet it's the same as EL TEvo.
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Wish they'd drop the PenTile, but it doesn't bother a lot of people.
I'm cornfused, do you have a link about the camera sensor for the Evo 4G LTE?
I don't doubt you, I just want to know more since I haven't seen that info anywhere. I'm kind of an info junkie.
PenTile is a device killer in my opinion.When I saw PenTile earlier during the press release the phone took a leap off my list (opinion). I'll wait to see the screen in hand though before I say for sure.
The LTEvo, like the Rezound, is using a Samsung camera sensor (actually the LTEvo uses Samsung for both cameras). Just saying. Bet it's the same as EL TEvo.
And before the confusion hits, pretty sure the USA/LTE market is going to see only the S4 in this phone - just a guess, but pretty sure based on -
I'm cornfused, do you have a link about the camera sensor for the Evo 4G LTE?
I don't doubt you, I just want to know more since I haven't seen that info anywhere. I'm kind of an info junkie.
The HTC One X on AT&T (and the One X international) use the same front and rear facing cameras, and we’ve actually seen these modules before. The rear facing CMOS is a Samsung S5K3H2YX which Vivek spotted in the MyTouch 4G Slide. This is an 8 MP 1/3.2“ format BSI sensor with 1.4
So.. the GS3 comes with a 4.8 inch screen as compared to 4.7 on the Evo, comes in 16,32 and 64 gig models PLUS sd card which means technically you can expand to 96 gigs, a quad core xynos vs a dual core s4, thinner with a removable 2100 mah battery but the Evo is killin it? I've heard fanboyism before but sheesh. I'll even give the Evo the screen win (even though many do prefer the AMOLED), and I can't even give you the camera considering the pics the One X takes couldnt even best the GS2 or the 4S.
I mean sure, being able to take 100 pics in a minute is cool (or however many it is) but in pretty much all the comparisons the One X has come in last in the actual quality of the pics between the 3. So i'm trying to figure, where's the kill here lol. And engadget has already said the GS3 spanks the One X browser easily (no surprise there) so help me understand the "killing" thing.
Uh oh, look what you started Drex. Lol Anyway, as far as screens go....EVO all the way. Suprised Samsung didn't try to do better in that department. Sense 4 looks better than the new touchwiz. But it does have a removable battery. That's a plus. I'm going to be neutral here and test both phones. Surprisingly, I'm still undecided....damn lol. Does the new Galaxy have scrolling wallpapers? From the vids it doesnt seem so.
I'll just note for anyone wondering -- Samsung's ability to develop a phone thinner than the HTC One X and with a removable 7.77 Whr battery is a testament to the space advantages of AMOLED screen technology.
Using optical lamination on an LCD display pretty much cuts down the thickness of the screen as much as physically possible, but nonetheless, having a backlight requires some space.
Since AMOLED pixels are self emissive (they generate their own light), that accounts for your space saving right there!
On another note, I'm really not sure what HTC was thinking limiting the onboard memory to 16 GB on the One X... I can accept that from an engineering standpoint, there was no space for the microSD card (the Evo has one because the space normally reserved for the SIM card was thankfully replaced with a microSD one), but I feel like internal memory is a tangible fixed number for consumers to grasp, and when one phone has less (and only comes in the "less" option), whereas other phones have more (and more more), that is an easy sales loss right there.
Interesting that the HD Super Amoled is a Pentile screen. That's never really been an issue for me with the Photon, even though I did notice it (after never having a pentile screen before).
Nontheless, screen clarity has always been the most important aspect for me. As long as I can see the phone in the sun and also have auto brightness on, without it draining battery, I'm fine with any screen.
Interesting that the HD Super Amoled is a Pentile screen. That's never really been an issue for me with the Photon, even though I did notice it (after never having a pentile screen before).
Nontheless, screen clarity has always been the most important aspect for me. As long as I can see the phone in the sun and also have auto brightness on, without it draining battery, I'm fine with any screen.
I cant believe they used PenTile on the GSIII, myself. Its always been a downfall to me. I know they say it dosent make as much of a difference on an HD screen... but I've been down that road once.. and I wont do it again.
I'm still waiting for Motorola. Having said that, and I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking this so I'll just say it. El TEvo isn't a Samsung. That alone gives the EL TEvo 1,000,000 votes from me.
OK, enough of my anti-Samsung bias, back to the technical reasons people are picking between the two...
After watching the whole thing live and seeing the specs I can see that both phones are going to be very evenly matched. I think the decision to buy either will be swayed by whether you favor HTC or Samsung. I think HTC dropped the ball big time by leaving out bigger storage on the other ONE models.
You couldnt pay me to own a Samsung phone again. I got sucked into buying the Galaxy Note on AT&T and while this phone is nice it still has all the Sammy issues...radios, wifi, reception and terrible GPS. And the kicker is this phone has two GPS radios in it. The normal one and a GLONASS one (similar to a windshield mounted GPS unit in a car) and it still has trouble locking on and staying locked on.
TouchWiz sucks. I hate it. I really wish carriers gave you and option to use they're skin or just Vanilla Android. Especially now because I loved vanilla ICS.
Samsung sucks people in with the specs and their screens. Which they sound and look great but I've found out with the Epic, Nexus S and now the Note that when it comes to everyday real world use Samsung products are pretty much junk. All three phones all had GPS, Wifi and singal reception issues. Seems like a running theme for Samsung across the board.
Hell on Sprint the signal is Qualcomm based and Samsung used a 3rd party radio instead of a Qualcomm one. Why? Beats me. Not sure if it's that way now though? Why not one that was made for a qualcomm signal?
I'll just note for anyone wondering -- Samsung's ability to develop a phone thinner than the HTC One X and with a removable 7.77 Whr battery is a testament to the space advantages of AMOLED screen technology.
Using optical lamination on an LCD display pretty much cuts down the thickness of the screen as much as physically possible, but nonetheless, having a backlight requires some space.
Since AMOLED pixels are self emissive (they generate their own light), that accounts for your space saving right there!
On another note, I'm really not sure what HTC was thinking limiting the onboard memory to 16 GB on the One X... I can accept that from an engineering standpoint, there was no space for the microSD card (the Evo has one because the space normally reserved for the SIM card was thankfully replaced with a microSD one), but I feel like internal memory is a tangible fixed number for consumers to grasp, and when one phone has less (and only comes in the "less" option), whereas other phones have more (and more more), that is an easy sales loss right there.
There's an old saying among military planners - the biggest problem throughout history is that most planners have always been about figuring out how to fight the last war.
Translation - none of the Android makers really understand us and what we want.
Google has cloud services, HTC has bought a number of the same, Samsung makes TVs and Motorola, I'm not sure about.
The last war, a few years ago, was about media. So, the storage now is all about that and that fits in with their sense of the world of buyers.
If the LTEvo is like the One X, it'll have 2 GB for apps and about 9 GB for an internal /sdcard partition. That's double the 3vo app space and quadruple for the Evo - and just bumping up the space included with old 8 GB cards that they didn't perceive any complaints with.
By HTC measures, they've done really well.
By our measures - not so much. Consumers see 16 GB of storage, join Android, then post here - where's the rest of my memory? Or, they see 6 GB free on /sdcard and ask, why can't I store more apps?
Unless and until app storage and user data are just a sea of storage where the consumer doesn't have to care, as Auzo reminded us recently -
I'm confused, what ever happened to the unified storage model introduced in honeycomb? Why do no manufacturers use it? It seems pretty great. It looks like the tradeoff is no USB mass storage, but I think I am ok with that.
From Dan Morrill (google engineer):
"With the unified storage model we introduced in Honeycomb, we share your full 32GB (or 16GB or whatever) between app data and media data. That is, no more staring sadly at your 5GB free on Nexus S when your internal app data partition has filled up -- it's all one big happy volume."
with 32GB internal storage coupled with the cloud, and google's local caching features in most their media apps I think i am ready to drop the sd card in favor of a better filesystem.
Software technologies exist so that those of us used to going under the hood, or used to just mounting our phones as an USB drive to get to our sd card content - can have all of our storage for apps or sd card use simply shared from a common pool.
Then instead of telling people that they're getting, say, 16 GB or whatever (true in hardware but not in reality - the operating system and phone needs some) they could just say - you're getting 11 GB or whatever on board to use for apps, media and your data.
Then, options for adding sd cards or buying phones with more memory will make more sense for all of us. We're smart enough to manage what we store on our PCs, we're smart enough to do that here on phones today.
Google, Samsung and HTC simply don't get us as consumers.
Still unless I hear that Samsung screwed up the added storage (and everyone has had a history of that at times), I'll have to give the storage round to Sammy on this one.
I'm giving both phones a C+ for having 1 GB of ram. These CPUs and GPUs are phenomenal and Android is only growing and app complexity and features can only increase - the day for 2 GB is here.
So, that's a draw for the SGS3 and EL TEvo, in my view.
There's an old saying among military planners - the biggest problem throughout history is that most planners have always been about figuring out how to fight the last war.
Translation - none of the Android makers really understand us and what we want.
Google has cloud services, HTC has bought a number of the same, Samsung makes TVs and Motorola, I'm not sure about.
The last war, a few years ago, was about media. So, the storage now is all about that and that fits in with their sense of the world of buyers.
If the LTEvo is like the One X, it'll have 2 GB for apps and about 9 GB for an internal /sdcard partition. That's double the 3vo app space and quadruple for the Evo - and just bumping up the space included with old 8 GB cards that they didn't perceive any complaints with.
By HTC measures, they've done really well.
By our measures - not so much. Consumers see 16 GB of storage, join Android, then post here - where's the rest of my memory? Or, they see 6 GB free on /sdcard and ask, why can't I store more apps?
Unless and until app storage and user data are just a sea of storage where the consumer doesn't have to care, as Auzo reminded us recently -
TL/DR or too techy translation:
Software technologies exist so that those of us used to going under the hood, or used to just mounting our phones as an USB drive to get to our sd card content - can have all of our storage for apps or sd card use simply shared from a common pool.
Then instead of telling people that they're getting, say, 16 GB or whatever (true in hardware but not in reality - the operating system and phone needs some) they could just say - you're getting 11 GB or whatever on board to use for apps, media and your data.
Then, options for adding sd cards or buying phones with more memory will make more sense for all of us. We're smart enough to manage what we store on our PCs, we're smart enough to do that here on phones today.
Google, Samsung and HTC simply don't get us as consumers.
Still unless I hear that Samsung screwed up the added storage (and everyone has had a history of that at times), I'll have to give the storage round to Sammy on this one.
I'm giving both phones a C+ for having 1 GB of ram. These CPUs and GPUs are phenomenal and Android is only growing and app complexity and features can only increase - the day for 2 GB is here.
So, that's a draw for the SGS3 and EL TEvo, in my view.
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