We don't know if the US, specifically Sprint model, will get the Exynos or S4. If S4, it'll be more like EL TEvo than not.
If Exynos, this new Exynos 4412 has a twist to it that we've not seen before - the cores run asynchronously for clock speed and voltage levels - just like the S4. I'm just about positive that's a first for an ARM Cortex cpu design.
Translation - anything up to two cores used, the S4 will win. If more cores are used, the Exynos could match the S4 or pull out ahead.
The S4 is built using the power-friendly (more like get you drunk and seduce you than friendly) 28 nm manufacturing process. The Exynos is built from a 32 nm process.
The processors are going to be close (with the nod probably going to Exynos for very heavy gaming).
There's an old saying among military planners - the biggest problem throughout history is that most planners have always been about figuring out how to fight the last war.
Translation - none of the Android makers really understand us and what we want.
Google has cloud services, HTC has bought a number of the same, Samsung makes TVs and Motorola, I'm not sure about.
The last war, a few years ago, was about media. So, the storage now is all about that and that fits in with their sense of the world of buyers.
If the LTEvo is like the One X, it'll have 2 GB for apps and about 9 GB for an internal /sdcard partition. That's double the 3vo app space and quadruple for the Evo - and just bumping up the space included with old 8 GB cards that they didn't perceive any complaints with.
By HTC measures, they've done really well.
By our measures - not so much. Consumers see 16 GB of storage, join Android, then post here - where's the rest of my memory? Or, they see 6 GB free on /sdcard and ask, why can't I store more apps?
Unless and until app storage and user data are just a sea of storage where the consumer doesn't have to care, as Auzo reminded us recently -
TL/DR or too techy translation:
Software technologies exist so that those of us used to going under the hood, or used to just mounting our phones as an USB drive to get to our sd card content - can have all of our storage for apps or sd card use simply shared from a common pool.
Then instead of telling people that they're getting, say, 16 GB or whatever (true in hardware but not in reality - the operating system and phone needs some) they could just say - you're getting 11 GB or whatever on board to use for apps, media and your data.
Then, options for adding sd cards or buying phones with more memory will make more sense for all of us. We're smart enough to manage what we store on our PCs, we're smart enough to do that here on phones today.
Google, Samsung and HTC simply don't get us as consumers.
Still unless I hear that Samsung screwed up the added storage (and everyone has had a history of that at times), I'll have to give the storage round to Sammy on this one.
I'm giving both phones a C+ for having 1 GB of ram. These CPUs and GPUs are phenomenal and Android is only growing and app complexity and features can only increase - the day for 2 GB is here.
So, that's a draw for the SGS3 and EL TEvo, in my view.
I don't think all the new software including s voice and the new gestures like holding finger on screen and turning sideways to activate camera will have the impact Sammy desires in the long run. its brand new now and of course seems magical, but IMO only the iPhone can pull off those kinds of "magical" implementations. android has had things like voice search forever, and it's been overshadowed. iphone adds it and now Siri commercials are everywhere. the sheer number of loyalists, sales and funds at apples disposal allow that kind of stuff to take off with them. I just don't think people will find it as revolutionary on an android device. initially yes, but only for a very short while, especially when some of the new software ie the holding finger and turning for cam activation seems more cumbersome than not, at least based on the vid I saw of that feature in action. it would be great if it weren't this way, but crazily I think these features on the new gs3 will ultimately end up being compared to and called "copying" the iPhone.
I do like the auto call when held to face thingy. I could see myself using a feature like that sometimes. as of now it's rare that from texting or a contact page that I end up calling the person, otherwise why not just call from jump, but at times it could be useful....
oh and the pop up vid could be cool...trying to figure out how I or when I would use that....maybe as a reference if sending a text or email or something...
as I keep thinking about it, the more it seems like Sammy might have overplayed the stroke just a tad bit with some of the new software features...I equate many of them to the 3d in the 3vo....not an everyday thing with me. not even an every several months thing....perhaps time didn't afford them to "shock the world" and the focus on software is meant to bide them more time until the next time...interesting...in contrast to me with EL TEvo, most of the things to brag about are features that I'll most likely use darn near every day, ie kickstand, cam, hd voice in the near future, shutter button....just my take
I don't think all the new software including s voice and the new gestures like holding finger on screen and turning sideways to activate camera will have the impact Sammy desires in the long run. its brand new now and of course seems magical, but IMO only the iPhone can pull off those kinds of "magical" implementations. android has had things like voice search forever, and it's been overshadowed. iphone adds it and now Siri commercials are everywhere. the sheer number of loyalists, sales and funds at apples disposal allow that kind of stuff to take off with them. I just don't think people will find it as revolutionary on an android device. initially yes, but only for a very short while, especially when some of the new software ie the holding finger and turning for cam activation seems more cumbersome than not, at least based on the vid I saw of that feature in action. it would be great if it weren't this way, but crazily I think these features on the new gs3 will ultimately end up being compared to and called "copying" the iPhone.
Even before Android, Windows Mobile had voice search and calling and IMO, was 10X's better than Android, especially when using A2DP Bluetooth. Windows Mobile voice calling was actually much more accurate and it would ask you if it got the right person, prior to dialing (vs. Android, where it just dials what it thinks you said).
Main thing I'm skeptical about with all the new software Samsung has come out with is how does it work in "real world" environments. Does S voice really work that well, when you're in a public area where there's all kinds of extra noise in the background? And how does it work with bluetooth headsets and a2dp or does it work with a2dp at all? With facial recognition, how will it work in the dark? Those are the types of things I'd like to see, once the phone is out at the end of May. Even then, who knows if that translates the same on the Sprint version.
If it's allocated like the One X, and I think that it will be, then yep, 2 GB for apps, double what the Evo 3D had.
I believe that the LTEvo won't ship with an sd card, and like all extended-storage phones, a portion of the larger storage will be mounted as /sdcard - that's pretty standard now.
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FWIW - before Siri, Samsung ran ads on it's voice recognition stuff built-in.
They didn't get accused of copying later, because no one really paid attention to the ads. Apple makes a ton on iPhones and their marketing is focused, while for Sammy, it's just another business segment (and their advertising pushes Sammy first, products second, features third - no wonder no one noticed).
The Siri mindset is there. Anything said on the Android side will forevermore be compared to Siri, and facts won't matter.
To this day, people will still comment on Beta vs VHS with all sorts of urban myths accepted as facts.
Voice recognition in the Android vs Apple world will no different years from now.
Even if it gets the relevance it deserves, like, videotapes.
(Goes back to what I said earlier - planners are always fighting the last war. Samsung is fighting the Siri war with that stuff. That war is already over.)
The Galaxy Nexus is 720p with PenTile. I had a chance to examine the screen of a coworker's GNex, and at that pixel density, you do have to look hard to notice it. So I think at 720p the vast majority of people will think it's a non-issue. Of course, given the choice between PenTile 720p and traditional RGB stripe 720p, I'm still going with RGB stripe, simply because I can still see the difference, and I don't have to settle.
but... how are sammy's radio this time around...have they REALLY fixed it?
and have they just shoved a bunch of great stuff in their box.. without trying to work on how well they work together in the box (integration)
GSIII by a fraction of a mm so for all intents and purposes they are the same
GS3 is 8.6mm LTEVO is 8.9mm thin... mute in my opinion... if anyone out there can feel the difference of .3mm at roughly 9mm thickness your pretty special
that means the LTEVO is 3.4% thicker than the GSIII according to my head math
Indeed! With the LTEvo dedicated camera button, kickstand and 2100mAh battery and it only bieng a .3mm difference, that's good HTC! LTEvo the force is strong in you.....sigh.....sigh! It's true! lol!
Looking at how Samsung made their phone thinner, and with a removable battery, why couldn't HTC find a way to do the same? It seems like HTC may rushed things a bit to me.
but... how are sammy's radio this time around...have they REALLY fixed it?
and have they just shoved a bunch of great stuff in their box.. without trying to work on how well they work together in the box (integration)
There's no telling what will happen to the American version and if Sprint doesn't do something else with it, as well. Comparing the LTEvo to the international version of the GS3 is a bit off balance, at best. I think I'll wait until Sprint releases details about the GS3 that they will be carrying. And, of course, the very odd name they will give it.
Looking at how Samsung made their phone thinner, and with a removable battery, why couldn't HTC find a way to do the same? It seems like HTC may rushed things a bit to me.
I'll just note for anyone wondering -- Samsung's ability to develop a phone thinner than the HTC One X and with a removable 7.77 Whr battery is a testament to the space advantages of AMOLED screen technology.
Using optical lamination on an LCD display pretty much cuts down the thickness of the screen as much as physically possible, but nonetheless, having a backlight requires some space.
Since AMOLED pixels are self emissive (they generate their own light), that accounts for your space saving right there!
as I keep thinking about it, the more it seems like Sammy might have overplayed the stroke just a tad bit with some of the new software features...I equate many of them to the 3d in the 3vo....not an everyday thing with me.
It's the only choice they have. Android manufacturers are desperate to distinguish themselves and avoid commoditization of the Android phone market -- because at some point, and we're already seeing this, the hardware is converging and there isn't much to distinguish one phone from another from a hardware standpoint.
Already on most hardware fronts, the HTC One X/LTEvo and the Galaxy S3 are pretty comparable. As other people have already observed, in many ways it's a wash. Similar thinness, CPU performance, screen size, screen resolution, etc.
Samsung needs to build brand loyalty and through its attempted innovation on the software end, they are hoping it's enough glitz for consumers new to the smartphone market to jump on that ship.
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LTEvo the force is strong in you.....sigh.....sigh! It's true! lol!
