(VZW) Nexus 4.0.X Update Discussion

[jkc120]

Turning off LTE does not help phones calls or texts. LTE is data only. Turning off LTE allows one to get a CDMA reading. All phone calls and texts are handled by CDMA. Just wait a bit for the signal reading to change from LTE to CDMA. As I noted earlier, my LTE is -106 but my CDMA is -120. My map is like yours in that it shows complete voice coverage. It is just not accurate.

I agree turning off LTE should not help. What I was getting at is whether it could be the LTE radio grenading the 3G radio or the transition/drop from LTE to 3G causing it. As I said, others tried this in the google code/bug report thread and it did not help.

My CDMA signal is stronger than my LTE signal. I can do some signal mapping tonight in various places in my house. The dropped calls have mostly occurred in my kitchen so perhaps there's a black hole area there. Won't know until I can map out my signal.

Speaking of which, is there an app that will track your signal every 1s or something and log it? I know the about phone info only updates periodically, but can the signal levels be polled directly from sysfs/sysctl or something similar?

 

[JamesSJ]

Speaking of which, is there an app that will track your signal every 1s or something and log it? I know the about phone info only updates periodically, but can the signal levels be polled directly from sysfs/sysctl or something similar?

From the post from the moderator above, it sounds like 4.0.4 does give continuous real-time readings. I found an app that logged signal strength but it did not work with ICS. I will check again and post if it does now.

 

[trophynuts]

someone mentioned what i was going to say in that Yeah turning LTE off shouldn't effect your voice/mms/sms functions as they go through CDMA ...until next year anyways..

but yeah like another person mentioned i think the problem is if you leave LTE on the phone is doing a musical radio dance and finally just doesn't connect to either CDMA or LTE. ...if that makes sense. ...on top of that when you add wifi in to the mix that is one more radio to hand off for and that has been bad as well.

 

[JamesSJ]

someone mentioned what i was going to say in that Yeah turning LTE off shouldn't effect your voice/mms/sms functions as they go through CDMA ...until next year anyways..

but yeah like another person mentioned i think the problem is if you leave LTE on the phone is doing a musical radio dance and finally just doesn't connect to either CDMA or LTE. ...if that makes sense. ...on top of that when you add wifi in to the mix that is one more radio to hand off for and that has been bad as well.

When are voice/mms/sms going to go through LTE?

My particular problem is due to a very weak CDMA signal (-120 dBm).

 

[TheyCallMeBT]

When are voice/mms/sms going to go through LTE?

Same question! I didn't know this was in the works with an actual timeline. Hopefully it will just be how the industry goes, and not an "HD voice" call feature for $5.99 a month.

 

[jkc120]

When are voice/mms/sms going to go through LTE?

My particular problem is due to a very weak CDMA signal (-120 dBm).

They're not. trophynuts's point was that there appear to be handoff issues that allow the LTE radio to affect the CDMA radio, even though LTE isn't used for voice or SMS.

 

[Tim K]

One thing I might add is that I am in a decent cdma area with borderline lte. My LTE signal usually floats around -102 dbm and my cdma is fairly solid and reads about -93 dbm. I rarely drop LTE even at -114 dbm though and never had the audio mute.

Also in terms of radio performance side by side on cdma my nexus holds at -93, my Droid OG floats between -83 and -92 as does my wife's razr. Technically that is a wash to me since the moto phones display in 1dbm increments but the nexus jumps from -87 to -93 to -97 (or something like that).

 

[finn5975]

Quick question. Will the flashable 4.04 update for root users be as good/operational as the Verizon ota update? I flashed it this morning and honestly do not see any improvements at all

 

[moosc]

Besides radios there really isn't much new to report on. Also vzw hasn't officially announced this update. We could sit another 2 months like the previous 4.0.4 leak.

Quick question. Will the flashable 4.04 update for root users be as good/operational as the Verizon ota update? I flashed it this morning and honestly do not see any improvements at all

 

[Jay3]

I just divert my every waking thought to one day switching from Verizon. The minute it becomes remotely comparable, I'm switching service.

If they ask me a reason why, I'm going to say "I've been using your service for 10 years, I've been with you through many changes, developments, policies, and phones. And I hate your company with the fire of 1,000 suns."

 

[colchiro]

I've had it happen on ALL of the nexuses I've owned. If it's hardware, I think it affects many/all of them.

I can't count how many times I had this on my DroidX. When it happened, I'd reboot it and it'd be fine for 3 or 4 weeks.

 

[Demache]

Actually, now that I think about it, didn't the silent call issue happen on the Eris as well? It took Verizon several months to release an update.

So apparently this isn't an uncommon issue for Verizon.

 

[trophynuts]

When are voice/mms/sms going to go through LTE?

My particular problem is due to a very weak CDMA signal (-120 dBm).

Same question! I didn't know this was in the works with an actual timeline. Hopefully it will just be how the industry goes, and not an "HD voice" call feature for $5.99 a month.

They're not. trophynuts's point was that there appear to be handoff issues that allow the LTE radio to affect the CDMA radio, even though LTE isn't used for voice or SMS.

actually yes eventually they are. Starting in 2013 VZW will begin migrating to VoLTE. Voice Over LTE.

Verizon reportedly trials VoLTE services in two cities, eyes nationwide rollout next year - Engadget

in 4 years from now there won't be 3G if you ask me. Everything will be 4G/lte

 

[Demache]

actually yes eventually they are. Starting in 2013 VZW will begin migrating to VoLTE. Voice Over LTE.

Verizon reportedly trials VoLTE services in two cities, eyes nationwide rollout next year - Engadget

in 4 years from now there won't be 3G if you ask me. Everything will be 4G/lte

Naturally, it costs them money to maintain 3G. And in 4 years time, most people will have upgraded to 4G capable phones.

 

[trophynuts]

Besides radios there really isn't much new to report on. Also vzw hasn't officially announced this update. We could sit another 2 months like the previous 4.0.4 leak.

actually they kind of did acknowledge yesterday's leak in a round about way sort of


Verizon’s public beta test of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus could be coming to an end soon | Android and Me

 

[Demache]

actually they kind of did acknowledge yesterday's leak in a round about way sort of


Verizon’s public beta test of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus could be coming to an end soon | Android and Me

You know what I bet Verizon will start allowing bi-weekly updates to the phone as an apology that will start addressing major concerns and actually fix signal issues.







:laugh:

 

[puppeteer]

You know what I bet Verizon will start allowing bi-weekly updates to the phone as an apology that will start addressing major concerns and actually fix signal issues.

:laugh:

Shyeah right, and monkeys might fly out of my butt!

 

[Lucky Armpit]

Verizon released a statement about yesterday's update: Verizon

 

[Crashumbc]

actually they kind of did acknowledge yesterday's leak in a round about way sort of


Verizon

 

[rfdong]

Just a quick question about OTA updates. If you're on WiFi at the time you update, are OTA's taken over WiFi or strictly "over the air" ie 3G or LTE? Thanks. Previously, when I had DX and it updated it wasn't apparent, and I didn't want to turn Wifi off to "see" what happens.....

 

[moosc]

Doesn't matter I just updated my dx that's not active over wifi. But most likely ull need to b on a official update path. And since this ISNT official and may not be going public you all may need to roll back to 4.0.2 to see a update from vzw

 

[Lucky Armpit]

Yeah, That guy is stretching limits of inferring things, little bit too far for me.

I'll take anything positive at this point.

 

[moosc]

And I for one don't believe its beta test for vzw. They have no way to gauge the results. Unless they spend hours looking through all android forums. Probably nothing more then a oopsee by Google. I mean what ever happened to the rumor 4.0.5 vzw was testing?

 

[Crashumbc]

And I for one don't believe its beta test for vzw. They have no way to gauge the results. Unless they spend hours looking through all android forums. Probably nothing more then a oopsee by Google. I mean what ever happened to the rumor 4.0.5 vzw was testing?

They can gauge the results from:
User complaints (this is more to judge if it "broke" phones)
the phones signal strength
if the phone is dropping calls.
etc

your are NOT the only one who access to info. cell is a two way communication system

I'd bet anything VZW can track signal strength,call quality,etc for any device connected to their network...

 

[Tim K]

And I for one don't believe its beta test for vzw. They have no way to gauge the results. Unless they spend hours looking through all android forums. Probably nothing more then a oopsee by Google. I mean what ever happened to the rumor 4.0.5 vzw was testing?

They've done this for major OS updates on all their android phones back to the original Droid. It is absolutely a test by verizon.