Root quick darktremor questions...

[paully]

restating what I think is correct to solidify clarity...

with dt, running the "a2sd reinstall" and "a2sd cachesd" commands moves already installed apps to the sd card.

any apps installed thereafter, either via market or TB, get installed internally on the phone. Until the "a2sd reinstall" and "a2sd cachesd" commands are run again, then everything internal is moved over once more.


right?

 

[Mikestony]

restating what I think is correct to solidify clarity...

with dt, running the "a2sd reinstall" and "a2sd cachesd" commands moves already installed apps to the sd card.

any apps installed thereafter, either via market or TB, get installed internally on the phone. Until the "a2sd reinstall" and "a2sd cachesd" commands are run again, then everything internal is moved over once more.


right?

I think those 2 commands work if a previous command to remove apps or cache is done.
dt a2sd automatically sends apps to sd ext. thereafter...
Anyone care to confirm?

 

[argedion]

I think those 2 commands work if a previous command to remove apps or cache is done.
dt a2sd automatically sends apps to sd ext. thereafter...
Anyone care to confirm?

It's supposed to do it automatically yes. However it doesn't always. The 2 commands should work with out a prior run "reinstall" is essentially the same thing as "install" Also a2sd will only send the app to sd during the boot process.

 

[Mikestony]

It's supposed to do it automatically yes. However it doesn't always. The 2 commands should work with out a prior run "reinstall" is essentially the same thing as "install" Also a2sd will only send the app to sd during the boot process.

Thanks, I did not know that..So if I download, let's say, 5 apps and did not reboot, those apps are on the internal storage until I reboot? Then they go to sdext?

 

[argedion]

Thanks, I did not know that..So if I download, let's say, 5 apps and did not reboot, those apps are on the internal storage until I reboot? Then they go to sdext?

Yes if the guide I read way back when I first started using it is correct. I thought I had it in my favorites / Bookmarks but its not there It was a decent guide to.

 

[Rxpert83]

This is why I keep coming back, I learn something new everyday

 

[paully]

ok. I flashed (wiping cache and dalvik between each flashing):
- mikG: v3.11 (which autoreboots, so I powered phone back off)
- anthrax: SUPERSONIC-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.8-REV_zzzTESTzzz009.zip
- dt: dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
- wiped cache and dalvik again, rebooted, left phone on for 10mins, and rebooted, (per chad's thorough recommendations)

installed terminal, and ran "su" (got the #), "a2sd reinstall" which reboots after running, then ran "a2sd cachesd".

- fired up TB, which stated 376MB internal storage.
- used TB to restore 20 apps + data
- TB then stated 349MB internal storage (? apps didn't go to sd ?)
- I rebooted phone, TB still stated 349MB internal storage
- I ran the scripts again (just "su" and "a2sd reinstall" this time)
- TB still states 349MB internal, with 51 app that can be "batch moved" to sd

so something's not working. any idears?

 

[argedion]

ok. I flashed (wiping cache and dalvik between each flashing):
- mikG: v3.11 (which autoreboots, so I powered phone back off)
- anthrax: SUPERSONIC-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.8-REV_zzzTESTzzz009.zip
- dt: dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
- wiped cache and dalvik again, rebooted, left phone on for 10mins, and rebooted, (per chad's thorough recommendations)

installed terminal, and ran "su" (got the #), "a2sd reinstall" which reboots after running, then ran "a2sd cachesd".

- fired up TB, which stated 376MB internal storage.
- used TB to restore 20 apps + data
- TB then stated 349MB internal storage (? apps didn't go to sd ?)
- I rebooted phone, TB still stated 349MB internal storage
- I ran the scripts again (just "su" and "a2sd reinstall" this time)
- TB still states 349MB internal, with 51 app that can be "batch moved" to sd

so something's not working. any idears?

You have the Card Partitioned Right? I would go with EXT3 even though 4 is a bit better not all ROMS support it.

 

[Rxpert83]

Mikg comes with cma2sd so you don't need to use dta2sd. Just flash and restore and it should all be there as long as the card is partitioned

 

[argedion]

Mikg comes with cma2sd so you don't need to use dta2sd. Just flash and restore and it should all be there as long as the card is partitioned

yeah wait he said works to :banghead:

 

[Mikestony]

Mikg comes with cma2sd so you don't need to use dta2sd. Just flash and restore and it should all be there as long as the card is partitioned

Is cma2sd a cyanogenmod script? I am running Mikg and when I type "a2sd check" in terminal emulator, it says I have darktremor Apps2ad v2.7.5.2 and gives a report etc.
Just wondering if it's the same thing

Edit: when I originally flashed MikG v3.11, I did not flash dta2sd

 

[Mikestony]

ok. I flashed (wiping cache and dalvik between each flashing):
- mikG: v3.11 (which autoreboots, so I powered phone back off)
- anthrax: SUPERSONIC-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.8-REV_zzzTESTzzz009.zip
- dt: dtapps2sd-2.7.5.3-beta04-signed.zip
- wiped cache and dalvik again, rebooted, left phone on for 10mins, and rebooted, (per chad's thorough recommendations)

installed terminal, and ran "su" (got the #), "a2sd reinstall" which reboots after running, then ran "a2sd cachesd".

- fired up TB, which stated 376MB internal storage.
- used TB to restore 20 apps + data
- TB then stated 349MB internal storage (? apps didn't go to sd ?)
- I rebooted phone, TB still stated 349MB internal storage
- I ran the scripts again (just "su" and "a2sd reinstall" this time)
- TB still states 349MB internal, with 51 app that can be "batch moved" to sd

so something's not working. any idears?

I don't know exactly what the issue is but I'll throw something out there...would fixing permissions via recovery help?

 

[argedion]

Do note that you will have to wipe cache and Dalvic in order to see the change Dalvic cache has stored what the system tells it.

 

[paully]

yes. the card is partitioned. precisely as described in the guide: via ra, 32MB for swap, 2048MB upgraded from ext2 to ext3 for the partition itself.


hrmmm..... I'll have to look into how cma2sd works. since it's part of the rom, it prolly doesn't move things over automatically cuz not everyone's sd card would be partitioned. unless it checks for that, and then toggles on (?).

hopefully there's a "toggle on" script like w/ dt, you don't have to manually move each app over.

 

[Rxpert83]

It does it all automatically as long as its partitioned.

How? I donno....?

 

[paully]

It does it all automatically as long as its partitioned.

How? I donno....?

pure magic i'm sure.

 

[paully]

Mikg comes with cma2sd so you don't need to use dta2sd. Just flash and restore and it should all be there as long as the card is partitioned

so. in order to get rid of dt, I prolly need to:
full wipe everything, including, sd ext?

then flash rom n kernel as normal.

i'm curious to see how this works out. because (as described above) none of the TB restored apps made it to the sd card before, even though cma2sd is part of the rom and the sd card was partitioned. perhaps having flashed and used dt messed with cma2sd?

 

[argedion]

so. in order to get rid of dt, I prolly need to:
full wipe everything, including, sd ext?

then flash rom n kernel as normal.

i'm curious to see how this works out. because (as described above) none of the TB restored apps made it to the sd card before, even though cma2sd is part of the rom and the sd card was partitioned. perhaps having flashed and used dt messed with cma2sd?

yeah they were probably fighting over who gets to do what.

Not sure what the process is when doing a restore with TB. but it does all get to the card

 

[paully]

okie dokie. so I've begun anew in attempts to remove dt and get cma2sd firing on all cylinders. sd card is partitioned, as mentioned earlier in the thread.

- did full wipe, including sdext
- flashed mikG: v3.11 (which autoreboots, so I powered phone back off)
- wiped cache and dalvik
- flashed anthrax: SUPERSONIC-SENSE-AnthraX-2.6.38.8-REV_zzzTESTzzz009.zip
- wiped cache and dalvik again, rebooted, left phone on for 10mins, and rebooted

- installed TB from the market, it stated relevant free space as:
391MB on internal, 1.79GB on SD card (a2sd)
- installed 5 apps directly from the market
- TB stated relevant free space as:
378MB on internal, 1.77GB on SD card (a2sd) [a little loss on the partition, also some on sd partition]
- rebooted
- TB stated relevant free space as:
382MB on internal, 1.77GB on SD card (a2sd) [got some space back internally, no action on sd, at least measured in 10s of MBs]
- used TB to restore 15 app + data
- TB stated relevant free space as:
369MB on internal, 1.73GB on SD card (a2sd) [again more loss internally]
- rebooted
- TB stated relevant free space as:
371MB on internal, 1.73GB on SD card (a2sd) [again reboot gets a little internal space after installs]

so after, via market and TB, 18ish apps + data installed/restored, loss of 20MBs internal and loss of 60MBs (again rounding to the nearest 10MB) on sd parition.

this seem about right?

 

[Rxpert83]

Sounds like its working to me. I've never done it quite as methodically as you have, but you have to keep in mind that there has to be a symbolic link kept on the phone to tell the phone where it can find the application (on the Sd-ext partition). This is going to take up some room, but I don't know how much it takes up.


How big were the apps you were restoring? Were they large games or smaller apps?

 

[argedion]

Also important to figure is any email/text/Facebook stuff that gets stored in the same internal memory as apps

 

[bigbear6708]

2 GB partition is HUGE!!! putting a few apps into it prob. wont show much a dent at all. looks as if a2sd is working correctly. For me when it is not installed, TB wont show the sd partition, once I flashed the script, the partition space shows up in TB (AOSP user)...not sure if my method is scientific..but it lets me sleep at night!!

 

[Rxpert83]

2 GB partition is HUGE!!! putting a few apps into it prob. wont show much a dent at all. looks as if a2sd is working correctly. For me when it is not installed, TB wont show the sd partition, once I flashed the script, the partition space shows up in TB (AOSP user)...not sure if my method is scientific..but it lets me sleep at night!!

I use 2gb as well. I'm not ever gonna fill up my 16gb card

 

[paully]

Evernote was this biggest one at 10.03MB. so it's prolly only 50-70MB total worth of apps, or something like that.

I just checked on her now, this is my wife's evo that I'm playing with here. She's had a couple of reboots, once while playin w/ camera and once while playin w/ pandora. I'm dismayed to hear that. I just can't seem to get a stable rom n kernel combo on her phone. I had hoped that her reboot issues before were from the extremely small amount of internal space, when was runnin MikG v3.0 w/ lithid's kernels.

Should I try just MikG v3.11 w/ it's stock kernel next? (Maybe I need to get away from MikG entirely.)

Or maybe the anthrax kernel's still breaking in. we'll give it a little longer.

 

[Rxpert83]

Are you using setcpu to change the speeds of the device?