Root problem after installing hboot

[dragon181988]

he guys,

i have a problem. i was rooting and s-off a desire of a friend and installed the dGB rom. after that i did the update of the hboot but i think it went wrong there. after installing the rom dGB, i flashed the hboot right over it without making a backup of nandroid. now it is stuck on startup with the htc bootscreen and it won't go any further than that. what can i do? i tried to restore with the backup i made after rooting/s-off, but it is still stuck on bootscreen. does any of you know how i can solve this. please help.

 

[Hadron]

Which hboot? If it was the dGB one no ROM other than dGB will fit (so restoring another backup will fail). Change hboot again if you want to use a different ROM. Or erase all partitions and flash dGB from scratch.

Sometimes people get away with changing hboot without the nandroid restore, but in general this is what will happen.

Sorry, but

 

[dragon181988]

Which hboot? If it was the dGB one no ROM other than dGB will fit (so restoring another backup will fail). Change hboot again if you want to use a different ROM. Or erase all partitions and flash dGB from scratch.

Sometimes people get away with changing hboot without the nandroid restore, but in general this is what will happen.

Sorry, but

yes it is the 60mb hboot of dGB. could you explane how i can get it working again? i like to keep dGB but then working offcource. with the hboot of 60mb of dGB. please anwer as soon as possible. my friend is really lossing it right now.

 

[Hadron]

The problem is that your ROM and data are fouled up. Changing the hboot moves the internal storage partition boundaries, which usually corrupts the contents, so you need to reload the new partitions by restoring a nandroid. That's what went wrong. The stock nandroid doesn't work with the dGB hboot because the /system partition is too small for the stock ROM.

You can get a clean copy of dGB on by going into recovery, erasing everything (i.e. format system, cache, data) and then flashing the ROM. The phone will then work, but you have to set up from scratch. If your app/data backups (Titanium etc) are up to date that is the simplest solution (remember that with dGB you also need to set up APNs for mobile data, so either these must be backed-up with an APN backup app or you set them manually).

If your backups are not up to date, and you have a more recent nandroid, you can flash a stock hboot (from alpharev.nl), restore that nandroid, then make your app/data backups, then install and set up dGB, take a nandroid, change hboot, restore nandroid.

 

[dragon181988]

The problem is that your ROM and data are fouled up. Changing the hboot moves the internal storage partition boundaries, which usually corrupts the contents, so you need to reload the new partitions by restoring a nandroid. That's what went wrong. The stock nandroid doesn't work with the dGB hboot because the /system partition is too small for the stock ROM.

You can get a clean copy of dGB on by going into recovery, erasing everything (i.e. format system, cache, data) and then flashing the ROM. The phone will then work, but you have to set up from scratch. If your app/data backups (Titanium etc) are up to date that is the simplest solution (remember that with dGB you also need to set up APNs for mobile data, so either these must be backed-up with an APN backup app or you set them manually).

how do i format system with Amonra recovery?

If your backups are not up to date, and you have a more recent nandroid, you can flash a stock hboot (from alpharev.nl), restore that nandroid, then make your app/data backups, then install and set up dGB, take a nandroid, change hboot, restore nandroid.

this sound the most simple way.
1. to just get the stock hboot,
2. flash it as i did with the custom hboot
3. restore to old backup
4. root and s-off again?
5. backup
6. reflash dGB
7. backup
8. flash custom hboot
9. restore

do i have to do it this way? thanks for helping me btw.

 

[Hadron]

how do i format system with Amonra recovery?

I've never used Amon Ra, but it's in most recoveries somewhere. Formatting system is the least important anyway, as flashing the ROM should do that for you (unlike data and cache, which it won't)

this sound the most simple way.
1. to just get the stock hboot,
2. flash it as i did with the custom hboot
3. root and s-off again?
4. backup
5. reflash dGB
6. backup
7. flash custom hboot
8. restore

do i have to do it this way? thanks for helping me btw.

You do not need to root and S-Off again. As long as you have a custom recovery you don't need to worry about root (unless your stock nandroid was taken before rooting, in which case if you want to take a Ti backup from that then you will need to root after restoring). As long as you use a stock hboot from alpharev you will still be S-Off (it's the same hboot you had before installing the dGB one).

So your procedure seems basically right, but just to be clear about the different types of backup:

If you want to take an app/data backup from your existing nandroid:
1. to just get the stock hboot,
2. flash it as i did with the custom hboot
3. restore the stock nandroid backup
4. backup apps and data
5. reflash dGB
5a restore apps & data, set up ROM
6. nandroid backup
7. flash custom hboot
8. restore dGB nandroid

with my edits in italic

If your existing app/data backups are already OK, then:
1. wipe cache, data from recovery (system if can find it in recovery menu)
2. reflash dGB
3. restore apps & data, set up ROM

 

[dragon181988]

I've never used Amon Ra, but it's in most recoveries somewhere. Formatting system is the least important anyway, as flashing the ROM should do that for you (unlike data and cache, which it won't)
You do not need to root and S-Off again. As long as you have a custom recovery you don't need to worry about root (unless your stock nandroid was taken before rooting, in which case if you want to take a Ti backup from that then you will need to root after restoring). As long as you use a stock hboot from alpharev you will still be S-Off (it's the same hboot you had before installing the dGB one).

So your procedure seems basically right, but just to be clear about the different types of backup:

If you want to take an app/data backup from your existing nandroid:
1. to just get the stock hboot,
2. flash it as i did with the custom hboot
3. restore the stock nandroid backup
4. backup apps and data
5. reflash dGB
5a restore apps & data, set up ROM
6. nandroid backup
7. flash custom hboot
8. restore dGB nandroid

with my edits in italic

If your existing app/data backups are already OK, then:
1. wipe cache, data from recovery (system if can find it in recovery menu)
2. reflash dGB
3. restore apps & data, set up ROM

oke thanks i'll give it a go. i'll let you know when it works.

 

[Hadron]

Check the md5 of the stock hboot (if you go that way) before flashing.

 

[dragon181988]

hadron,

so far i got it working again, but when i try the hboot of 60mb again it gets stock on the bootscreen again. and this time i made a backup, i was able to restore back to it after getting the stock hboot flashed on it again . can you solve the problem for me of not being able to use the 60mb hboot with the dGB rom? i have the rom running with the stock hboot now will keep on doing that untill i can get a solution.

btw thanks for your help, my friend is better now that the phone is running again.

 

[Hadron]

dGB should fit fine in the 60 MB hboot unless you've made any modifications to /system (moved any apps there, flashed a larger kernel or done any theming). To check, install Quick System Info and use it to see how much space you are using in "System storage". If it's less than 60MB used you should be OK, so in that case can you tell us exactly what you did to install it.

I actually use the 65MB dGB hboot because I have themed mine a bit and so my ROM actually takes 60.45 MB now. That might also be worth trying.