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Battery sucked b4, but wow...REALLY sux on JB

the reason i still have the phone is because i have two options:

1. Keep it
2. Trade it for a Razr.

The razr is a downgrade in hardware in my opinion thus i still have the Nexus.

I didn't realize the JB OTA was pushed to sprint. I was assuming it didn't because i didn't see it on the Factory Image site at google.


I politely disagree that going back to an ICS rom is crazy. There are some really really good ICS roms out there that make the phone just as fast as Project Butter. If i have to turn the features off in JB to get better battery life then i may as well go to a rom that doesn't even have the features in it.
 
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Toro Plus? If i'm not mistaken that is a custom Rom correct? As in JB hasn't been pushed officially to the Sprint version. If so then that is probably the reason yours differs so much. Also are you using LTE?


Everyone else in here is referring to the official version that Verizon pushed to their device in the last week i believe.

I have horrible battery life. Also i refuse to turn anything off. If you give me new features then those new features should not impact my device as a phone.

I'm highly considering going back to an ICS rom until something gets better on JB. Even with running Leankernel over stock it still is horrible.
I'm running the official update from Sprint. The only difference is I manually changed the images of the soft keys in SystemUI myself. Other than that, though, it is most definitely the official update. As stated, we got 4.1 officially before you guys on Verizon even did.
 
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By the way. Other than device specific binaries, there is no difference building off of AOSP source than there is from the official updates. The phone runs AOSP either way. This would not have made any difference in battery life. I also do not turn off any features other than LED notifications, as I find them useless for my usage habits.

Just wipe and install clean, and don't set every little thing to auto update, auto push, auto refresh constantly. Sure, use the features, but use them in a battery conserving way if battery life is your complaint. Sometimes you can't have it all.

I myself found a perfect median for myself where I can use the phone as I please and am more than satisfied with my daily battery life.
 
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Any feedback would be appreciated -

I'm running Codenameandroid ROM and most used apps are -
Sirius
Radio.com
Google Music
EMail Apps
SMS

I am using Extended battery.

Here's my latest screenshot -

screenshot2012092709453.jpg


I have tried 3 different ROMS in the last 2 weeks.

I wiped my phone before installing CNA

Getting more than 4 hours is a rarity....
 
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I have not used any new features and battery is dying before work is over. with about 10 minutes of talk time and 20-30 of screen on. That is just unacceptable.

As a test I left unplugged overnight. In 9.5 hours, I went from 100% to 84% with no use at all. While that is very bad, it's still not as bad as the rate i'm losing all 100%.

I don't know what to do. May take to Verizon, but I know they will just want to wipe the phone. Then same problem will happen, except all of my files, pics, and apps will be gone. Ideas?

Can you post your battery screenshots like above? Usually that can give a lot of insight into the problem. Also make sure to include talk time, screen time and time without signal (under cell standby).
 
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Any feedback would be appreciated -

I'm running Codenameandroid ROM and most used apps are -
Sirius
Radio.com
Google Music
EMail Apps
SMS

I am using Extended battery.

Here's my latest screenshot -

screenshot2012092709453.jpg


I have tried 3 different ROMS in the last 2 weeks.

I wiped my phone before installing CNA

Getting more than 4 hours is a rarity....

Post more of the battery screens especially the graph page, screen on, etc.

How many hours were you streaming and how much screen on time? What is your brightness set to?

My guess is you were streaming over cellular with a lot of screen on time.
 
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the reason i still have the phone is because i have two options:

1. Keep it
2. Trade it for a Razr.

The razr is a downgrade in hardware in my opinion thus i still have the Nexus.

I didn't realize the JB OTA was pushed to sprint. I was assuming it didn't because i didn't see it on the Factory Image site at google.


I politely disagree that going back to an ICS rom is crazy. There are some really really good ICS roms out there that make the phone just as fast as Project Butter. If i have to turn the features off in JB to get better battery life then i may as well go to a rom that doesn't even have the features in it.

Why don't you just try turning off Google now and seeing if that solves the problem? At least you will know that was the issue....
 
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I have not used any new features and battery is dying before work is over. with about 10 minutes of talk time and 20-30 of screen on. That is just unacceptable.

As a test I left unplugged overnight. In 9.5 hours, I went from 100% to 84% with no use at all. While that is very bad, it's still not as bad as the rate i'm losing all 100%.

If I understood it correctly, that should mean 1.684% battery drain per hour. And you consider that's bad?:thinking: Not sure if it was with WiFi or 3G, but either way that's not bad at all.

Even if you are not using Google now, you need to check map/location settings under your google account. And make sure things like latitude, location history are unchecked if you are not using them.
You also mentioned using Kakao Talk messenger app. That one in default setting is known battery hog if you have a lot of friends contacts in it. You'd better disable auto friends adding, contact sync. You can always manually refresh friends/contacts in the app.
 
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You also mentioned using Kakao Talk messenger app. That one in default setting is known battery hog if you have a lot of friends contacts in it. You'd better disable auto friends adding, contact sync. You can always manually refresh friends/contacts in the app.

I've come across at least one other person complaining of battery drain who had that Kakao talk app running. I agree that its a possible issue.
 
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If I understood it correctly, that should mean 1.684% battery drain per hour. And you consider that's bad?:thinking: Not sure if it was with WiFi or 3G, but either way that's not bad at all.

Even if you are not using Google now, you need to check map/location settings under your google account. And make sure things like latitude, location history are unchecked if you are not using them.
You also mentioned using Kakao Talk messenger app. That one in default setting is known battery hog if you have a lot of friends contacts in it. You'd better disable auto friends adding, contact sync. You can always manually refresh friends/contacts in the app.

100%-84% is what i was complaining about. That is doing nothing except sleeping. My wife has iphone and 100% to sleep and wakeup about about 98%

I checked google map/location and all is off.
I have now gone in and change kakao to disable auto add and disable sync. hopefully that helps. Actually the other day I deleted kakao and reinstalled and battery has already lasted longer than before. Hopefully removing sync will be even better.

Thanks for all the help and suggestions
 
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Don't pay any attention to the drop from 100% to 90%. Its meaningless because the phone doesn't report true charge once it hits 100%. Android engineers have confirmed it and here's a blog post i wrote explaining it.
Droids 'n Things: My Battery life

In it are links to an article where the actual drain was measured as compared to displayed as well as quotes from an android engineer confirming it.

If you want to measure your idle drain start it from 90% or less and see how far it drops over night..
 
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I know this is unscientific, but after upgrading to JB last week, my first day's battery was pretty bad. The upgrade completed successfully and the phone booted up as normal. Not unexpected as I was using it quite a bit to check out the new features.

Over the following days, I tried keeping a casual eye on some things and wasn't able to get a clean picture of where I stood compared to my normal usage (which I got 20+hrs easily). But my impressions were that I was getting closer to 10-12hrs now.

Over the weekend, something strange happened and I just decided to do a reboot. When I powered down and powered back up, I got the message that Android was upgrading.

Initial WTF has now been replaced by WOW. I'm back getting the same battery life I was before. Sure, GPS will kill the battery pretty quick. Screen on time will kill things pretty quick, but other than that, I'm back to my 20-24hr typical usage uptime. I keep 4G on, WiFi on, Bluetooth on, Google now is on, GPS on with all boxes checked. Only thing I don't do is Latitude.

So while this probably won't affect most, at least try a reboot to see if it fixes anything for you.
 
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Honestly, this is a ridiculous statement. I don't mean to be offensive, but it just is utter nonsense.

They gave you new features which, IF YOU CHOOSE TO USE, will result in shorter battery life. Many of the Google Now features rely on location services and background data.... both of which use power. To say that adding new features that use more power is unacceptable is just silly.

These are optional features that you can choose to use or not use. The tradeoff is battery life. Just like streaming music. Google music lets you stream your music..... but streaming from the cloud uses power. So you choose.... stream from the cloud and limit your battery life or store music locally on the device and limit your playlists.

The idea that you'd rather go back to an ICS ROM than simply turn off features of Google Now is just one of the more ridiculous things I've read here.

I had to +1 this......
 
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Over the weekend, something strange happened and I just decided to do a reboot. When I powered down and powered back up, I got the message that Android was upgrading.

This happened to me too. It was doing android update again on the second reboot after JB update. But I didn't have any battery issue after JB update.

I read on other forums that battery with JB should be a little better or the same as ICS as long as you don't use Latitude, any settings tracking/sharing your locations even with Google Now in use.
 
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Google Now made a clear impact to my battery life. My phone generally goes about 36 hours before I charge it, and after the update, it would go about 24 hours with similar usage.

Turning Google Now off, and it was back to the 36 on average.

I'm guessing the OP has a Verizon phone though, since he is just now noticing JB aspects. The Verizon phone seems to have much worse battery life on average than the GSM one. At least judging by the general threads here.

So for the folks with posts like this, I am curious. Are you all really away from a charger often for periods LONGER than 24 hours? I mean, this happens often? If so, I can understand this dialogue. If not, why not use Google Now? I love it and find it awfully useful. I don't NEED 36 hours of battery life. Of course, others may and obviously that is a different need set for a phone ..
 
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i suffer no hardships doing this -

Battery Tips for Android

1. Toggle off LTE, WIFI, GPS, BT, NFC, Hotspot. Toggle on as needed.
2. Display Brightness - Turn off Auto Brightness and Reduce Setting Bar to Minimum.
3. Sign out of Google Latitude, GTalk, G+, Google Now, and Messenger. Disable Location Reporting/History.
4. Beware of constantly syncing Apps and Bloatware like Facebook, Twitter, News, Non-Push Email, etc. Set Sync interval for every 1 hour or more.
5. Turn off keyboard haptic feedback.
6. Don't use Live Wallpaper. Use dark wallpaper if possible.
7. Set Display Sleep Setting to 2 Minutes or Less.
8. Set WIFI to Always stay on during Sleep if you regularly use WIFI.
9. Turn off vibrate for Emails.
10. Be careful of using too many live widgets.
11. Sync Exchange Emails 30 Days or less.
12. Do NOT use a Task Killer App.
 
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i suffer no hardships doing this -

Battery Tips for Android

1. Toggle off LTE, WIFI, GPS, BT, NFC, Hotspot. Toggle on as needed.
2. Display Brightness - Turn off Auto Brightness and Reduce Setting Bar to Minimum.
3. Sign out of Google Latitude, GTalk, G+, Google Now, and Messenger. Disable Location Reporting/History.
4. Beware of constantly syncing Apps and Bloatware like Facebook, Twitter, News, Non-Push Email, etc. Set Sync interval for every 1 hour or more.
5. Turn off keyboard haptic feedback.
6. Don't use Live Wallpaper. Use dark wallpaper if possible.
7. Set Display Sleep Setting to 2 Minutes or Less.
8. Set WIFI to Always stay on during Sleep if you regularly use WIFI.
9. Turn off vibrate for Emails.
10. Be careful of using too many live widgets.
11. Sync Exchange Emails 30 Days or less.
12. Do NOT use a Task Killer App.

On the other hand ... I don't do any of this and also suffer no hardships. This is a smartphone after all, and if I disable all of the cool features that connect me then, well, what's the point IMO...

I just have a 2nd battery that I rarely use, but do use on the rare occasion that I am both away from a charger for a long period and I run out of battery.
 
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On the other hand ... I don't do any of this and also suffer no hardships. This is a smartphone after all, and if I disable all of the cool features that connect me then, well, what's the point IMO...

i'm so tired of that "what's the point?" argument. the point is that you can still use your phone and all of its features. but you only toggle on certain services when you need them - as opposed to letting them run all the time 24/7 and wasting your battery.

do you leave your lights and TV on 24/7? do you run the water in your shower 24/7? no. you turn them on as needed to conserve resources. same principle.
 
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i suffer no hardships doing this -

Battery Tips for Android

1. Toggle off LTE, WIFI, GPS, BT, NFC, Hotspot. Toggle on as needed.
2. Display Brightness - Turn off Auto Brightness and Reduce Setting Bar to Minimum.
3. Sign out of Google Latitude, GTalk, G+, Google Now, and Messenger. Disable Location Reporting/History.
4. Beware of constantly syncing Apps and Bloatware like Facebook, Twitter, News, Non-Push Email, etc. Set Sync interval for every 1 hour or more.
5. Turn off keyboard haptic feedback.
6. Don't use Live Wallpaper. Use dark wallpaper if possible.
7. Set Display Sleep Setting to 2 Minutes or Less.
8. Set WIFI to Always stay on during Sleep if you regularly use WIFI.
9. Turn off vibrate for Emails.
10. Be careful of using too many live widgets.
11. Sync Exchange Emails 30 Days or less.
12. Do NOT use a Task Killer App.

I think that's a good list of everything that you can do to maximize battery life. Some of it may be overkill for people, but its good to have a list like that to work from.

Personally I go with the following:
1. Display Brightness - Turn off Auto Brightness and use widgetsoid to create a custom toggle widget. Settings 10% - 30% - 70%. 10% in dark areas. 30% for normal indoor usage. 70% for bright sunlight.
2. Sign out of Google Latitude and G+. Disable location dependent features of Google Now (nearby places)
3. Disable syncing on Apps and Bloatware like Facebook, Twitter, News. For Non-Push Email, set Sync interval for every 1 hour or more.
4. Don't use Live Wallpaper. Use BLACK wallpaper.
5. Set Display Sleep Setting to 1 Minute.
6. Set WIFI to Always stay on unless you spend extended periods in NO-WiFi areas (like no wifi in your office all day) then turn it off.
7. Sync non-gmail Emails 30 Days or less.

*** Do NOT use a Task Killer App.
EVER. That's not even a battery tip, that's an Android tip. Yes, occasionally an app will get hung up. In that case go through settings to the app and force stop it. Task killers are asking for trouble.
 
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i'm so tired of that "what's the point?" argument. the point is that you can still use your phone and all of its features. but you only toggle on certain services when you need them - as opposed to letting them run all the time 24/7 and wasting your battery.

do you leave your lights and TV on 24/7? do you run the water in your shower 24/7? no. you turn them on as needed to conserve resources. same principle.

Those are silly examples. I don't pay to keep my phone's services working like I would for electricity. It's not at all the same principle.

Going though all of the toggles and settings every time I need something, and not being notified promptly of things I want is just utterly and completely unnecessary - FOR ME. If you are fine with toggling things all day - just so you can do the same things I do all day without all the fussing , than I guess it works for you.

All I am saying is that for the folks who cannot be by chargers and need really long battery life, the settings and toggles you mention can certainly help. For others - like me - these are completely unnecessary and would result in a phone experience I don't want with a smartphone.
 
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