Boost's October ToS change kills ROOT!

[mydian]

ToS states throttling after 2.5 GB a month regardless. I would expect accounts like yours to be reviewed for being excessive.

Boost throttles 4G after 2.5GB, not 3G. My phone is 3G only, and I've never had a problem.

I watch TV with an app downloaded from Google Play that was released by my Cable Provider. They can review that all they want.

I also never said that I do it, I only said that I could. I use around 5GB a month on average.

 

[kevincott]

Boost throttles 4G after 2.5GB, not 3G. My phone is 3G only, and I've never had a problem.

I watch TV with an app downloaded from Google Play that was released by my Cable Provider. They can review that all they want.

I also never said that I do it, I only said that I could. I use around 5GB a month on average.

Pretty sure both 3G and 4G are warned of throttling.


edit: Throttling was a topic a while back in the Prevail (3G) lounge.

 

[mydian]

I'll have to check that out. I have never received a warning, and the only thing I found about throttling on Boost's webpage is 4G is throttled to 3G speeds after 2.5GB.


edit: and if they ever do start messing with 3G I'll switch to Tmobile I guess.

 

[guyphs]

Fwiw the throttle is just that they reserve the right to throttle without notice. I haven't experienced any throttling whatsoever when going over 2.5gv

 

[Androidjerr]

Has anyone else got the new ToS from Boost stating:

No class suits

No ROOT

No Mods

No Tethering without an approved device and plan payment

and the worst one "SUSPECTED" root or tethering is grounds for termination without means of reinstatement for users NOT GUILTY....

In other words, they can claim they thought you violated the terms, and even if you have not done so you have no recourse.

Boost can now boot anyone off their network without showing just cause, and it is not up for debate...

What do you all think about the new ToS?

easy to fix just have to remove the reporting services and RATs

 

[lucky013]

This is also the first Boost Mobile device enabled with built-in mobile hotspot functionality allowing up to five Wi-Fi enabled devices to share the 3G or 4G experience on the go with a laptop, camera, music player, game unit, video player, or any other Wi-Fi enabled device. Use of this feature requires an additional fee of $10 per month.

Later this year, in order to provide the best value and customer experience, Boost Mobile will move to reduce 3G/4G data speeds to 3G speeds of 256kbps when a customer

 

[dthomas510]

I just saw this on the Boost Mobile Facebook page and thought I would share it with everyone here, in case they didn't see it there. I am not sure if this is all of the changes that are going to be made, but it is what a Boost rep responded to someones question about the ToS.




Boost Mobile Hi Philip, here are all the new charges in our terms & conditions. "Usage Charges"- Rates that vary based on the time of access will be determined based on the location of the network equipment providing service and not the location of your Device or your Device

 

[mikecintel]

I just saw this on the Boost Mobile Facebook page and thought I would share it with everyone here, in case they didn't see it there. I am not sure if this is all of the changes that are going to be made, but it is what a Boost rep responded to someones question about the ToS.




Boost Mobile Hi Philip, here are all the new charges in our terms & conditions. "Usage Charges"- Rates that vary based on the time of access will be determined based on the location of the network equipment providing service and not the location of your Device or your Device

 

[dthomas510]

Hi dthmoas510,

Thanks for the post but what does this mean "Call time for a single call may be limited If the call exceeds the limit, then it may be automatically terminated."

I though Boost Mobile is UNLIMITED talk. I wounder what is the limit on the phone to talk now and that it will be LIMITED talk instead of Unlimited talk. Oh well I want a NEW phone anyway and I am about to change carriers to ATT and then be on a contract for 1 year (Hopefully they don't eliminate the 1 year contract on their website) and after the contract is over I will ask them to UNLOCK the GSM phone and then switch back to a prepaid wireless company like Straight Talk or SIMPLE Mobile to save money.

I am thinking that this pertains to the Pay-as-you-go plan as to all the other plans are unlimited, as you stated

 

[mikecintel]

I am thinking that this pertains to the Pay-as-you-go plan as to all the other plans are unlimited, as you stated

Maybe let's see what happens when the terms and conditions are in effected on Nov 4,2012. Hopefully it does not pertains to Unlimited monthly plans.

 

[guyphs]

Has anyone else got the new ToS from Boost stating:

No class suits

No ROOT

No Mods

No Tethering without an approved device and plan payment

and the worst one "SUSPECTED" root or tethering is grounds for termination without means of reinstatement for users NOT GUILTY....

In other words, they can claim they thought you violated the terms, and even if you have not done so you have no recourse.

Boost can now boot anyone off their network without showing just cause, and it is not up for debate...

What do you all think about the new ToS?

As far as I know, all that was already included in the TOS. In the TOS effective August of 2011, they can terminate your service for whatever reason they want to, no class actions, etc.

 

[cartersball]

As far as I know, all that was already included in the TOS. In the TOS effective August of 2011, they can terminate your service for whatever reason they want to, no class actions, etc.

All of the things being discussed here have been in the ToS for over a year now. The new ToS will be posted on 11/4

 

[ZingBot]

All of the things being discussed here have been in the ToS for over a year now. The new ToS will be posted on 11/4

I noticed the new Advance Payment thing is starting on 11/4...so the new ToS must have something to do with that at least

 

[Trancenstuff]

i rooted MY boost guys phone the other day, just sayin. he works there and says they are not worried about it..it is mainly to keep people from breaking stuff, and covering THEMSELVES if they do. Not to mention they know they have no control over a rooted phone. I dont use tether for internet, i have xfinity at home with really good connection, i just use it at work to make my kindle happy, and i did try to pay them instead, they just wouldnt give it to me. im not worried about them going after me either.

 

[Rover_Cellular]

I am thinking that this pertains to the Pay-as-you-go plan as to all the other plans are unlimited, as you stated

I worked at a store a couple years back (Prepaid & Misc crap) a Boost customer was shut off for "Using excessive Minutes" He used somewhere around 1000 minute in a weekend. He was super angry, had just got set up like a week before. Like the data I think they have a limit on Minute usage. Now this was a couple years ago so things might have changed.

Have not seen anything like that since then.

 

[albanymike]

I just buy the 5 dollar insurance and if its rooted and messes up i'll call and say it was stolen. they will never know it was rooted! 5 bucks times 12 is 60 plus 65 deductible so 120 for a new phone. even thought there going for 100.oo lol

 

[lucky013]

I just buy the 5 dollar insurance and if its rooted and messes up i'll call and say it was stolen. they will never know it was rooted! 5 bucks times 12 is 60 plus 65 deductible so 120 for a new phone. even thought there going for 100.oo lol

Devious. I might even say smart or genius but that is just an example as to where this thread is headed. Disaster.

 

[cjreyes666]

I just buy the 5 dollar insurance and if its rooted and messes up i'll call and say it was stolen. they will never know it was rooted! 5 bucks times 12 is 60 plus 65 deductible so 120 for a new phone. even thought there going for 100.oo lol

I dont really believe on the insurance really depends on the person. But when it comes to messing something due to rooting never had an issue. I have rooted phones the easy way (OG Droid one click) and the hard way (Thunderbolt adb) and never had problems. The only time we had to send a phone was for a warranty claim for my wife's OG Droid, unrooted the phone and send it in.

 

[TgMichael]

I guess if you think about it, they can have people check out the forums, xda, ect, and see what people are doing. They can use these sites like we do. Really now, they have people that are paid to figure stuff out. Now if one or two are doing rooting or whatever, no big deal. Now if alot of people are then they need to try to stop it. Some of the updates were prolly to break root and did. the smarter of us figure out how to get around that, and now the smarter of them are trying to work around us, trying to beat us at our game. It's like a war going on. You don't hear about this stuff going on in the beggining, then as more phones being sold and data sky rocketting, well they want it to stop. The main reason is now that they have you addicted to greatness, well, upgrade and pay them more money,YES, ALL ABOUT THE MONEY. That is how I see it.

Lolz

 

[ZingBot]

Has anybody figured out what is different in the new 11/4/2012 ToS ?

 

[PH8AL]

CAN WE PLEASE STOP TALKING FOR A SEC ABOUT WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE TOS(CONTRACT)

And for one second talk about the fact that all Boost Customers were sold packaging that claimed

NO CONTRACT

UNLIMITED VOICE DATA AND TEXT

to be told on deliverance we agreed to an implied contract labeled as a TOS which then claims to be a CONTRACT.

Its an implied contract which is illegal. It is also an unfair contract for the following reasons other than you were lied to

It gives all power in the contract to one party by limiting arbitration

Boost threatens action if you use this product/ service in a manner they advertised as a function/feature.

Im not a lawyer, Im in construction and deal with contracts/contract law damn near daily.

The fact every company does this is why as long as Boost did not start dicking with me I let the bullshit go.

When are people in this country going to finally get off their fat asses and tell AMERICA INC. that the anal rape is over.

This is so much a bigger issue.

Off to cast my vote that doesn't matter y'all get back to enjoying economic slavery.

 

[guyphs]

CAN WE PLEASE STOP TALKING FOR A SEC ABOUT WHAT HAS CHANGED IN THE TOS(CONTRACT)

And for one second talk about the fact that all Boost Customers were sold packaging that claimed

NO CONTRACT

UNLIMITED VOICE DATA AND TEXT

to be told on deliverance we agreed to an implied contract labeled as a TOS which then claims to be a CONTRACT.

Its an implied contract which is illegal. It is also an unfair contract for the following reasons other than you were lied to

It gives all power in the contract to one party by limiting arbitration

Boost threatens action if you use this product/ service in a manner they advertised as a function/feature.

Im not a lawyer, Im in construction and deal with contracts/contract law damn near daily.

The fact every company does this is why as long as Boost did not start dicking with me I let the bullshit go.

When are people in this country going to finally get off their fat asses and tell AMERICA INC. that the anal rape is over.

This is so much a bigger issue.

Off to cast my vote that doesn't matter y'all get back to enjoying economic slavery.

Contracts of adhesion are a fact of life. I'm sure that by getting on here and posting a message we all are probably agreeing to the terms of half a dozen different contracts - isp, Google, android forums, etc. I don't know a great deal about these particular provisions except that they are pretty common for this sort of a thing. There have to be some terms that even the friendliest tos would have to have in it, otherwise they wouldn't be able to conduct business at all.

That being said, just because this is the TOS doesn't mean they actually enforce it like that. Legally, it's just them covering their butts so they can act if they have to. Like they've had it in their tos that they will disable your service if you root but I haven't heard of anyone getting cut for rooting.

Don't get me wrong, I understand where you're coming from. I switched because tmobile starting charging an extra 15 bucks for tethering, and contacts like this give the consumer as little power as possible, but the only alternative is just not to have a phone basically.

 

[PH8AL]

Mods can one of you merge my thread about this into this one?

http://androidforums.com/boost-mobile/643766-boost-mobile-can-kiss-off.html

I originally posted it in my phones root forum and it was moved to this forum where it is pretty well a duplicate.

Or can you move it back where I intended it to be because I wasn't trying to speak to the broader site just my friends to let them know why I am no longer working on any thing with this phone or contributing to that forum.

Thank You and sorry if I sound pissed, its not you.

 

[TyranTxHD]

Some peeps are tethering excessively and some others brick their phones while rooting and try to get warrantee work.

Boost or any carrier can be harmed by rooters.

Only carriers here because in the UK I have read that they are allowed to root and install custom ROMS without violating any rules.

 

[ColoradoNative]

I had my last warp rooted and it died in hot water, bag of rice didn't even help. :-( . Did the insurance. No problems. $50. Brand new phone.