Help headphone whine with ICS

[dave1812]

If you thought the headphone whine was bad at Bionic launch last year, the ICS whine is far worse.

 

[YaMoBeThere]

I have the whining issue as well, no dropped 4g though.

 

[dave1812]

I have the whining issue as well, no dropped 4g though.

Verizon is sending me a Razr Maxx. If I don't like that one, I'll buy a newer phone such as the Note 2, most likely UNLESS the retail price is in the stratosphere.

 

[acejavelin]

PLUS, now I'm getting kicked down to 3G service where I normally have 4G 99% of the time and where another bionic is showing 4G at the same moment. I did a SIM card removal to get 4G back. sigh. this is the same BS we Bionic users have been experiencing since day one. So much for "ICS will fix 4G issues". HA!

Stupid question... did you factory default after getting the OTA update? I would try that first, after just going through this and helping dozens of users in the Rezound forum (went from GB to ICS two months ago), a factory reset fixed "strange" issues 98% of the time.

 

[acejavelin]

i guess u aren't familiar with the whine that was present last year? resets aren't the answer. a different phone, or waiting and hoping that the NEXT update fixes it, are the only solutions.

True, my son's Bionic never experienced this issue... but I would still try a factory reset first. If it wasn't there before the ICS update, then it is there, and most other people are not experiencing it, it wouldn't hurt to try. Then again, a free Moto Razr isn't a bad deal...

 

[dave1812]

True, my son's Bionic never experienced this issue... but I would still try a factory reset first. If it wasn't there before the ICS update, then it is there, and most other people are not experiencing it, it wouldn't hurt to try. Then again, a free Moto Razr isn't a bad deal...

yeah, I like the screen a bit better on the Razr line. besides which, I may end up with a Sammy pretty soon anyway. my only expense will be $10 for a shell/holster from Amazon, which I just ordered. of course I won't be able to use the car dock but I hardly used it anyway.

 

[Thom]

True, my son's Bionic never experienced this issue... but I would still try a factory reset first. If it wasn't there before the ICS update, then it is there, and most other people are not experiencing it, it wouldn't hurt to try. Then again, a free Moto Razr isn't a bad deal...

I agree ... try a Factory Data Reset after the ICS install.

I disagree ... hold out for a Razr Maxx HD.

... Thom

 

[dave1812]

I agree ... try a Factory Data Reset after the ICS install.

I disagree ... hold out for a Razr Maxx HD.

... Thom

no way I'm going to spend a few hours reinstalling and setting everything up. I GUARANTEE that it will not fix the whine.

 

[wildkitten]

I had no whine before and no whine now and got my Bionic nearly a year ago. The only thing I have ever noticed is when I plug the line in to my car radio, I hear some faint garble which after listening carefully sounds like the built in FM radio bleeding through, but completely disappears when I am on a call or have an app going. Nothing during a call.

It's always possible that your Bionic is just a bad unit. Every product has them. If you believe it's a hardware issue, I don't know why you would want a Razr as, except for the screen and case, it's identical.

 

[Thom]

no way I'm going to spend a few hours reinstalling and setting everything up. I GUARANTEE that it will not fix the whine.

Since you are going to be sitting there with a Razr Maxx and a Bionic and are going to be removing everything from the Bionic. How about doing us all a favor and check out the problem after you do the Factory Data Reset on the Bionic (before you return it)?

... Thom

 

[dautley]

I had no whine before and no whine now and got my Bionic nearly a year ago.

I don't have the problem either but all Bionics aren't the same, apparently this is a real problem for some.

 

[wildkitten]

I don't have the problem either but all Bionics aren't the same, apparently this is a real problem for some.

Oh I know, and every product has it's "bad batches". No way to escape that.

My point is not to talk as if it's an issue for "every" Bionic. Because if someone really believes that this is a hardware issue that affects every Bionic, then not sure why they would want the Razr/Razr Maxx as, except for the screen and case, it's identical, so a person would have to believe the issue would exist in that phone as well.

 

[dautley]

Different versions of the CPU and other chips in different batches of phones. That's why some people get the 200Ghz speed bump and some don't. I would expect this has something to do with the headphone whine as well.

 

[wildkitten]

You don't know the history of the problem AND the history of MY comments about this issue, based on what you just wrote IF you are alluding to me. Last year when this problem was prevalent before the first bionic update, I never said it was a hardware issue. OTHER people did (the "engineer types") and what I had said at the time was to WAIT FOR THE UPDATE. the update, in December, fixed the issue. it is NOT hardware per se. it is a synergistic issue BETWEEN the device and the OS.

My point is how you phrased things. In the other thread you say...
"...gave us back headphone whine..." and in this thread you say, "...Damn Moto for releasing this update with the whine put back into the software...".

Sorry, they didn't "give us" back the whine as not everyone has it, and I seriously doubt that Motorola intentionally tried to make some flaw in the phone with the whine through the software update.

I honestly believe you have a flawed phone. These things happen. When I bough some new memory from my computer, the RAM I ordered was bad. The company was reputable, Newegg is obviously reputable, it's just that these things happen. Of course Verizon should bend over backwards to help you out, and that is the thing I hate about Verizon is how they seem to be anti-customer in this past year, year and a half.

 

[PowerBomb]

For me, no headphone whine, no dropping to 3G, and no the notification bar icons are not harder to read just because they're blue now (as per the complaint in your other thread). I'm no expert but it makes zero sense to me that a software update could make changes to a headphone jack and bring the whine back or make it worse. I'm sure if it were a prevalent problem, they would have worked on it during all these past weeks that they were trying to get ICS builds approved by Verizon. Must just be your device. Try different headphones?

 

[Satires]

If you thought the headphone whine was bad at Bionic launch last year, the ICS whine is far worse. Even using an attenuator doesn't help; nor does changing the various wired sound settings. Damn Moto for releasing this update with the whine put back into the software and damn Verizon for not noticing/caring. Kick me in the ass if I ever buy another Moto phone. Seriously, this is beyond belief.

Quick question. I'm curious if you were ever on the .232 leak? If so, did the headphone whine exist then?

 

[wildkitten]

it's not just my phone. do a search for all the major Bionic forums online, from last September. I'm not going to argue with you about it.

I'm not saying it's just your phone. However, it's not every either which you seem to imply with your "us" and Motorola put the "whine put back into the software" comments.

Obviously there was an issue with maybe a batch of headphone jacks or maybe sound chips which could have affected an entire run. But it's certainly not something that all Bionic's siffer from or Motorola intentionally introduced.

 

[dave1812]

Quick question. I'm curious if you were ever on the .232 leak? If so, did the headphone whine exist then?

i dont do leaks. my phone is not a hobby.

 

[Satires]

i dont do leaks. my phone is not a hobby.

Just figured I would ask. It just made sense to me to run a reversable leak to try it out first before taking any updates to try and avoid the issues you are having now.

 

[Spiritus Mundi]

I'm getting the headphone whine as well. I listen to alot of music on my phone and it was never an issue till now. Also, I performed a factory reset before updating and afterwards (overkill?). I didn't experience this with my original Bionic last year but I remember it being an issue.

 

[dave1812]

Just figured I would ask. It just made sense to me to run a reversable leak to try it out first before taking any updates to try and avoid the issues you are having now.

no problem. I know it is inevitable that I'll have to install updates (the nag screens drive me nuts!), so i simply waited til OTA and installed immediately as there's no way to avoid being bombarded by the nagging, that I know of. I hope the Maxx works out and if it doesn't I'm switching to Sammy. I put up with the whining in the headphones for months (ameliorated by the attenuation option in my QC15's) and am not about to keep this thing now that the attenuation can't resolve the higher amount of whine introduced by ICS. (not to mention other features I don't like in it). some features are better, but for me, some of them are not so hot.

 

[Spiritus Mundi]

I had taken it to VZW over the weekend because the data drops had become unbearable, fading in and out by the minute. Seeing as how my warranty is up in three weeks I thought it best to rule out any hardware issues before the update. They swapped my SIM card and told me to wait for the update to see if it corrected the problem. Since updating I'm still experiencing drops, although not nearly at the same frequency. I'll be taking it back this weekend which is unfortunate because, performance-wise, ICS has turned this into a new phone.

 

[dave1812]

Since you are going to be sitting there with a Razr Maxx and a Bionic and are going to be removing everything from the Bionic. How about doing us all a favor and check out the problem after you do the Factory Data Reset on the Bionic (before you return it)?

... Thom

I candothat. WillbeafewdaysbeforeIgetthereplacement

 

[Thom]

Different people have different tastes and you want the Razr. It would be nice to know for other people weather or not the FDR corrects it.

An awful lot of the problems people have seem to be corrected by a FDR. There are of course other problems not corrected.

Thanks.

... Thom

 

[Satires]

no problem. I know it is inevitable that I'll have to install updates (the nag screens drive me nuts!), so i simply waited til OTA and installed immediately as there's no way to avoid being bombarded by the nagging, that I know of. I hope the Maxx works out and if it doesn't I'm switching to Sammy. I put up with the whining in the headphones for months (ameliorated by the attenuation option in my QC15's) and am not about to keep this thing now that the attenuation can't resolve the higher amount of whine introduced by ICS. (not to mention other features I don't like in it). some features are better, but for me, some of them are not so hot.

Darn... If you was happy on gingerbread, I wish we would've met sooner... There is a way to stop an update nag. Thing is, you have to be rooted. Both my bionics are set not to receive updates. The one that's still under warranty, I did do the OTA today, but it is blocked from receiving any updates. My other bionic is and will remain on gingerbread primarily for weptop uses, it is also blocked. Of course nothing is permanent, I just renamed a couple of files and I don't get pestered to update. And if one ever slipped by, it won't install anyways. If you decide for what ever reason you don't want to update another Motorola, let me know.