Root As a rooted user, what will make you change phones?

[rogue_slc_vzw_rep]

I wanted to post this in the root forum because rooted users are a little more, say, committed to their device and have a greater understanding of what they have.

With the release of the Nexus One coming any day now and the Incredible also being released what phone will make you switch? When I look at specs and reviews for both of these very exciting looking android phones I am very tempted. My Droid does everything I need it to though. If it doesnt, I can try a new rom and see if thats what I'm needing. I can o.c. the processor to make it as fast or faster than newer android devices. I can basically do whatever the hell I want to do with my phone. With that being said I honestly do not see myself switching devices for a very very long time. Things like the car mount and media dock also make me want to keep this phone over another as well.

So what will make you switch? What do those phones do that yours doesn't, but you can possibly make do?

 

[dmodert66]

It would have to be a game change to make me switch. For instance, if I was on an older Android device with no Flash, and Flash 10.1 came out for Droid/N1, I would probably consider a switch...It would have to be something BIG...

 

[shrink57]

Voice commands over bluetooth would be an incentive - but that and flash will probably be addressable in the software and with time, will be ported over to the Droid. There are also some Milestone enhancements (audio equalizer and greatly improved camera interface) that are being worked on.

 

[gwlaw99]

HTC EVO with built in Digital television receiver and game controller dock.

 

[shadowdude777]

4G phone (obviously, I mean once 4G coverage isn't just a tiny pinpoint on the entire US map) with 4.3" screen and physical keyboard. The HTC EVO looked perfect until I noticed that I would not be able to type anything on it.

 

[CRPercodani]

HTC EVO 4G. My next phone. Do I really need to explain why? A quick reason would be it's made by HTC and that means XDA will support it which makes alldroid and other Droid dev sites look like child's play. Also after Motorola's recent statement towards root users I have no interest in supporting them any longer.

 

[toker11]

HTC EVO 4G. My next phone. Do I really need to explain why? A quick reason would be it's made by HTC and that means XDA will support it which makes alldroid and other Droid dev sites look like child's play. Also after Motorola's recent statement towards root users I have no interest in supporting them any longer.

what did they say?

 

[rogue_slc_vzw_rep]

HTC EVO 4G. My next phone. Do I really need to explain why? A quick reason would be it's made by HTC and that means XDA will support it which makes alldroid and other Droid dev sites look like child's play. Also after Motorola's recent statement towards root users I have no interest in supporting them any longer.

No need to explain. Thats actually the only phone that will tempt me as well. Will you wait for it to be on Verizon or are you jumping ship?

 

[CRPercodani]

what did they say?

Gimme a minute to find the statement.

No need to explain. Thats actually the only phone that will tempt me as well. Will you wait for it to be on Verizon or are you jumping ship?

Jumping. VZW is great but Sprint offers the exact same coverage in my home/work/play areas and at a much lower price. I have had them before and never had problems with the customer service like some have.

 

[DGalt]

the Evo with a hardware keyboard. I don't think I could ever get a phone that only has a software keyboard

 

[rogue_slc_vzw_rep]

Jumping. VZW is great but Sprint offers the exact same coverage in my home/work/play areas and at a much lower price. I have had them before and never had problems with the customer service like some have.

Have to agree with you. I had Sprint for several years and never had a problem except for a few ski resorts where tmobile and verizon work just fine. Id love it if that phone came to verizon though since i get a discount lol

 

[CRPercodani]

Custom ROMs and Motorola's Android Handsets

by Lori Fraleigh (lorifraleigh) on 02-12-2010 04:41 PM - last edited on 02-12-2010 06:01 PM



My name is Lori Fraleigh and I manage the technical team behind the MOTODEV program at Motorola. We provide tools, like MOTODEV Studio, and a variety of technical services including application testing services, developer education materials traditional technical support and serve as experts on our discussion boards. Today I'm stepping a bit outside of my day-to-day job to try to answer some questions we have seen not only on MOTODEV, but on various other sites. I've worked with a number of other Motorolans to bring you the information in this post.

For the Android application developer, MOTODEV provides a wealth of resources to help you create and bring your applications to market. We provide a comprehensive Eclipse-based development environment, MOTODEV Studio, as well as SDK add-ons which provide emulator images that represent the software on our handsets. To aid developers who may not have access to physical handsets, or who may wish to test on a carrier network unavailable in their physical location, we provide access to handsets via the Motorola Virtual Device Lab at DeviceAnywhere. All Motorola application developer resources can be found at http://developer.motorola.com.

We understand there is a community of developers interested in going beyond Android application development and experimenting with Android system development and re-flashing phones. For these developers, we highly recommend obtaining either a Google ADP1 developer phone or a Nexus One, both of which are intended for these purposes. At this time, Motorola Android-based handsets are intended for use by consumers and Android application developers, and we have currently chosen not to go into the business of providing fully unlocked developer phones.

The use of open source software, such as the Linux kernel or the Android platform, in a consumer device does not require the handset running such software to be open for re-flashing. We comply with the licenses, including GPLv2, for each of the open source packages in our handsets. We post appropriate notices as part of the legal information on the handset and post source code, where required, at http://opensource.motorola.com. Securing the software on our handsets, thereby preventing a non-Motorola ROM image from being loaded, has been our common practice for many years. This practice is driven by a number of different business factors. When we do deviate from our normal practice, such as we did with the DROID, there is a specific business reason for doing so. We understand this can result in some confusion, and apologize for any frustration.

We do hear your feedback and read your posts - whether on our MOTODEV discussion boards, our Owners' Forums, our Facebook pages, Twitter, or a variety of other sites on the web. We take the time to understand the issue and then pass the information on to the appropriate product (or other) teams within Motorola. We then try to respond with explanations or updates as we get the answers. Thank you for your continued feedback.

Custom ROMs and Motorola's Android Handsets - MOTODEV Discussion Boards

I also never thought I could live with a phone that doesn't have a physical keyboard, then I started using Swype and the HTC_IME keyboards. I haven't used the physical Droid keyboard since then except for copy+pasting and signing into my Gmail account when flashing a new ROM.

 

[nstallion]

The HTC EVO also has a significantly bigger screen than the Droid so on-screen typing will be even easier.

Personally I'm stuck to Verizon though. I don't want to leave. If the EVO or something similar came to Verizon I might consider it, as long as it wasn't too expensive. I have no interest in an iPhone or Nexus One though.

 

[UBRocked]

Hey CRP...did she just say "Motorolans"? Haha!!! I haven't even finished reading and I can tell this person is on the ball!

 

[UBRocked]

In regards to what would make me switch...it wouldn't be carrier. I hate Sprint cause of the level of support I have seen them give men and women in the military that bought their crap ass service just to have the phones with zero signal on the AF bases (despite their store's sales pitch to new troops and of course their BS maps) while Verizon and even T-Mobile worked fine...okay no big deal except they refused to refund any of the purchases as well as the contracts. I hope that company burns in hell...just my opinion of course

T-Mobile...I was with for 8+ years (started with Voicestream before it was aquired). After that time, a BS $10/month charge for 10 months ($100) caused me to leave. I had a 3rd line and that person got their own plan (with T-Mobile) but due to their credit, they had to get on a flexpay plan and the number could not be ported over...thus sticking me with the $10 charge while they were making $60/month on their new found customer...they can eat me too!...I'll never go back.

So I'm hoping Verizon doesn't screw me cause I'd hate to have to drive to the ghetto to get on Boost Mobile!

The Verizon phone that could do it for me would have improved features like a better camera, bigger screen wouldn't be bad, flash, Apps2SD, and one hell of a processor and battery life...

It would have to be un-Verizoned like the Droid. No one wants Verizon putting their own "flavor" on the phone and no one wants to pay for things like their crap ass VZ Navigator service and who the hell wants to pay though the nose for crap like VCast...keep that crap away from me and off my phone! Save it for the LG Chocolates of the world.

 

[-=Jeff=-]

Hey CRP...did she just say "Motorolans"? Haha!!! I haven't even finished reading and I can tell this person is on the ball!

yes she did, believe or not that is what they are referred to at Motorola.. I personally am an Ex-Motorola Employee or Ex-Motorolan, almost everybody who has worked for or with Motorola know that 'Motorolan' is a Very common way to refer to the employees.

I was at Motorola for almost 10 years, 8.5 years in infrastructure and just about 1.5 in Subscriber. I was in the Subscriber Group in Libertyville in 1999/2000, I did most of my work on the Vulcan (V8162) and when I left to go back to Infrastructure, There was development of the Phoenix (v60)

 

[OMJ]

For me to change something like the EVO would have to come to verizon and I would have to be up for a new phone. I do 1 year contracts so it wont be too long.

 

[G.Armour]

It will have to be something ground breaking for me to change, and it will also have to be on Verizon. Eh, I think that once flash is on my phone, I probably won't go anywhere till my 2 years is up.

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[Timaphillips]

I'd contemplate switching to the Nexus on Verizon only for the "new" gadget syndrome...I know it's not really new per say. I like the form factor better than the Droid from what I've seen but have yet to physically hold it. I NEVER use my hard keyboard because they totally botched it over at Motorola when designing it. And the soft keyboard offered by Google is adequate, albeit after a small learning curve. And this is coming from an ex-blackberry user.

But really, if it wasn't for the huge ROM support on the DROID, I'd be foaming at the mouth for the N1 or even (GASP!) the iPhone to hit Verizon. So until the ROM cookers out there turn their back on the DROID (I'm looking at you DroidMod), I'm here to stay.

 

[YankeeDudeL]

Motorola Droid II

 

[shizzy1427]

I want the Incredible pretty badly, but my Droid is still rather new and amazing, and i dont think i get my next upgrade until november or later. So we'll so whats out then, and how the Droid/ Developer community is doing at that time. And what phones are out then too haha

 

[ska.t73]

For me to change something like the EVO would have to come to verizon and I would have to be up for a new phone. I do 1 year contracts so it wont be too long.

^^^^^This!

I want the EVO bad but I'm not gonna even worry about it unless it comes to Verizon...

 

[sukanas]

iphone (next rev) on verizon. if not, then HTC 4g.

 

[shadowdude777]

I also never thought I could live with a phone that doesn't have a physical keyboard, then I started using Swype and the HTC_IME keyboards. I haven't used the physical Droid keyboard since then except for copy+pasting and signing into my Gmail account when flashing a new ROM.

It's not using the physical keyboard that annoys me so much as it is the fact that it takes up the entire screen when you type with it.

 

[BigMace23]

For me to change something like the EVO would have to come to verizon and I would have to be up for a new phone. I do 1 year contracts so it wont be too long.

^^^^^This!

I want the EVO bad but I'm not gonna even worry about it unless it comes to Verizon...

Same here too. If the EVO or a similar device comes to verizon, Ill b able to switch to it november 2010. I would never switch from verizon because I have been with them forever, get great coverage, and also some cool perks like yearly upgrades since I have been with them for so long. So until a 4g phone with a bigger screen comes to verizon, I'll be more than happy with my rooted droid, which can do everything the other top phones do and more... droid does