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Verizon Note 2 Pre-order, Release date, and speculation thread

I suspected the same thing once I heard it was lacking an SD slot. Remember this is the same company that used to disable wifi on its devices to force you to use data. If the DNA had come with expandable memory I would have cancelled my GN2 preorder today.

Yep. Going forward I think you are going to have to rely on OEMs like Samsung that force the device they think you want most on the networks rather than allowing networks to define these exclusive devices that will be speced out how the network tends to prefer.

Another reason I left for TMo. Their AWS LTE with 850/1900 UMTS should be more broadly available in random unlocked devices going forward.
 
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I'm surprised that Verizon is releasing the DNA and N2 within two weeks of each other. I think there will be a lot of DNA returns....

Honestly I don't think there will be a lot of DNA returns. The fact of the matter is the DNA is cheaper, smaller and has a better screen. Most people shop with their eyes and buy things that look good. That screen on the DNA will draw a lot of people in. The average consumer doesn't give 2 craps about the technical specs like we all do. If you start talking processor speeds and mAh and ppi, the average consumer will get completely lost and have no clue what you are talking about.
 
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Especially when something else is released before it.
I could look at it like Verizon hates Samsung or look at it like Verizon is trying to create enough anxiety that sales of the Note II go threw the roof.

I for one just don't understand it....... Samsung vs. HTC. Really? Samsung is much more innovative IMO. I just don't like HTC. I originally purchased the Incredible when it was first released and returned it within a week. I've learned my lesson and will never purchase HTC product again.
 
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I for one just don't understand it....... Samsung vs. HTC. Really? Samsung is much more innovative IMO. I just don't like HTC. I originally purchased the Incredible when it was first released and returned it within a week. I've learned my lesson and will never purchase HTC product again.

My first HTC phone was the Hero then Evo (great phones). The Evo 3D (side step; no upgrade IMO) killed my HTC relationship.
 
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Especially when something else is released before it.
I could look at it like Verizon hates Samsung or look at it like Verizon is trying to create enough anxiety that sales of the Note II go threw the roof.

I don't think Verizon hates Samsung or they are trying to build anxiety for the phones release, I think Verizon is taking longer than other carriers because it is taking longer for Samsung to make Verizon's version of the phone. The fact that Verizon branded the home button I'm sure is slowing down the production of their models because its one extra step Samsung has to take to get the phones out the door and to Verizon.
 
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Especially when something else is released before it.
I could look at it like Verizon hates Samsung or look at it like Verizon is trying to create enough anxiety that sales of the Note II go threw the roof.

I agree with ScandaLeX completely for this. Knowing how Verizon operates, it seems highly likely they would do something like this

~C
 
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that POS HTC DNA now shows as shipping on 11/16 on VZW's site

total BS :mad:

I'm surprised that Verizon is releasing the DNA and N2 within two weeks of each other. I think there will be a lot of DNA returns....

I don't think Verizon hates Samsung or they are trying to build anxiety for the phones release, I think Verizon is taking longer than other carriers because it is taking longer for Samsung to make Verizon's version of the phone. The fact that Verizon branded the home button I'm sure is slowing down the production of their models because its one extra step Samsung has to take to get the phones out the door and to Verizon.

The above three posts were never part of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus nonsense I guess?? I bet we can find the exact same posts by different peeps back in that thread. Verizon doesn't like devices they somehow are tricked into selling. There is a reason the GNex was the first and probably LAST Nexus device that will work on VZW in awhile. The Galaxy line from samsung that is now pushed out on all networks as much at once as possible is something else Verizon doesn't like. I think they are more OK with he iPhone cause they knew they were losing customers without it and Apple is a more closed up tightly controlled setup just like them.

Honestly I don't think there will be a lot of DNA returns. The fact of the matter is the DNA is cheaper, smaller and has a better screen. Most people shop with their eyes and buy things that look good. That screen on the DNA will draw a lot of people in. The average consumer doesn't give 2 craps about the technical specs like we all do. If you start talking processor speeds and mAh and ppi, the average consumer will get completely lost and have no clue what you are talking about.

This is what VZW is banking. Get the brunt of contract switches over the holidays on this device. I don't know the reasoning, but I figure the fact the Galaxy Note is a hugely desired device and not something made special for them means they somehow make less margin in how the parts are all costed out to them.
 
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I don't think Verizon hates Samsung or they are trying to build anxiety for the phones release, I think Verizon is taking longer than other carriers because it is taking longer for Samsung to make Verizon's version of the phone. The fact that Verizon branded the home button I'm sure is slowing down the production of their models because its one extra step Samsung has to take to get the phones out the door and to Verizon.

I honestly don't believe the branding has anything at all to do with it because as images leaked, you could clearly see Verizon's stamp all over it and phones agent made one at a time. They're mass produced.




The above three posts were never part of the Samsung Galaxy Nexus nonsense I guess?? I bet we can find the exact same posts by different peeps back in that thread. Verizon doesn't like devices they somehow are tricked into selling.....

I'm unfamiliar with all things Gnex. Have never wanted one so I'm kind of clueless regarding anything related to Verizon and that phone.
 
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I'm unfamiliar with all things Gnex. Have never wanted one so I'm kind of clueless regarding anything related to Verizon and that phone.

The lead up to the Google announcement of it and then drama related to the VZW version basically being outted by google and then no actual release details ever being announced created one of the longest and most active threads ever on this forum. The Moto RAZR was a total unknown for a good part of the hoopla, but ended up being announced and available almost a full month before the GNex.

After the RAZR debacle was understood and that it would be first out of nowhere, a huge email and twitter assault happened to get some sorta official word from VZW on the device. They finally said in a press release it would be out before the end of the year. It was obvious all along that aspects of it were being negotiated with Google up until the just before it released. We know the GNote 2 has the VZW button, but there are probably other things being negotiated that have held it up just because VZW wants to be a pain about it rather than happily taking the device ASAP and making the customers that desire it happy. In the mean time it won't compete with devices they have had a lot more control over such as the Droid line.
 
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