Root The future of rooting

[Bramsy]

is there one?

We all know that what we can do with our phones now and its AMAZAZING! but (always a but) do you think this will be the way of the future?!

I am not sure of the official Google feeling of this open source yada yada, but are they OK with us taking over of their work? its like they're the springboard and we get to pick and choose what we dive into.

I am so happy that Google has given us this phone and allowed us to get where we have come so far, and even seeing that this is a Generation 1 (kinda) of this... i just am curious as to when they start making us phone nerds work harder (2.1 has kiiiiiiiiinda seen some shades of this)

just looking for some feedback and to forum it up!

 

[slick_old]

AMAZAZING is better than AMAZING.

 

[nstallion]

If it was up to Google we would be able to do whatever we wanted with Android. Its the phone manufacturers and service providors that want it closed down. Also, giving the layman su access would probably cause a lot of people to screw up their phones.

 

[Bramsy]

AMAZAZING is better than AMAZING.

Benchwarmers

 

[Bramsy]

If it was up to Google we would be able to do whatever we wanted with Android. Its the phone manufacturers and service providors that want it closed down. Also, giving the layman su access would probably cause a lot of people to screw up their phones.

agreed to most extent, but the way my little sister (14) is growing up, she'll be the one i take my tech stuff to in the future. these little ones are getting wayy tech saavy early!

 

[shadowdude777]

If it was up to Google we would be able to do whatever we wanted with Android. Its the phone manufacturers and service providors that want it closed down. Also, giving the layman su access would probably cause a lot of people to screw up their phones.

AT&T is the worst with the whole draconian lockdown policy. The Backflip disgusts me and just reaffirms the fact that I will never use their service.

Google's been one of the most open companies I've seen out there that isn't an actual Linux company. They seem to like the cloud a lot, though, and I'm reluctant about a switch to cloud computing (not that I won't try out Chrome OS...). I dunno if Google would want to give everyone su. I mean, I thought that was what the Dev Phones were for.

 

[shrink57]

Well for me there is no greater motivation then being told "I can't." If the android operating system really became totally open and accessible I would probably find some other locked down device to play with just for the challenge (I still get guilty pleasure cutting those tags off my pillows and mattresses).

 

[Bramsy]

What ATnT did to the backflip should anger the Android!!

 

[Bramsy]

Well for me there is no greater motivation then being told "I can't." If the android operating system really became totally open and accessible I would probably find some other locked down device to play with just for the challenge (I still get guilty pleasure cutting those tags off my pillows and mattresses).

it kinda is totally open, isnt it?

 

[shrink57]

it kinda is totally open, isnt it?

Semantics. Not the way it comes packaged with our Motorola device. If it was we wouldn't be having this forum or conversation.

 

[Bramsy]

touche, you win.

 

[slick_old]

What ATnT did to the backflip should anger the Android!!

They castrated Android. AT&T is gay. As a matter of fact, why would Google allow AT&T to water down their product like that? They're gonna have people missing out on some of the cool features and thinking that Android sucks.

 

[Bramsy]

i was thinking that myself when i first saw a video (youtube) of how bad it blows!

i just hope Android keeps with the momentum and writes this off thus forcing ATnT into getting a read Android phone....... we shall see

Any other rooters have feelings on my thread??

 

[shrink57]

i was thinking that myself when i first saw a video (youtube) of how bad it blows!

i just hope Android keeps with the momentum and writes this off thus forcing ATnT into getting a read Android phone....... we shall see

Any other rooters have feelings on my thread??

They are too busy flashing Koush's 5.0.5.7, or is it 5.0.5.8 (by the time I finish typing probably 5.0.5.9 )

 

[CRPercodani]

Well unfortunately Google has no control over what other manufacturers or carriers do to Android. Anyone can build from the source code and then put it on some hardware with whatever modifications they want. That is how open source works with the type of license's Android uses.

Google has already said they don't necessarily want us to root our phones and use custom ROM's. They won't be going the extra mile to stop us though, that is up to the manufacturers.

 

[Wisdom]

You have to remember the real reason Google even developed Android in the first place. $$$$ Their marketing model was never to make money selling operating systems like Microsoft does, their model has always been about selling advertising. They give away (as in free) the Android operating system in order to get as wide a spread of adoption as possible. Then they can charge for advertising in the apps they provide (gmail, maps, etc.), and make money providing enterprise versions. They also make it cheap and easy for developers to make apps, many of which also include advertising that Google serves and makes money on, and they take a cut from the sale of the ones that are sold. Remember, they didn't yank the leash on Cyanogen until he started messing with the apps that they make money on, and as long as Android allows them to make money under the current model, they are going to keep developing it as open source, and encouraging development. As for them allowing or not allowing telcos to lock the OS or not, once again they don't care as long as the revenue streams in the advertising stay intact.

 

[condog]

Remember, they didn't yank the leash on Cyanogen until he started messing with the apps that they make money on.

woah, please explain that situation. i would never think that google would care wat devs like pete or cyan did.

 

[CRPercodani]

http://androidandme.com/2009/09/hacks/cyanogenmod-in-trouble/



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[shadowdude777]

Huh... so what became of that? I mean obviously, we have Cyanogen ROMs right now so I'm assuming he cleared things up, but it doesn't really say that in the article.

 

[OMJ]

Huh... so what became of that? I mean obviously, we have Cyanogen ROMs right now so I'm assuming he cleared things up, but it doesn't really say that in the article.

Google apps have to be downloaded separately now. Instead of packed in the rom

 

[shadowdude777]

Google apps have to be downloaded separately now. Instead of packed in the rom

Oh, haha, so that's why that happens. Thanks!

 

[CRPercodani]

Google apps have to be downloaded separately now. Instead of packed in the rom

Exactly. That is why you have to check off Google Apps whenever you download a new CM ROM.

Best Hitler video ever:
YouTube - Even Hitler is mad at Google for C&D order on Cyanogen Android

 

[shadowdude777]

Best Hitler video ever:

That was amazing.

 

[shrink57]

Best Hitler video ever:
YouTube - Even Hitler is mad at Google for C&D order on Cyanogen Android

LMAO!!! Is that Bruno Ganz in "Downfall"? One of my favorites (damn, my subtitles were wrong, something about the Third Reich )

 

[Bramsy]

that video is kinda true