Root You cannot save apps to your SD card with the Optimus Elite!

[cdnerds]

I got my Optimus Elite today (virgin Mobile) and noticed that the unit has 2 sets of memory. Phone memory and Internal Memory.

You have 800mb of phone memory and 1.9gb of internal memory. At first I thought the "internal memory" was a 2gb micro sd card. Its not. Its some separate memory in the phone, and the cause of a problem.

I popped in an 8gb micro sd card and started to try and move apps over to it. Apps like angry bird, etc. The problem is you cant move any apps to the SD card.

The OS only allows you to move apps to this internal memory.

Apps that specialize in moving things to the SD card - think the internal memory is the SD card.

So your stuck with just under 3gb of space for apps.

The phone does recognize the micro sd card, shows the free space, and stores pictures / videos on it.

If anyone finds a way around this without rooting please let me know.

 

[AndyOpie150]

Have you checked in the other Optimus forums with phones that have an "Internal SD card". This might give you a better understanding of your phone's partition's

 

[cdnerds]

I understand the phones partitions, but thats not going to change the fact you cant store any apps outside its internal memory

 

[AndyOpie150]

The User's Guide makes no mention of being able to put apps on to the external uSD. I have over 150 apps in less than a 2GB partition on my 16GB uSD card (I'm probably only using less than half of that).
The rest of the linked portion is in the cache partition in the system. I'm only using less than 50MB in the internal of the 178 I get. Quite a few downloaded app's are over 25MB's.
So why do you need to put Apps on the uSD card. The user manual said you can put everything else on the uSD card. That leaves the Internal for all you apps. How much room for apps do you need? With the huge amount of space you have for app's, why even worry about putting app's on the uSD card?

 

[cdnerds]

The User's Guide makes no mention of being able to put apps on to the external uSD. I have over 150 apps in less than a 2GB partition on my 16GB uSD card (I'm probably only using less than half of that).
The rest of the linked portion is in the cache partition in the system. I'm only using less than 50MB in the internal of the 178 I get. Quite a few downloaded app's are over 25MB's.
So why do you need to put Apps on the uSD card. The user manual said you can put everything else on the uSD card. That leaves the Internal for all you apps. How much room for apps do you need? With the huge amount of space you have for app's, why even worry about putting app's on the uSD card?

A lot of us are buying this coming from the Optimus V. One would think this phone can do everything the Optimus V can plus more. I was just amazed that I couldnt do that. Remember all of us Optimus users are used to storing our apps via the SD card.

 

[AndyOpie150]

I haven't forgot, but wow, you don't ever have to mess with moving apps, worrying about what app to delete to make room for another, etc. , etc.
Pretty cool if you ask me.

 

[350X]

Sounds like the elite is set up like most tablets, why the 16GB card I got for my tablet is in my V and the 2GB card from the V is in my tablet.

my tablet has 8GB internal, 2GB for system and 6GB for storage.

makes it hard sometimes when you goto set up a program and it default to the /mnt/sdcard, which is internal, with no option to chose /mnt/extern_sd

making this program a must
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dooblou.WiFiFileExplorerPRO

 

[fightingirish]

Do you really need more than 2GB for app space? I have almost a hundred apps on my phone, including a couple Angry Birds games, Instagram, Facebook, Evernote and other big apps, and I'm still around 300MB used (on a 1GB partition). A phone with that much internal space doesn't need App2SD. That's for Optimus V owners who have to fight with a piddly 170MB of internal space.

Think of it as an internal partition. No App2SD or Link2SD needed. Use the SD card for music, pics, etc. Don't bother with putting apps on your SD card. You'll be fine.

 

[elgecko]

I will be posting my finding of the Elite soon in another thread....

Most people 2 GB worth of space is probably plenty, but not everyone.
I have a tablet that has 4GB internal space. I have 6 Audubon Guides on it. The data for the guides is huge per guide, such as birds is over 500MB. You can see how this will eat up space very fast. I almost have nothing on the tablet other then the Audubon apps and the Angry Birds series and have less the 1.5GB left.
On the OV I can only put 3 of the Audubon guides on it because of the unmovable data part of the app is 25MB or more in size.

 

[Murf1]

I use Android Assistant and it has an App2SD feature. When ever it pops up that an app can be moved, I do it. I presumed it went to the actual removable SD card, but not sure where they really go.

 

[RealFastOne]

I downloaded and tried the Android Assistant App2SD feature, and it looks like the apps it moved went to the Elite's internal SD, not to the SD card. I do not know of anything that makes it possible to store anything on the "external" SD, other than photos and music, on this phone.

 

[Ranhead]

The only app I had an issue with was Copilot. But after a quick config edit, I was able to store the map files on the external SD. I wonder if there is that type of work around for the Audubon guides?

 

[Dark One]

I take it link2sd won't link to an external SD card with this phone?

 

[Artine]

Actually you can use Titanium Backup to move apps to the external SD card. As well as Root Explorer. Not sure if you could set them (the apps moved to the ExSD) up to run from the external SD card, but I know that you can actually move and/or copy them over using either of those apps, as I have done it for external backups. Of course, both of those apps require first rooting your OE, so if rooting is a problem for you then I would say you're SOL. Though the lack of having an option to directly "Save to ExSD" when you download/install an app may be inconvenient, you can still move them over manually.
Otherwise, there is already provided for you a huge amount of space for apps already. You shouldn't need more for apps specifically. For videos, pictures, music, and other media, sure, but not for apps.

 

[Ranhead]

Otherwise, there is already provided for you a huge amount of space for apps already. You shouldn't need more for apps specifically. For videos, pictures, music, and other media, sure, but not for apps.

That really depends on the app. Copilot Live is around 1.6 gigs, that doesn't leave much room. And apparently elgecko's Audubon Guides will chew up that internal SD quickly too. I have to believe there are more apps that could cause this issue. Hopefully everyone who needs to use the external SD can find a work around.

 

[Artine]

It more or less depends on how you use your phone. The majority of users, I think, are not likely to run into a space problem with the OE. However, you can still move the apps over to an ExSD using either of the two methods I provided above. You may even be able to actually install the apps to the ExSD itself and create a shortcut to that via a launcher of choice. But, of course, having to access an external source and the transference of data between the phone and the external storage may inhibit the apps performance.

 

[350X]

Simple solution is get a decent 7in tablet, up to 3 now, once you have one you will kick yourself for trying to do stuff on such a tiny screen.

 

[MacFett]

Hopefully everyone who needs to use the external SD can find a work around.

The best work around is to contact the app creator and ask them to update it to allow saving the additional data to an external source.

 

[shimdidly]

If you did manage to root your phone, how would you go about making apps install on the external memory by default?

 

[hoosiercheetah]

If you did manage to root your phone, how would you go about making apps install on the external memory by default?

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Just saying.

 

[kreeaytor]

i am confused. you say you use a sd card, but then you ask why do you need one? i have 7 apps on my phone in my internal memory. and ive used up all of the 2GB. maybe im doing something wrong, but it also seems to lessen after time goes on.

 

[Dark One]

i am confused. you say you use a sd card, but then you ask why do you need one? i have 7 apps on my phone in my internal memory. and ive used up all of the 2GB. maybe im doing something wrong, but it also seems to lessen after time goes on.

If you get an external micro sd card then you will be able to move some of that junk from your phone's memory to the sd card and you'll have more room for apps. Your pictures, music, videos, and anything you have downloaded is on your internal memory if you don't have an sd card.

 

[rapid1]

There's a corollary to this problem - if you have an app installed that goes looking for a folder on the external SD card, it can't be seen by the app. I use Fuel Log to track all my gas purchases, and the app has a nifty export/import feature. So I exported the logs to my SD card on my OV, moved the card over, installed the app and told it to go find the logs to import, only it can't see the folder on the SD card.

Same issue with moving pics and such over - the Gallery cannot see photos on the SD card.

Lame.

 

[MacFett]

Gallery cannot see photos on the SD card.

Both gallery and quickpic have no problem for me. I think i had to tell quickpic they were there the first time I ran it.

 

[rapid1]

Both gallery and quickpic have no problem for me. I think i had to tell quickpic they were there the first time I ran it.

Dunno, maybe I did the xfer wrong. All I know is after I did it, Gallery didn't see them. I had to manually move them to the DCIM folder while in mass storage mode. Why the heck did they change the setup from the V?