Root JB Or Cm For S-on

[wer]

I Was wondering if maybe there was anyway to have a JB Or Cm rom on an s-on htc evo v 4g with hboot 1.47 unlocked with htcdev if thats not possible is there a link to ALL the roms i can install with 4ext on my current settings?

 

[koopakid08]

I Was wondering if maybe there was anyway to have a JB Or Cm rom on an s-on htc evo v 4g with hboot 1.47 unlocked with htcdev if thats not possible is there a link to ALL the roms i can install with 4ext on my current settings?

Nope, a new hboot is required and that can only be achieved through s-off.

There is no "link" to all the roms you can use but anything sense based should work fine.

 

[davidmargolin]

get s-off... its really easy

 

[wer]

getting s-off with the wire trick just looked like something that would be very hard for me. ive looked at how to do it with the jumpobear or however you spell it. can you explain everything i must do to achive s-off while on mobsters v4 hd lite with hboot 1.57

 

[sami055]

I'll link an xda guide the walks you through the basics of everything. For me though I had to use ubuntu and the latest controlbear from unlimited.io to actually get it working. I tried at least 30 times on windows and it worked first try on ubuntu. Here's the link.

 

[wer]

thats way to much to do. i have to downgrade my mainver flash a ruu go back to the stock rom relock my bootloader and all kinds of stuff. and i dont even know what most of that stuff is. AHHH. this is all just to much.

 

[ramjet73]

thats way to much to do. i have to downgrade my mainver flash a ruu go back to the stock rom relock my bootloader and all kinds of stuff. and i dont even know what most of that stuff is. AHHH. this is all just to much.

You can try flashing one of JMZ's stock ROM's or a "stockish" ROM like Harmonia and go straight to the wire trick. You won't be able to get support from the unlimited.io (JuopunutBear) staff if you go that route and have problems, but a lot of people have been successful doing it that way. It's probably worth a try.

ramjet73

 

[wer]

i just cant do things like this without a tutorial. because now that i read all that about locking the bootloader again. it worries me ill make a mistake. and then my phone will blow up.

 

[ramjet73]

i just cant do things like this without a tutorial. because now that i read all that about locking the bootloader again. it worries me ill make a mistake. and then my phone will blow up.

Then you should stay with the ICS Sense based ROM's that work with S-ON and the stock bootloader.

Nobody is trying to push you outside your comfort zone.

ramjet73

 

[thIsgUy20]

what I did is go to every page about s-off and how to fix it if you get stuck and save it for offline reading just in case if something go wrong you can easily look at a fix. but believe me I didn't want to s-off but I wanted jelly bean so I took the dive and got it done after 4 tries. I just had to make up a patter in my head

 

[wer]

But why cant i get jb without having s-off and a certain hboot. i dont understamd that.

 

[xploPR]

But why cant i get jb without having s-off and a certain hboot. i dont understamd that.

:hmmmm:

 

[Subzer0]

But why cant i get jb without having s-off and a certain hboot. i dont understamd that.

Because JB roms require a certain hboot to run and the only way to change it is to go s-off. Period. There's no other way to explain it, I'm sorry.

Going s-off is not hard and there's alot of help here and unlimited.io's site and irc. But you have to have patience.

So if you don't want to go s-off, I would do as ramjet73 said and stay with ICS sense based roms.

 

[Palmetto Fellow]

This thread has me scratching my head. Coming from an OG EVO, I thought you needed S-off in order to flash ROMs. From the tone of this thread, it sounds like people are flashing ROMs with S-ON. Is that right?

Have they made it easier for people to switch ROMs while restricting superuser access?

 

[Subzer0]

This thread has me scratching my head. Coming from an OG EVO, I thought you needed S-off in order to flash ROMs. From the tone of this thread, it sounds like people are flashing ROMs with S-ON. Is that right?

Have they made it easier for people to switch ROMs while restricting superuser access?

You can flash without being s-off. You need to be rooted and unlock your bootloader. But sure, you can flash other roms. Just have to know which ones work with your hboot because with s-on, you can't change it.

 

[ramjet73]

Have they made it easier for people to switch ROMs while restricting superuser access?

To answer that question, after some pressure from the community HTC provided a bootloader unlock process at htcdev.com which allows you to root but you stay S-ON. There are still a lot of restrictions that S-OFF will eliminate as described in this post.

ramjet73

 

[zaius42]

If i'm not mistaken you can flash a hboot and still be s-on

 

[ramjet73]

If i'm not mistaken you can flash a hboot and still be s-on

The only way to do that is with an RUU, and you have to flash one with an hboot at the same or higher level than the one installed.

ramjet73

 

[nsciucco]

HTC is certainly a pain compared to my intercept days when I rooted with a apk.file. no worrying about hboots and s-on..

 

[Prinny]

HTC is certainly a pain compared to my intercept days when I rooted with a apk.file. no worrying about hboots and s-on..

I think the triumph was the easiest thing ever...didn't even have to root for a custom recovery...just go into I THINK download mode, copy a recovery.img to the phone...bam. Done. LIterally 30 seconds and done.

 

[xploPR]

I think the triumph was the easiest thing ever...didn't even have to root for a custom recovery...just go into I THINK download mode, copy a recovery.img to the phone...bam. Done. LIterally 30 seconds and done.

Last time i rooted a triumph, b_randon14 had an easy way with no cables or a pc, just with terminal emulator from the google play store, and typing sudo.... and 2 other codes reboot phone and that's it

 

[Palmetto Fellow]

To answer that question, after some pressure from the community HTC provided a bootloader unlock process at htcdev.com which allows you to root but you stay S-ON. There are still a lot of restrictions that S-OFF will eliminate as described in this post.

ramjet73

This just shows my lack of knowledge. For me, i just follow the instructions...rather than figure out exactly what's happening. With my EVO, rooting, and getting S-off was basically the same thing. I didn't distinguish it as different things, as I assumed S-off was needed to flash roms and install a custom recovery.

So gaining root access and having s-off are two different things wtih different meanings...interesting... I had just assumed that we rooted to install custom recovery and gain S-off status which was required for a flash...I have much to learn.

 

[Prinny]

^Someone else from SC!

Just an FYI for you. You don't NEED S-Off, but it's HIGHLY recommended. I took the plunge, best idea ever. Better radio and different Hboot (which is what S-Off is for) gives me better signal and more ROM options.

 

[ramjet73]

^Someone else from SC!

Did you know virus (developer of Virus3D) is from SC also?

ramjet73

 

[Prinny]

Did you know virus (developer of Virus3D) is from SC also?

ramjet73

Really? Maybe I'll have to buy him a beer for his work (Or a shirley temple if he's too young )