Help Camera (and motion video) talk - the Ultrapixel and more (tips/discussion)

[toad6386]

I looked around & didn't find this posted elsewhere in ONEDERLAND,so,here ya go,from CNET:

HTC One Zoe mode and camera software in video walkthrough | CNET TV | Video Product Reviews, CNET Podcasts, Tech Shows, Live CNET Video

"ONEDERLAND" why didn't I think of that?!?!? I love it! :congrats:

If the ZOE software comes through like the promos are saying, this ONE might be the phone of my wife's dreams (she'll probably like Blinkfeed). And definitely an upgrade over my 3VO (3D??? what's that??? :hmmmm: )

 

[RootJunky]

On this website it says its a 13 megapixel. On other websites it says there is no megapixel count. On most websites it says anything from four to five megapixels. All websites say the camera is great. I could see why there is confusion, because they completely changed the game (which I think was needed), but could someone please explain this a little bit more to me

 

[EarlyMon]

It's fan comments gone wild.

In one slide, HTC showed a picture of a Bayer filter. That was by the marketing guys, and it was a concept graphic to sell the camera. I expect that that was a first for many people.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter

It's a 4.3 MP camera, according to good sources (4, 4.3, whatever, same thing for marketing).

Eager fans looked at the Bayer filter picture and decided somehow that it had 4.3 MP each of red, blue and green and 4.3MP times 3 colors = 12.9, aka 13 MP.

The math and the rest of the Ultrapixel briefing confirms that it's a 4 MP camera.
With every new phone feature, the blogosphere scrambles until fan assertions become facts, whether true or false.

That's my opinion.

 

[Joelzinho]

How does the HTC One camera compare to the HTC One X+ camera?

 

[Hadron]

Not easy to say from specs: the One X+ camera is 8M smaller pixels and a slower lens, the One is 4.3M larger pixels and a faster lens (in the context of photography, "slower" means "narrower maximum aperture" i.e. less light to the sensor in low light conditions or when focussing).

But there's always more to it - sensor capabilities, lens quality and the image processing algorithms. So as I say, you can't tell from the spec sheets. We need to wait until proper tests are available. My own guess, from what I've seen, is that you might get marginally less detail if you pixel peep (zoom to full resolution of the camera), but will probably get a nicer image at camera or computer screen resolution. It then also depends on what independent developers can do with it (if you are into rooting and modding).

I'd think that for most purposes, unless you like to zoom in as far as you can go, the One's images will be better. But like everyone we only have a few samples to work on, and no controlled comparisons.

 

[EarlyMon]

So far as I knew, all One X variations came with an f/2.0 lens aperture, same as the One.

 

[Roxolid]

I was lucky enough to get my hands on the HTC one at the launch event. I can say that in low light conditions, the camera beats the one x and iPhone hands down.

 

[RootJunky]

On this website it says that the phone shoots video @60 fps, which is very hard to believe. Is this just a typo, or what, because 60 fps is crazy for a smartphone.

 

[EarlyMon]

Which website?

Other cell phones have hit 60 fps, it depends on the resolution and the available lighting, this one does it at 720p according to the spec.

http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/specifications/

 

[Hadron]

So far as I knew, all One X variations came with an f/2.0 lens aperture, same as the One.

I'm sure you're right. I had f/2.2 in mind, but I'd probably read some misinformed blogger at some point (not BGR though - I have some standards )

 

[CafeKampuchia]

Per the Verge, results are mediocre. They give it a 6 out of ten. There are trade-offs.

HTC One review | The Verge

 

[EarlyMon]

Check out today's posts in the review thread, lots of interesting camera perspectives there.

And their complaint was the fear I'd voiced earlier - post-processing compression. I don't expect that to be an issue for the root community, but I wish they'd lay off that.

 

[sean76]

Engadget's review is saying the HTC one takes superb pics and the fact of getting past the 4megapixel count will be a non issue...I'll leave that up to me though when I get a hands one. IMO its the person taking the photo that makes the difference, not necessarily the camera it self.

I can take great pics with my nexus 4, does it have the best camera on the market? Not by a longshot...However I'm still able to grab really good pics when people I know with the same phone or even an iphone 5 can't top the same pic at the same time standing right next to me. Theres more to taking good pics then just having a ton of megapixels!

 

[PyroSporker]

A buddy at work, a long time Nokia user, sent me this link yesterday
Its good to see some actual photos and comparisons coming out and not just hearing more marketing hyperbole from the press conference.

Cameras: HTC One vs Nokia Lumia 920 - Neowin

Theres been a few more comparisons in the past few days
Not a lot of science here, but I always enjoy looking through these no matter what. I tend to ignore the commentary and try let the photos do the talking

UltraPixel vs PureView: HTC One & Nokia Lumia 920 Camera Shoot-Out | Pocketnow
Still photography comparison - HTC One vs Nokia Lumia 920


HTC One vs iPhone 5 vs Nokia Lumia 920


Camera phone comparison; HTC One, BlackBerry Z10, iPhone 5, Lumia 920, and Note II | ZDNet

My own guess, from what I've seen, is that you might get marginally less detail if you pixel peep (zoom to full resolution of the camera),

This is pretty spot on ^

 

[Doomstang]

Samsung Galaxy S 4 Vs HTC One - Quick Camera Comparison | TechnoBuffalo

The One looks pretty damn good!

Here's another camera comparison....HTC One vs quite a few other cameras.
Look's pretty good to me.

HTC One vs. The Latest Smartphones - Camera Comparison | TechnoBuffalo

 

[Android26]

Saw a video on youtube where the HTC One's camera easily beats the Droid DNA's camera.

 

[craftycarper]

Some stunning pics here from the One Ultrapixel camera.....

HTC ONE - ULTRAPIXEL PHOTO CAMERA TEST - FULLHD 1080p - YouTube

 

[sean76]

Some stunning pics here from the One Ultrapixel camera.....

HTC ONE - ULTRAPIXEL PHOTO CAMERA TEST - FULLHD 1080p - YouTube

Yippppppy...I was a little worried about some rumblings of the camera not taking such great shots! Looks like those rumblings were wrong

 

[toad6386]

Some stunning pics here from the One Ultrapixel camera.....

HTC ONE - ULTRAPIXEL PHOTO CAMERA TEST - FULLHD 1080p - YouTube

Definitely good enough for me and quite the upgrade from my 3VO!

 

[Scootmien]

Here's a few more pictures. Not as artistically put together as Thomas Van Welt's pics and video above and with an annoying soundtrack but still a reasonable selection of landscape shots.

HTC ONE Camera images - YouTube

 

[Scootmien]

Rather than start a new thread I thought i'd post a question here. On my One, when I have the camera app open and I tap on the screen to set a focal point, the camera makes a very short squeak that sounds like a tiny electric motor is actually moving an aperture. I've never experienced that on a smartphone before, can anyone else confirm if their camera does the same please?

 

[EarlyMon]

Rather than start a new thread I thought i'd post a question here. On my One, when I have the camera app open and I tap on the screen to set a focal point, the camera makes a very short squeak that sounds like a tiny electric motor is actually moving an aperture. I've never experienced that on a smartphone before, can anyone else confirm if their camera does the same please?

That's been standard on the HTC camera for a while - it's obviously not real, just a sound effect to provide you with feedback.

 

[sean76]

The Verge weighing in on the One's Camera against the competition

Top Shelf: What's the best smartphone camera today? - YouTube

 

[Doomstang]

That's been standard on the HTC camera for a while - it's obviously not real, just a sound effect to provide you with feedback.

Yeah the HTC phone's have had that subtle little noise with the cameras for some time...
I bet it sounds like a diesel motor on a dump truck with BoomSound though

 

[toad6386]

The Verge weighing in on the One's Camera against the competition

Top Shelf: What's the best smartphone camera today? - YouTube

Interesting comparison video. First time I've seen someone not care for the pics from the Lumina. Not surprising the guy preferred the iPhone pics, as I believe one the Verge reviews I read seemed like it should be coming from iVerge. I really thought the line "it looks like a cell phone camera picture..." was brilliant .... I mean, really. I want a better camera than my 3VO, but am under no illusion that a phone can take the place of a point and click... Seems like I'm going to be happy with it.