Help Camera (and motion video) talk - the Ultrapixel and more (tips/discussion)

[EarlyMon]

I don't have the One X anymore Novox, I cracked the screen so got it repaired and sold on. After the football I can post a couple of examples of why I think it's a better camera if you want? I have all the pics I took with the One X on my laptop.

The quality of the One X was just better, clearer in all light conditions although yeah, sometimes it would take a poor photo like all cameras. I am no camera enthusiast and tbh I don't know much about the inner workings.. I just liked how I could point it at something or someone and 9 times out of 10 I'd get a great picture.

Up to now that has not been the case with the One camera.. it could be I need to experiment with it a bit more

I'm going to stand by my opinion that you check it compared to a store copy.

Significantly below the One X quality is worth a check-up, yeah?

 

[craftycarper]

Quote from Brian Klug (Anandtech) review......

I think the tradeoff that HTC has made with the One is an ambitious one and the correct industry direction. It

 

[EarlyMon]

I've chatted about depth of field, here's how to see it calculated -

Check out "Photo Tools"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=be.hcpl.android.phototools

Note, I've used the focal length value from Brian at AnandTech.

In this example, I've imagined a snapshot of someone about 5' away that I've focused on. Closer than 3' and further than 18', things will be blurred. From about 7' to 18', things will be equally focused (loose definition for starters).

Apologies to my cousins using the metric system.

 

[Scootmien]

Brilliant. I'll give that a go, thanks Earlymon.

 

[TheSuper]

I didn't realise this but there are only 2 phones on the market currently that offer optical image stabilization. One is the Nokia Lumia 920 and the other is HTC One.

Here's how they both stack up against each other. Makes for quite interesting reading.

Ultimate Optical Image Stabilization test: HTC One versus Nokia Lumia 920 - GSMArena Blog

 

[EarlyMon]

It's a retake on the AnandTech review.

 

[TheSuper]

For anyone interested, this is more of a slideshow than a review but it's a handy read regarding the camera:

HTC One UltraPixel camera tips and tricks review

 

[SLRdude]

I'm still on the fence when it comes to the camera on the One.

After a week or so with the phone, I still feel that the photos are too flat and lack any dynamic range. They look okay on the HTC screen but very flat and dull on a computer monitor.

On a different note, I find the One to produce a sharp image with lots of detail and pleasant bokeh. The detail was to be expected given the much larger size of the pixels on the sensor.

Here is a shot comparison, one is straight out of the One and the other is after PP.

 

[Aokusman]

According a lot of reviews the one x has a better camera, but I'm not buying it for the camera.

 

[gonowhere]

Slightly off topic, but is Zoe mode picking up last years "Burst photo" mode? I remember last year everyone was all about the burst mode aspect of shooting and how many frames per second cameras were doing. Now nobody really talks about anything like that.

 

[SLRdude]

According a lot of reviews the one x has a better camera, but I'm not buying it for the camera.

I tend to agree, the One X and One X Plus have a slightly better camera IMHO.

 

[toad6386]

Slightly off topic, but is Zoe mode picking up last years "Burst photo" mode? I remember last year everyone was all about the burst mode aspect of shooting and how many frames per second cameras were doing. Now nobody really talks about anything like that.

If I understand your question and Zoe correctly, Zoe IS burst mode PLUS. That is, burst mode with additional features and/or editing tools.

 

[gonowhere]

If I understand your question and Zoe correctly, Zoe IS burst mode PLUS. That is, burst mode with additional features and/or editing tools.

Can't wait to tinker with the new toy!!

 

[sean76]

I tend to agree, the One X and One X Plus have a slightly better camera IMHO.

For real camera buffs, this is what I'm hearing echoed from my cousin who just got his yesterday. It's an at&t model and he's actually coming from a ONE X. His words were as follows...

Sick Sick Sick feeling to the phone, it's like a piece of metal, cold to the touch and all, but my ONE X takes better pictures and has better call quality? We didn't talk to much more, but I will see him tomorrow and take a gander myself.

 

[Wilkas]

I think phone cameras are a matter of preference and having owned the One X and now the One, I still think the One X was better for just pointing and shooting.. The One takes a more realistic clearer picture though it just takes a bit of messing about.

If you are indoors then the One is the perfect camera but outside the One X was a bit better. I suppose it all depends on where you take the most pictures.. I still wouldn't swap my One for any other phone on the market or coming out

 

[SLRdude]

To me, the One X and One X+ have a better dynamic range straight out of the camera while the One tends to be a bit sharper over all with a bit better detail.

I do photography part time so I am used to post processing 100% of my photos, first in Lightroom then in Photoshop.

If this was a real camera, I would prefer the One. A bit of PS post processing gives out very good results.

It isn't a camera though, it is a phone. People want to snap a shot and share it with others, without a need for post processing in Snapseed, Photoshop etc.

So to sum it up: I think the One has a better camera but the One X and One X+ are better camera phones.

If that makes any sense.

 

[TheAtheistReverend]

@SLRdude / EarlyMon or anyone that actually knows their way around photography,
I have used apps like Camera360 in the past and liked the results, any thoughts on camera apps that might help the average user get what they want out of the One so we don't have to manually post process with PS/Gimp etc?

 

[EarlyMon]

I use this on my phone -

Check out "Photo Enhance HDR Editor Pro"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wheadon.photoenhancepro

I've had my eye on this -

Check out "Camera JB+"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.moblynx.camerajbplus

I also advocate playing with the settings, there's a lot there, and you may find something that really gets what you want with the stock app. Settings are typically remembered on an HTC, so you may not have to look at that as a need to constantly tinker.

 

[zeo2k]

One of the things I loved about my HTC EVO LTE was the ability to edit & customize effects/filters on my photos beyond the presets that were given. Also, I had the ability to save those effects to make my own custom presets! The HTC One X, S, etc was able to do the same.

Well, I just got my HTC One today, and it took me FOREVER to find out how to make custom effects on this phone... But I finally found it. Why HTC hides these features are beyond me.

• Go to your Gallery > My Photos.
• Open the photo you want to edit and hit Edit > Effects.
• Press/hold the effect you want to customize and then drag to Custom.
• All the filters are there for you to edit the picture just the way you like.
• When you're done you can save your own presets if you like.

 

[TheAtheistReverend]

Thank you.
One thing I like about camera360, is it gives you the option of saving the original as well as the processed version. The you can compare the two and if you don't like the modified, you could always PS the original. For a while there they had the option to apply any of the settings to pre-existing photos, b̶u̶t̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶t̶ ̶o̶p̶t̶i̶o̶n̶ ̶s̶e̶e̶m̶s̶ ̶t̶o̶ ̶h̶a̶v̶e̶ ̶d̶i̶s̶a̶p̶p̶e̶a̶r̶e̶d̶ EDIT: still there!

I do hope with root, we will be able to utilize the camera better (access the truly untouched data).

 

[FanboyofLife]

One of my favorite things... well actually the only thing I like about using the GS3 was during video capture you could capture video and while recording you could pause and then restart the video. Thus, if you knew what you were doing, you could chop a video together while it was recording and I just always thought it was really cool. Is there a way to do this with the One??

 

[wayneholbrook]

Going to buy the new HTC One today. Just a quick question from a guy who doesn't know about cameras to much. The HTC seems to have a small mega pixel compared to what the SG4 is going to have, I realize that pixels are not everything but overall how would you compare the One's camera to the competition?

 

[SLRdude]

@SLRdude / EarlyMon or anyone that actually knows their way around photography,
I have used apps like Camera360 in the past and liked the results, any thoughts on camera apps that might help the average user get what they want out of the One so we don't have to manually post process with PS/Gimp etc?

download Snapseed and never look back.

 

[EarlyMon]

Going to buy the new HTC One today. Just a quick question from a guy who doesn't know about cameras to much. The HTC seems to have a small mega pixel compared to what the SG4 is going to have, I realize that pixels are not everything but overall how would you compare the One's camera to the competition?

See reviews here and in the photos thread - compares well.

download Snapseed and never look back.

Nice!

Check out "Red Eye Removal (Free)"

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.justgoodapps.free

 

[TheAtheistReverend]

download Snapseed and never look back.

I have used a little snapseed on my DInc2, but not real comfortable with it (yet).
Thank you for the recommendation. If you have any other thoughts, please continue to share.

Going to buy the new HTC One today. Just a quick question from a guy who doesn't know about cameras to much. The HTC seems to have a small mega pixel compared to what the SG4 is going to have, I realize that pixels are not everything but overall how would you compare the One's camera to the competition?

I don't mean to be rude, I don't know that much off the top of my head, and I wouldn't have the time to spell it out here anyway (and I would surely screw it up), but there is a TON of info on the Ultrapixel camera on the One out there, comparisons with other cameras, and basic info on the SG4 camera too.
Your best bet is to Google some of it and take what you see as "photographic evidence" for the quality of wha you're looking for.
My understanding of the gist of it is this:
The One's camera will take much better photos in mid to low level light, and the SG4 will likely get somewhat better results in broad daylight. All the info on color saturation, contrast, etc is more than I can spell out here and likely more than anyone else is willing to take the time to as well. Especially when the info is readily available through a little due diligence.