iPhone Killer?

[Eguy]

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Rumors flying that next iPhone will run on Qualcomm's chips - SignOnSanDiego.com

They are just rumors. We will see in June. If they make a CDMA version, chances are it will have a Qualcomm chipset, GSM is far less likely.

 

[LatinP]

They are just rumors. We will see in June. If they make a CDMA version, chances are it will have a Qualcomm chipset, GSM is far less likely.

I don't know man talk is Apple is having Qualcomm make all the new chips for every carrier (including GSM ATT). They're pretty much buddy buddy lately.

I'll admit I would have never thought this duo would be getting together a year ago but man Google is loaded with articles about Qualcomm and Apple, it's looking like they're working together alot lately.

edit:Spelling

 

[Eguy]

I don't know man talk is Apple is having Qualcomm make all the new chips for every carrier (including GSM ATT). They're pretty much buddy buddy lately.

I'll admit I would have never thought this duo would be getting together a year ago but man Google is loaded with articles about Qualcomm and Apple, it's looking like they're working together alot lately.

edit:Spelling

If it is true, I shall be rich from my Qualcomm stock .

 

[cary328is]

If it's powered by a snapdragon chances are it will have flash, the reason the iPhone doesn't have flash now is because the hardware wouldn't allow it. Matter of a fact Adobe started working on a flash client on iPhoneOS long before it even looked at Android or Windows they simply came to the conclusion that due to hardware limitations it wouldn't be possible same with the Samsung Moment or the HTC Hero these devices will NEVER have flash because of hardware limitations.

As far as open source it goes back to their general demographic and cool factor these users don't care they want a shiny Apple logo with lots of eye candy over anything else. Remember I'm speaking from a un-biased realistic sales perspective not an iPhone fan myself either.

Umm actually this is why there's no Flash:

Adobe: There’s No Flash on iPad Because Apple Is Protecting Content Revenue | Cult of Mac

 

[LatinP]

Umm actually this is why there's no Flash:

Adobe: There’s No Flash on iPad Because Apple Is Protecting Content Revenue | Cult of Mac

I'll quote the title:
"There’s No Flash on iPad"

Yes on the iPad, a few years ago Adobe and Apple would give an arm and a leg to have flash support on the iPhone in fact Adobe had a semi working client for Safari on iPhoneOS which never surfaced because it kept crashing in the lab after stress tests were conducted. After long and hard soul searching they concluded that flash on an iPhone would be impossible because of hardware limitations.

Edit: I read that article, interesting read. I'd bet you money flash surfaces on the new iPhone though. Way too much competition around coming out with flash supported mobile browsers and Steve Jobs didn't raise no dummies it would be financial suicide. They're basically doing now what they did when the iPhone was new. They went money hungry once Android came into the spotlight the developer program loosened up greatly on app approval and I'm almost certain the same can be said when it comes to flash support on Safari's mobile browser, they will pay whatever they have to make sure they keep up.

 

[cary328is]

annoying though isn't it? The politics, greed, and control that Apple demands in its products is one reason I'm going to love the EVO even more. No matter what the reason, the fact that we're even discussing including a technology that 80% (not really sure the percent) of the internet uses in a device is ridiculous. I'm glad we're going to have that "fuller" experience with the EVO.

 

[Android 17]

If I had godly control of the English language, I would ban the use of of the words "Iphone" and "Killer" in the same sentence.

Most overstated and useless phrase ever.

 

[LatinP]

annoying though isn't it? The politics, greed, and control that Apple demands in its products is one reason I'm going to love the EVO even more. No matter what the reason, the fact that we're even discussing including a technology that 80% (not really sure the percent) of the internet uses in a device is ridiculous. I'm glad we're going to have that "fuller" experience with the EVO.

Well when it comes to the tablet pc market right now they really are in a league all their own because not many people have ever explored it outside maybe a professional environment, now that the new "toy" is around they want to make sure they get as much revenue as possible. Unleashing flash would be risky because of sites like hulu which offer outstanding media experiences for no cost and that would kill their itunes revenue.

That being said they'll have no choice when it comes to cellphones, one mistake they do NOT want to make is being the only smart phone on the market without flash support that would be bad, really bad for them. As far as them trying to monopolize a market, it's what they do best. Prime example would be their latest lawsuit vs HTC. Come on... look at some of those patents unlocking a screen by making a gesture on the screen? What's next you want to patent the way you hold your phone? Seriously...

 

[cary328is]

As far as them trying to monopolize a market, it's what they do best. Prime example would be their latest lawsuit vs HTC. Come on... look at some of those patents unlocking a screen by making a gesture on the screen? What's next you want to patent the way you hold your phone? Seriously...

HA! Excellent point! Those lawsuits are utterly ridiculous. Thanks for all your input LatinP. 2 more months for the EVO!!!

 

[mconigs78]

One thing that bothers me is that the new iphone will be called 4gs or whatever since its there 4th gen phone. Most of my friends have iphones and they are jealous of the EVO but then they said the iphone4g is coming out to compete with it. I think when people here 4g wimax then they hear iphone 4g they think right away damn i need to buy that iphone since it has 4g. Anyone else see what im saying. I have too much coffee right now to type straight.

 

[LatinP]

One thing that bothers me is that the new iphone will be called 4gs or whatever since its there 4th gen phone. Most of my friends have iphones and they are jealous of the EVO but then they said the iphone4g is coming out to compete with it. I think when people here 4g wimax then they hear iphone 4g they think right away damn i need to buy that iphone since it has 4g. Anyone else see what im saying. I have too much coffee right now to type straight.

Yeah some people will confuse the 4th generation iPhone with the Evo's 4G connectivity. But that's an easy one to put to rest if you have 4G in your area just do a speed test or simply ask them to switch their radio to 4G.

 

[mconigs78]

true but to the common everyday user most do not know how to flash or jailbreak or root. Ex. someones parents, grandparents people that arent tech savy will be like wow that iphone is 4g so im gonna get it. and they will then they are stuck with it which is there fault lol. but it bumps there sales up even more.

 

[twospirits]

I don't think Sprint is making this phone as the iPhone.iPad killer. Just on marketing alone, those two will The bottom line is that like Bill said, we will have the best phone on the best network and with the best prices. the EVO, but Sprint is not dumb in this regard, in fact it sees an opportunity and is already taken it to the next level. Why try to bash or put down a possible competitor when you can enhance your competitors product (knowing full well people will buy it anyway regardless if it's due to marketing or not) and make it better on your own network. They are doing it in a few commercials and will continue to promote the 4G network as the faster one. This also brings it in line to not bash the iPhone in case it does appear on the Now Network in the future. Thereby avoiding a put down of the product like Adobe has done to Apple in regard to Flash.

TS

 

[cary328is]

I don't think Sprint is making this phone as the iPhone.iPad killer. Just on marketing alone, those two will The bottom line is that like Bill said, we will have the best phone on the best network and with the best prices. the EVO, but Sprint is not dumb in this regard, in fact it sees an opportunity and is already taken it to the next level. Why try to bash or put down a possible competitor when you can enhance your competitors product (knowing full well people will buy it anyway regardless if it's due to marketing or not) and make it better on your own network. They are doing it in a few commercials and will continue to promote the 4G network as the faster one. This also brings it in line to not bash the iPhone in case it does appear on the Now Network in the future. Thereby avoiding a put down of the product like Adobe has done to Apple in regard to Flash.

TS

Very true...which is kind of weird that the rumors are speculating the CDMA iPhone to go to Verizon when they spent so much marketing for the Droid and did those commercials to "bash" the iPhone for the things that it can't do. Last time Sprint tried to do this was the Instinct marketing campaign. I'd like to see the iPhone come to Sprint honestly. It just means more choices for more customers thus better business for Sprint. I don't buy into the whole "iPhone killer" hype. Why try to "Kill" a product that can co exist in the same network? Competition between phone manufacturers is good. It encourages innovation and brings more choices for us

 

[twospirits]

Very true...which is kind of weird that the rumors are speculating the CDMA iPhone to go to Verizon when they spent so much marketing for the Droid and did those commercials to "bash" the iPhone for the things that it can't do. Last time Sprint tried to do this was the Instinct marketing campaign. I'd like to see the iPhone come to Sprint honestly. It just means more choices for more customers thus better business for Sprint. I don't buy into the whole "iPhone killer" hype. Why try to "Kill" a product that can co exist in the same network? Competition between phone manufacturers is good. It encourages innovation and brings more choices for us

Seriously true, from what I read, the iPhone was offered to Verizon first, they said no. So it went to AT&T. As much as Jobs is so fickle about people bashing his products, why would he give the iPhone 4G to Verizon. With Sprint promoting the iPhone indirectly (more directly) in their commercials will make me (If I was Jobs) give them a better advantage in getting the new iPhone than Verizon which has bad mouth them in the past.
Personally, some will object the iPhone bing on Sprint, but it will benefit Sprint not only in new customers, but also prove that it can handle the extra load as oppose to AT&T.

TS out

 

[So-Low Da Don]

iPhones are played out, Android is the future!! Plus I always hated having 1 button, its so ugly. Plus the only thing that iPhone does better is apps.

 

[So-Low Da Don]

I just noticed that AT&T was nothing before the iPhone, I just thought of it as the crappy company that crappy Cingular merged with and all of a sudden the iPhone happens and AT&T is on the map

 

[Eguy]

I just noticed that AT&T was nothing before the iPhone, I just thought of it as the crappy company that crappy Cingular merged with and all of a sudden the iPhone happens and AT&T is on the map

And they will be nothing when the iPhone goes on a different carrier.

 

[LatinP]

I just noticed that AT&T was nothing before the iPhone, I just thought of it as the crappy company that crappy Cingular merged with and all of a sudden the iPhone happens and AT&T is on the map

Huh?! You've never heard of AT&T before they "merged" with Cingular? Ok first AT&T never merged with Cingular AT&T was Cingular they simply changed names for a brief period. Before Cingular they were called AT&T. I'm no AT&T fan or anything but AT&T has been around longer than your grandfather & probably your great-grandfather. My mom has had an AT&T land line at her house since I was born I'm not 90 or anything but for at least 32 years.

The company was established in the 19th century they were the parent company of Bell Systems back them monopolizing the phone market with zero competition, it is by far the oldest major US carrier still alive and when I say by far I mean by decades. I'm not saying they are a good carrier or anything I'm just in shock when you say I've never heard of them before Cingular.

Here is a link:
Home| History| AT&T

EDIT: Spelling - God I feel old after reading that again.

 

[twospirits]

True, AT&T was here for a long time, and Cingular was (not so long) but also here.

TS

 

[Eguy]

True, AT&T was here for a long time, and Cingular was (not so long) but also here.

TS

I had AT&T before they changed to Cingular with my old Nokia 6190 . Ahh the good ol' days.

 

[Tasmin]

Very true...which is kind of weird that the rumors are speculating the CDMA iPhone to go to Verizon when they spent so much marketing for the Droid and did those commercials to "bash" the iPhone for the things that it can't do. Last time Sprint tried to do this was the Instinct marketing campaign. I'd like to see the iPhone come to Sprint honestly. It just means more choices for more customers thus better business for Sprint. I don't buy into the whole "iPhone killer" hype. Why try to "Kill" a product that can co exist in the same network? Competition between phone manufacturers is good. It encourages innovation and brings more choices for us

I completely agree; for those of us sick of the AT&T / Verizon commercial wars, it's refreshing to see a company that is able to promote it's own products rather than just bash the competition. In fact, Sprint's positive approach was one of the deciding factors in my fiance deciding to leave AT&T for Sprint a couple of months ago.

And, alas, I miss Cingular. I can't speak for it's data capacity since I never had anything other than a basic phone with them, but I happily wandered all over the eastern US with them and never had a problem (also never had a billing issue). AT&T has tried to #$%@! me over more times than I can count. I can't wait to see the last of them when I switch as soon as E-day hits!

 

[dbpaddler]

who really cares at this point? it's just a phone. if it fits your needs, buy it. The whole phone war thing is just old and tired. Let the phone sell on its own merits, plain and simple. HTC does their commercials right. Sprint takes the high road in their commercials. That's the key to success, not bickering he said/she said commercials and advertising.

The funny thing with AT&T, they completely downplay 3g. They talk about cell phone coverage with no regard to data speed and the ability to talk and surf which I bet a majority of the people do or would use that capability less than 10% of the time.

 

[evotitans]

I do think, that the thought of Apple calling the next Iphone, the Iphone 4G, sounds like false advertisement.

If people truly understand wht 4G stands for, it just doesnt seem right to call something a 4G phone( Although it is the 4th generation Iphone) when its just a name, and isnt powered with 4G speeds.

The only way I think Sprint tries to steal Apple's thunder, is by mentioning the Evo as the EVO 4G phone....when people hear that and hear Iphone 4G and find out what the true meaning is, they would certainly starting asking what is the EVO 4G.

 

[SprintFun]

I'll quote the title:
"There’s No Flash on iPad"

Yes on the iPad, a few years ago Adobe and Apple would give an arm and a leg to have flash support on the iPhone in fact Adobe had a semi working client for Safari on iPhoneOS which never surfaced because it kept crashing in the lab after stress tests were conducted. After long and hard soul searching they concluded that flash on an iPhone would be impossible because of hardware limitations.

There won't be Flash support on the iPhone either. Adobe last week told their investors that they may not reach earnings potential because of Apple and their competing technology (HTML5). You don't tell your investor relations that if behind the scenes in 2 months it will be a non-issue. During the OS 4 unveiling, in the Q&A session somebody asked Steve Jobs if Flash support was coming and he gave a very cold "no" response.

The Flash/iWhatever ship has sailed.

Some links:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/18/adobe-ceo-flash-coming-to-android-webos-and-blackberry-smartp/ (If it was coming to Apple, why wouldn't they say so? They have in the past...)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/apples-iphone-lockdown-apps-must-be-written-in-one-of-three-la/ (This is a direct strike at Adobe)

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/09/adobe-says-iphone-ipad-adoption-and-alternative-technologies/ (You wouldn't tell your investors this - and significantly hurt your business - unless it had real weight)