Samsung Note 3 64gb

[icedteafortom]

Am I the only person who would like to purchase a 64gb internal Samsung Note 3? I would switch to a different carrier if I could find the 64gb version but it looks like no one is going to offer. I wish one of the carriers would step up because I definitely want a 64gb and I think sales would be excellent. Anyone else want a 64gb option?

 

[The_Chief]

Hi and welcome to Android Forums!

I would LOVE a 64GB Note 3... however, it has become clear to me that such a device is not available for me (on Verizon) and probably won't be. Therefore, I improvised: a Samsung Professional Series 64GB Class 10 microSD card for under $1 a GB shipped at Amazon! Class 10 speed is nearly as fast as onboard speed (maybe benchmarks can tell the difference... I'm not a benchmark), and will very likely be cheaper. Plus, it's removable.

In essence, I will have a 96GB phone for less than the price of a 64GB phone. And all things considered, that's a pretty good deal to me

 

[drexappeal]

Am I the only person who would like to purchase a 64gb internal Samsung Note 3? I would switch to a different carrier if I could find the 64gb version but it looks like no one is going to offer. I wish one of the carriers would step up because I definitely want a 64gb and I think sales would be excellent. Anyone else want a 64gb option?

No, you're not the only person. And I've been wanting a 64gb version since I got my Note 2 last year (and was slightly disappointed that nothing more than a 16gb was released in the US). At the same time, I'm not willing to switch providers for that reason alone.

I've been hoping that Sprint had paid extra to get the exclusive on a 64gb version, but we won't know until Sprint formally announces a release date and availability, as well as pricing. I'll be fine with the 32gb version, but am hoping/praying for the 64. Sprint is the only one of the 4 big US providers, that hasn't mentioned a formal release date or pricing.

 

[taxiron1]

Am I the only person who would like to purchase a 64gb internal Samsung Note 3? I would switch to a different carrier if I could find the 64gb version but it looks like no one is going to offer. I wish one of the carriers would step up because I definitely want a 64gb and I think sales would be excellent. Anyone else want a 64gb option?

I am curious why that is so important to you ? With the 64gb micro card, you have over 90gb of storage on a phone. And your system will run smoother if you keep as much "stuff" on your SD card, rathet than onboard. It wasnt that long ago that the average PC had 100gb.

BTW, per VZW, they will not be getting the 64gb N3. Its probably a non US model.

 

[The_Chief]

I have to wonder why the international folks get a 64Gb model and the US folks don't. Do they just need more storage over there?

 

[drexappeal]

I am curious why that is so important to you ? With the 64gb micro card, you have over 90gb of storage on a phone. And your system will run smoother if you keep as much "stuff" on your SD card, rathet than onboard. It wasnt that long ago that the average PC had 100gb.

BTW, per VZW, they will not be getting the 64gb N3. Its probably a non US model.

Just speaking from my own personal needs, the more storage available, the better. Everything I do in both my personal and professional life revolves around media files. And large media files at that.

Additionally, games and some video apps cannot be moved to the SD.

 

[Crosley123]

I want the 64gb version too! For those with unlimited data plans and great cell coverage, storage may not be an issue. But for me with zero cell coverage at work it is a HUGE issue. And everyone treats SD storage and internal storage the same and they simply are *not*.
My 2 cents.

 

[Scootmien]

I have to wonder why the international folks get a 64Gb model and the US folks don't. Do they just need more storage over there?

We don't here in the UK. I asked in a couple of shops and they all said they are getting the 32Gb version of the Note 3. It was the same with the HTC One too, we didn't get the 64Gb version of that either.

 

[drexappeal]

I have to wonder why the international folks get a 64Gb model and the US folks don't. Do they just need more storage over there?

I know for the Note 2, it wasn't even expanded to all International versions, just available in Korea and select regions. Only logical reason I could think of for it not being available in the different regions is import costs/mark up, compared to the 16gb.

 

[drexappeal]

I want the 64gb version too! For those with unlimited data plans and great cell coverage, storage may not be an issue. But for me with zero cell coverage at work it is a HUGE issue. And everyone treats SD storage and internal storage the same and they simply are *not*.
My 2 cents.

I agree. My big thing about having extra storage is being able to watch video and listen to music flawlessly, without any concerns of buffering or skipping, due to data/wifi hiccups.

Unfortunately, I would never consider my needs the same as the "general" consumer. I'm still holding onto a glimmer of hope that Sprint might offer the 64gb, but I'm not holding my breathe. The 32 is much more manageable than the 16 in my Note 2, currently.

I have a feeling I'll be upgrading my Note 8 eventually, for the same reasons, as the more time that goes by, the more I realize how much media actually eats up the internal storage space for me. That's not even taking into consideration my having filled up both my Note 2 and Note 8 microSD's (both 64gb).

 

[taxiron1]

I know for the Note 2, it wasn't even expanded to all International versions, just available in Korea and select regions. Only logical reason I could think of for it not being available in the different regions is import costs/mark up, compared to the 16gb.

My guess is that it has something to do with the U.S. and UK carriers not getting it for contractual, competitive or marketing reasons.Remember, VZW, AT&T , T Mobile, Vodafone, Rogers, etc. all sell multiple brand phones. They may have a marketing agreement that they cant sell a certain phone unles at least 2 other competitors have the same features, or something crazy like that. My bet is that the 64gb model lands in Asia.

 

[redpill2016]

It could also be the carriers just don't want to deal with a second model for stocking purposes. If you think about all the retail stores and all the phones they have to manage, it's probably not a priority for them, especially if they know other carriers won't have it either. Keep in mind their goal is get you to sign up for the contract, that's where they make the most money. A lot of the hardware cost is a pass-through to the manufacturer.

 

[drexappeal]

My guess is that it has something to do with the U.S. and UK carriers not getting it for contractual, competitive or marketing reasons.Remember, VZW, AT&T , T Mobile, Vodafone, Rogers, etc. all sell multiple brand phones. They may have a marketing agreement that they cant sell a certain phone unles at least 2 other competitors have the same features, or something crazy like that. My bet is that the 64gb model lands in Asia.

I don't quite believe that though. ATT and Verizon both got 32gb versions of the S4, while Sprint and T-Mobile did not. Those are the 4 major carriers in the US.

I think it purely comes down to the highest bidder and how high they are willing to go, in order for the OEM's to make the higher memory versions for those particular carriers. In ATT and Verizon's case, it makes sense that they bid high to get the 32gb versions, to offer their customers, because they're the #1 and #2 carriers in the US and the probability of their selling those versions, to make a profit for all involved, might be higher than Sprint and T-Mobile.

That's why part of me thinks that if there is a carrier that might get the higher memory version, it'd be Sprint putting out the money to get the Note 3 in 64gb form. When the Note 2 was released, it was actually the most popular device, next to the iPhone, on Sprint. I'm hoping that my logic is correct, as I've been on Sprint for 13 years.

That all said, this is really just hypothetical. We'll see what the final outcome is, once Sprint has "officially" made a statement about the Note 3, which they still have yet to do (other than signing up for notification when it's actually available for sale).

 

[mak916]

As mush as I would like to see Sprint get the 64GB version of the Note 3, I highly doubt they will. And if they do, it will not be for some time later. AT&T seems to be getting all the exclusives first. Look at the HTC ONE 64GB phone. AT&T was the only one that got it here in the US. And right now AT&T are the only ones with the Moto Maker for the Moto X. But all that said, I hope Sprint can get the 64GB Note 3.

 

[Crosley123]

This explains it: Why the Samsung Galaxy S4 Micro SD Card is Useless

 

[drexappeal]

This explains it: Why the Samsung Galaxy S4 Micro SD Card is Useless

Very good explanation and goes through similar issues I've had with only 16gb internal storage (10gb of usable). I've already run into the issue on my Note 2. I'm on the borderline of having the problem on my Note 8.

Samsung must have listened to many of the Note 2 owners gripes, when the Note 2 was initially announced having 16/32/64 gb versions, but only having the 16gb on all of the providers.

Heck, I wouldn't even mind if I had to "special order" the 64gb version, as long as I could actually order it and wait for delivery. That's if they're just worried about stocking up on the higher memory versions, but never being able to move them.

Through all the excuses that I've seen throughout the years, none of them have truly been "valid" excuses to me, just more PR in the hopes that people keep buying into the BS. And because of that BS, I bet the follow-up to the Note 8, ends up having 32gb internal (minimum) as well.

 

[Preach2k]

I never had any of those problems nor any of my friends with Note 2 or Galaxy s4.

 

[taxiron1]

It could also be the carriers just don't want to deal with a second model for stocking purposes. If you think about all the retail stores and all the phones they have to manage, it's probably not a priority for them, especially if they know other carriers won't have it either. Keep in mind their goal is get you to sign up for the contract, that's where they make the most money. A lot of the hardware cost is a pass-through to the manufacturer.

Very good point. These resellers have limited shelf space and a 64gb would probably not be a good price point seller, so just stock the 32gb. I am guessing the average smart phone buyer isnt going to cough up another $100+ for 32gb more storage. Most of us would pay it, but were not average smart phone consumers.... lol

 

[jetguat]

I dont fully understand this issue. Please help me out.

Example, I have Motorola Droid Bionic. The first real LTE smartphone out there. Its has 16GB internal storage and a external sd slot, in which I have a 64GB card. My droid is running Android 4.1.2. I believe that the 16GB is split into two 8GB chunks thought.

I have the option within any app setting to "Move to Internal Storage" "Move to phone". Is this moving to/from SD card?

When I look at my SD card, of course I see saved movies, mp3, photos. but there is an android data directory also.

I have apps that save data (like Titanium Backup or KeePassDroid) to the removable SD card.

Can someone explain the memory structure on the Note 3 vs Bionic. are they different or the same. When I move apps to the SD card on my Bionic.. am I really only moving to the 2nd 8GB chunk or onto the 64GB card I have. thanks

 

[drexappeal]

I dont fully understand this issue. Please help me out.

Example, I have Motorola Droid Bionic. The first real LTE smartphone out there. Its has 16GB internal storage and a external sd slot, in which I have a 64GB card. My droid is running Android 4.1.2. I believe that the 16GB is split into two 8GB chunks thought.

I have the option within any app setting to "Move to Internal Storage" "Move to phone". Is this moving to/from SD card?

When I look at my SD card, of course I see saved movies, mp3, photos. but there is an android data directory also.

I have apps that save data (like Titanium Backup or KeePassDroid) to the removable SD card.

Can someone explain the memory structure on the Note 3 vs Bionic. are they different or the same. When I move apps to the SD card on my Bionic.. am I really only moving to the 2nd 8GB chunk or onto the 64GB card I have. thanks

Since ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich), Google removed the ability to move apps to the SD card. So, even if it may indicate that apps are moved to the SD card (especially on older devices that got upgraded to ICS from Gingerbread), they might not work properly anymore.

On the Note 2, there is no "partition" of the internal storage, which was something that Motorola used to do with the internal storage (On the Motorola Photon, internal storage was split 8gb usable, 3gb apps, remainder for system). All of the internal storage is located in the same place (e.g. system files, app storage, and whatever else you want). So, out of 16gb, 6gb is used for Samsung's system info, as well as carrier bloat, and other miscellaneous files. That leaves 10gb of usable internal storage, which would be used for apps, games, and downloads that are not usable when moved to the SD, due to an app's protocol for reading the file.

As for saving "data" from apps, that's a different story. There are still many apps that allow for "backup" settings to be saved to the external SD. That still isn't an issue at all. Prior to ICS, users had the ability to completely (for the most part) move apps to the external SD card, so that only a minimal amount of internal storage was used for the app to still run. From my understanding, that is no longer a possibility to move majority of an app's protocol over to the SD, unless one roots the phone and performs the hack that identifies the internal storage as the microSD and vice versa.

 

[jetguat]

Since ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich), Google removed the ability to move apps to the SD card. So, even if it may indicate that apps are moved to the SD card (especially on older devices that got upgraded to ICS from Gingerbread), they might not work properly anymore.

On the Note 2, there is no "partition" of the internal storage, which was something that Motorola used to do with the internal storage (On the Motorola Photon, internal storage was split 8gb usable, 3gb apps, remainder for system). All of the internal storage is located in the same place (e.g. system files, app storage, and whatever else you want). So, out of 16gb, 6gb is used for Samsung's system info, as well as carrier bloat, and other miscellaneous files. That leaves 10gb of usable internal storage, which would be used for apps, games, and downloads that are not usable when moved to the SD, due to an app's protocol for reading the file.

As for saving "data" from apps, that's a different story. There are still many apps that allow for "backup" settings to be saved to the external SD. That still isn't an issue at all. Prior to ICS, users had the ability to completely (for the most part) move apps to the external SD card, so that only a minimal amount of internal storage was used for the app to still run. From my understanding, that is no longer a possibility to move majority of an app's protocol over to the SD, unless one roots the phone and performs the hack that identifies the internal storage as the microSD and vice versa.

Interesting thanks for the response. That explains some. Its a confusing move by Android to do that. And it partially explains why the external SD losses some of its value/appeal. I do plan to root my SN3 when it comes. I've not found the good forums to help with that, since its not out yet. Will need to look around for apps or hack that will mount the external sd to appear as an internal. I guess that what we would like right? then we'd effectively have a 96GB device.

 

[drexappeal]

Interesting thanks for the response. That explains some. Its a confusing move by Android to do that. And it partially explains why the external SD losses some of its value/appeal. I do plan to root my SN3 when it comes. I've not found the good forums to help with that, since its not out yet. Will need to look around for apps or hack that will mount the external sd to appear as an internal. I guess that what we would like right? then we'd effectively have a 96GB device.

No problem. That's a big reason why many of the OEM's no longer add microSD slots on their devices. It's not really a "confusing" move (maybe only for general consumers that don't really comprehend the tech or haven't read up on it enough), it was actually quite calculated by Google because of 1) Having people rely more on cloud storage (e.g. Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, etc...) and 2) Cleaning up any potential performance issues, due to apps/programs needing to run from an external drive (which, in essence, the microSD provides). I personally do not like relying on cloud storage because internet connection has not become fluid enough, for my tastes, to know that I can access my files anywhere and everywhere I go, without a hitch. I much prefer downloaded/stored files locally (whether on internal or external storage).

As for rooting the device in order to switch the protocol to identify the internal as external and vice versa, I think it purely depends on need. Based on NZtechfreak's thread (http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...did-i-think-z1-808-s4-cam-comparison-too.html), 25gb of usable storage should actually suffice for me. Of course, my preference is always for as much storage space as possible, but 25gb useable as compared to the 10gb useable on the Note 2, provides for a lot more flexibility.

And just to clarify, one would already have 96gb of storage (regardless of rooting), which would actually translate to 84gb (based on the "usable"/available storage space). It's just a matter of determining, for each individual, if it's more crucial to have the internal storage bigger vs. the external. For me personally, I'd prefer having the same amount...but in settling with the 25gb usable internal (of the 32gb), that should be enough for apps/games/video player downloads (e.g. Flixster) that I use personally, while still being able to store music/pictures/video files on my microSD card, that can play from there without a hitch.

 

[jetguat]

No problem. That's a big reason why many of the OEM's no longer add microSD slots on their devices. It's not really a "confusing" move (maybe only for general consumers that don't really comprehend the tech or haven't read up on it enough), it was actually quite calculated by Google because of 1) Having people rely more on cloud storage (e.g. Google Drive, Dropbox, Box, etc...) and 2) Cleaning up any potential performance issues, due to apps/programs needing to run from an external drive (which, in essence, the microSD provides). I personally do not like relying on cloud storage because internet connection has not become fluid enough, for my tastes, to know that I can access my files anywhere and everywhere I go, without a hitch. I much prefer downloaded/stored files locally (whether on internal or external storage).

As for rooting the device in order to switch the protocol to identify the internal as external and vice versa, I think it purely depends on need. Based on NZtechfreak's thread (http://androidforums.com/samsung-ga...did-i-think-z1-808-s4-cam-comparison-too.html), 25gb of usable storage should actually suffice for me. Of course, my preference is always for as much storage space as possible, but 25gb useable as compared to the 10gb useable on the Note 2, provides for a lot more flexibility.

And just to clarify, one would already have 96gb of storage (regardless of rooting), which would actually translate to 84gb (based on the "usable"/available storage space). It's just a matter of determining, for each individual, if it's more crucial to have the internal storage bigger vs. the external. For me personally, I'd prefer having the same amount...but in settling with the 25gb usable internal (of the 32gb), that should be enough for apps/games/video player downloads (e.g. Flixster) that I use personally, while still being able to store music/pictures/video files on my microSD card, that can play from there without a hitch.

Props for the helpful answer. If indeed some of the apps I used to use (funny how we download apps/games.. then after time we stop using them) on my Bionic are not working properly and need to be within the remaining 16GB of the internal memory, then I would agree that 25GB is probably enough. I dont use much cloud storage yet, certainly not for music. So if the external SD can hold my media files (music, movies, ebooks, photos, etc) then I'm good as well. I do convert some of my own purchase movies into mp4 to play (not to share). So as long as I can use a video player on those files (from the external SD) I'm happy. Is that how it works on the GS4 and N3?

 

[drexappeal]

Props for the helpful answer. If indeed some of the apps I used to use (funny how we download apps/games.. then after time we stop using them) on my Bionic are not working properly and need to be within the remaining 16GB of the internal memory, then I would agree that 25GB is probably enough. I dont use much cloud storage yet, certainly not for music. So if the external SD can hold my media files (music, movies, ebooks, photos, etc) then I'm good as well. I do convert some of my own purchase movies into mp4 to play (not to share). So as long as I can use a video player on those files (from the external SD) I'm happy. Is that how it works on the GS4 and N3?

Oh, if you do conversions on your own (for video) and they are not drm encrypted, then you'll definitely be fine keeping those on the microSD (which is part of the reason I prefer devices that keep that format). Granted, I do have a OTG (On The Go) USB connector to use, but I hate having to connect it if I don't need to. The only reason I initially purchased that was if I wanted to do a quick transfer from a flash drive, onto my phone (and I didn't have time to do it wirelessly through the PC).

 

[The_Chief]

I am buying MORE memory than I think I need, simply because I know a that 13mp shooter and 1080p recorded video* will eat up a ton of storage. 4k? Even more. But I don't have a 4k TV, so I'll be shooting little to none of that.




*- While the Note 3 is capable of recording at 60fps, I strongly advise against doing so: I, for example, have pretty much top-of-the-line gear in my house and none of it plays video back at 60fps. So I would essentially be stuck watching it on the phone. If you're going to record 60fps, check to make sure you have something to enjoy it with