No Nexus 5 for Verizon

[jova33]

Is T-Mobile the only ones to offer the bring your own device pricing?
I know buying a phone outright for VZW is pointless because you're still paying subsidized pricing, so you're paying twice for the same phone. I considered the Moto X dev edition, but then decided against it for that reason.

 

[jhawkkw]

Is T-Mobile the only ones to offer the bring your own device pricing?
I know buying a phone outright for VZW is pointless because you're still paying subsidized pricing, so you're paying twice for the same phone. I considered the Moto X dev edition, but then decided against it for that reason.

Unfortunately yes. However one of the perks of buying am unlocked GSM phone is the ability to carrier hop, use mvno carriers like straight talk and aio. They're not the best though if you use a lot of data because they have throttle points of hard caps that if you go over too often they cut your service off. But if you don't, why pay AT&T prices when you can use their service including lte for 45 or 55 a month per phone.

 

[SEMIJim]

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[kyler13]

Which does not suit VZW's preference for customer lock-in.


Which is kind of odd, because, as of the about two years ago, when VZW and Motorola did a joint new product announcement, it looked like they were married at the hips.


I don't know about "too big to care." I admin our company wireless plan, which is with VZW. I've been very, very happy with them. They're just too darn expensive for me, and I dislike the lock-in thing.


I think so.

I'm hoping, really, really hoping, that T-Mobile is outrageously successful with their model and forces the other carriers to follow suit. But VZW and "at&t," at least, won't go easily. It is to their customers' benefit, not theirs.

The way T-Mobile's operating is kind of the way Sprint originally operated, except you did have to buy the phone from Sprint. Taking it somewhere else was not really much an issue, at the time, because there really was no place else to take a PCS phone .

Jim

Hold that thought until late next year when Verizon is ready to ditch CDMA (or start ditching it in the form of 4g only phones). I think people fail to understand the complexity of operating a minority standard network when it comes to dealing with global manufacturers that are more interested in global economies of scale. I'm betting you'll see the Nexus 6 (or whatever) with full US LTE support once Verizon and Sprint implement VoLTE.

The European model works for Europe, but US geography dictated a different strategy from the advent of mobile communication. A commitment to LTE by the big four is a huge step forward. We just need our government to go the last mile type make sure the unsubsidized model moves forward beyond this decade.

 

[jhawkkw]

Hold that thought until late next year when Verizon is ready to ditch CDMA (or start ditching it in the form of 4g only phones). I think people fail to understand the complexity of operating a minority standard network when it comes to dealing with global manufacturers that are more interested in global economies of scale. I'm betting you'll see the Nexus 6 (or whatever) with full US LTE support once Verizon and Sprint implement VoLTE.

The European model works for Europe, but US geography dictated a different strategy from the advent of mobile communication. A commitment to LTE by the big four is a huge step forward. We just need our government to go the last mile type make sure the unsubsidized model moves forward beyond this decade.

I have one fear moving forward and it's how the whole Verizon/Nexus 7 fiasco has gone so far. GSM carriers don't put EVERY device through rigorous network testing before allowing them to be activated like Verizon does. There's just simply too many devices that are possible to do so. Yet, Verizon has thus far insisted on doing that with their LTE only network as proven with the Nexus 7.

 

[kyler13]

I have one fear moving forward and it's how the whole Verizon/Nexus 7 fiasco has gone so far. GSM carriers don't put EVERY device through rigorous network testing before allowing them to be activated like Verizon does. There's just simply too many devices that are possible to do so. Yet, Verizon has thus far insisted on doing that with their LTE only network as proven with the Nexus 7.

Yes, the overly thorough stance Verizon is taking is ridiculous. I still think allowing such devices will be financially easier for them, but they have to simply let go with this need to test everything to death.

 

[jhawkkw]

Yes, the overly thorough stance Verizon is taking is ridiculous. I still think allowing such devices will be financially easier for them, but they have to simply let go with this need to test everything to death.

Exactly. The FCC certified it therefore saying it will work. That should be enough.