Battery Life

[hmorneau]

I have the WiFi on, network on, Bluetooth on, Google now on, ok Google on, the screen shut down after 10 minutes of inactivity and I still have a very good battery life.

I'm on Rogers network.

 

[jhawkkw]

I don't root. would that make a difference? android os has always been second every time i checked. but android system has always been first. screen comes in third, no matter how much i use it it seems.

Root won't make an immediate impact on your battery life, but it will give you access to more tools that could help give you battery life. Greenify is a root based app that many swear really help battery life. I've never tried it, so I don't really know much about it. It will also give you the ability to flash custom kernels and set their clock speed/voltage levels that can also help add battery life. I've seen some reports of people on xda getting 7 hours of screen time on the Nexus 5 by tinkering with all the options at their disposal.

 

[shelliewnj]

I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!

 

[Lona808]

So what would be the best first charge? When you first get it charge to 100% then drain it, or drain it then charge to 100%?

 

[jhawkkw]

I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!

Well, it's very hard to brick a Nexus. Unlike other devices, you don't have to go through exploiting security weakness to obtain root. However it does require you to unlock the bootloader which invokes a factory reset for security reasons. There are also toolkits that automate most of the process, so that the hardest part is setting up the drivers on your computer. However if you're happy with how things are, there's no real need to dive into all this and take unnecessary risks.

 

[jhawkkw]

So what would be the best first charge? When you first get it charge to 100% then drain it, or drain it then charge to 100%?

I just used it as is. These batteries don't really have "memory" like old rechargeable batteries did. Just avoid letting the battery completely die, and things should be fine.

 

[Lona808]

I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!

I'm not a develop or programmer but I've rooted all my androids except my HTC cause they take extra steps and I'm lazy. Lol
But anyway, my purpose of rooting is to experience more intuitive ROMs like MIUI and ParanoidAndroid. Most of the time they are faster, smoother, and have many more built in features. Clocking has to do with speed. When you see 2.3 dual core processor, that means that processor is clocked in at 2.3. Make sense? Sorry if not. Lol

But I've never owned a nexus so i may not root it since it doesn't come with bloatware and the new launcher looks nice as well as it supposedly being a speed racer with kitkat.

Bricking is rare and usually happens when people do not pay attention and complete the process incorrectly, or flash an incorrect ROM for a different of one/model. I suggest you look more into it if you want more from your android. Including access to the loads of root only apps on the play store.

 

[Lona808]

I just used it as is. These batteries don't really have "memory" like old rechargeable batteries did. Just avoid letting the battery completely die, and things should be fine.

What would letting it completely die do?

 

[jhawkkw]

What would letting it completely die do?

I'm not an electrical physics expert by any means, but it somehow messes with the battery's ability to collect a proper full charge. So it ages your battery faster than it normally would by decreasing it's maximum capacity. I say it's best to get the phone on the charger between 5-15 percent and to turn it off to prevent it from fully dying if you can't get to a charger to help prolong it's life. It's more important to take proper care of your battery with it being non-removable rather a standard replaceable one that is easy to just discard and replace with another.

 

[Rxpert83]

I am not a developer/programmer/etc and thus am extremely wary of rooting and bricking my device Not to mention if I did it successfully, I have no idea what you just said. HAHAHA. Flashing and clocking and voltage, oh my!

Root by itself just gives you more control. By itself it won't change anything, but it allows you so so things you wouldn't normally be able to. The great thing about a nexus is its insanely easy to root, and very hard to brick. Google provides us with everything we need to recover a device in case something goes wrong, so things that may "brick" a different device are no problem on a nexus.

If you're curious about learning more about rooting or what it allows you to do, we should probably move the topic into its own thread in the all things root section of the forums. :thumbup:

 

[Rxpert83]

What would letting it completely die do?

Keep in mind the phone will shut itself down before the battery completely dies. It does that to protect the battery from damage.

The risk of harm comes when the battery is discharged for extended periods of time and loses charge past that safe point, or if you continually try to power on the device after it shut itself down without recharging it.

 

[jhawkkw]

Just going through the 2012 Nexus 7 forum reveals many people having difficulty getting their device to turn back on and/or charge after letting the battery on it run empty.

 

[Rxpert83]

FDR helped hugely. Played a game for 2.5 hours straight and no heating and lost 35%

No more ART for me

 

[Deleted User]

Back, just unlocked by bootloader, rooted, and installed the Faux123 kernel, using TricksterMOD to adjust my voltages and all that. Anyone know a good CPU monitor to monitor my CPU voltages to see if TricksterMOD is doing its job? Hoping most of my battery savings will go through here. There are apparently some people with faux getting almost 6 hours of SOT.

 

[jhawkkw]

Back, just unlocked by bootloader, rooted, and installed the Faux123 kernel, using TricksterMOD to adjust my voltages and all that. Anyone know a good CPU monitor to monitor my CPU voltages to see if TricksterMOD is doing its job? Hoping most of my battery savings will go through here. There are apparently some people with faux getting almost 6 hours of SOT.

Faux Kernel was always a personal favorite of mine. If I remember correctly from 4.3, there can be issues with TicksterMod settings not sticking if you don't have busybox installed. Don't know if that holds true in 4.4 or not though.

 

[Deleted User]

Faux Kernel was always a personal favorite of mine. If I remember correctly from 4.3, there can be issues with TicksterMod settings not sticking if you don't have busybox installed. Don't know if that holds true in 4.4 or not though.

Yeah, I'm actually just gonna get Fauxclock by the end of tonight/tomorrow instead. Not really a fan of having to install multiple things from a third party app to work when Faux has his own app just chilling in the play store Heres to hoping my chip has a LOT of doping since this thing will see a lot of undervolting!

 

[Rxpert83]

Always been a Franco guy myself :beer: (when its been available for my device that is)

 

[Deleted User]

Always been a Franco guy myself :beer: (when its been available for my device that is)

*Just got Fauxclock, seems to work fine. Now looking for a good CPU monitor to see if my changes are taking effect.

I was looking heavily at Franco too, but it seems like one of those risk/reward situations where you benefit more in some ways but there seems to be some instability and bugs with it.

Faux seems to just be a win win situation

 

[Rxpert83]

Only hit against Franco right now is his nexus 5 hasn't arrived yet, but other than that I dont see any other downsides.

He's the official kernel Dev for the paranoidandroid Dev team

 

[Deleted User]

Only hit against Franco right now is his nexus 5 hasn't arrived yet, but other than that I dont see any other downsides.

He's the official kernel Dev for the paranoidandroid Dev team

Oh, no I've got nothing against either developer or either of their work seeing as I'm just a newbie. I'm simply stating what I see, and from what I see, Franco has some bugs going on for it is all while Faux seems to be without.

 

[jhawkkw]

I seem to have gotten a nasty wakelock from Hulu+ today. Never even opened the app today and yet it has eaten 25% of my battery and I can't even force stop it.

 

[Rxpert83]

Greenify it!

 

[jhawkkw]

Only hit against Franco right now is his nexus 5 hasn't arrived yet, but other than that I dont see any other downsides.

He's the official kernel Dev for the paranoidandroid Dev team

I think Faux123 use to be an AOKP dev, because it was always the kernel that came with AOKP on the Gnex for quite a while. I could be totally wrong though.

 

[jhawkkw]

Greenify it!

That's what I was planning to attempt, but I'm embarrased to say that I've never used it so I don't quite know how to use it

 

[Rxpert83]

That's what I was planning to attempt, but I'm embarrased to say that I've never used it so I don't quite know how to use it

Just download er, open it up, grant SU, hit the + sign, select the apps you want to freeze/greenify and you're good to go.

They won't run unless you open them