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Can we say s5?

It'll get its own Unpacked event I imagine.
Only thing I'm really interested in is seeing what Pebble announces. New hardware, software, app store?

Agree. That's what I am waiting for. I really want a smartphone now and I am wainting to see what Sam has up for their S5. If I'm not impressed, I may just get a Moto X or a Nexus 5.
 
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Not a product, but after yesterdays news between AT&T and T-Mobile it will be interesting to see what T-Mobile has planned for CES next week.

Rumor is they will pay your ETF to switch.

Unfortunately that site isn't loading, it's trying to connect to CloudFlare, which I think is United States only. Just getting blank pages. Can someone post what it says please. :)
 
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Unfortunately that site isn't loading, it's trying to connect to CloudFlare, which I think is United States only. Just getting blank pages. Can someone post what it says please. :)

You can't get to The Verge?
Partial transcript from Legere, Pres. of T-Mo:
This is a desperate move by AT&T on the heels of what must have been a terrible Q4 and holiday for them. I'm flattered that we have made them so uncomfortable! We used AT&T's cash to build a far superior network and added Un-carrier moves to take tons of their customers - and now they want to bribe them back! Consumers won't be fooled...nothing has changed; customers will still feel the same old pain that AT&T is famous for. Just wait until CES to hear what pain points we are eliminating next. The competition is going to be toast!
 
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Unfortunately that site isn't loading, it's trying to connect to CloudFlare, which I think is United States only. Just getting blank pages. Can someone post what it says please. :)

In anticipation of T-Mobile possibly reimbursing people for their ETF to switch, AT&T just announced they will pay customers who switch to AT&T.

T-Mobile CEO John Legere responded by saying:

This is a desperate move by AT&T on the heels of what must have been a terrible Q4 and holiday for them. I'm flattered that we have made them so uncomfortable! We used AT&T's cash to build a far superior network and added Un-carrier moves to take tons of their customers - and now they want to bribe them back! Consumers won't be fooled...nothing has changed; customers will still feel the same old pain that AT&T is famous for. Just wait until CES to hear what pain points we are eliminating next. The competition is going to be toast!
 
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I thought 2013 was supposed to be the year of "No glasses 3D"?

Anyway, I'm guessing there'll be a lot of 4K and maybe some curved screens there this year.

Maybe more from Ubuntu/Firefox OS?

Am I missing something here? Why would one want a curved screen on a TV set? They spent almost 80 years probably trying to get rid of the CRT, and now we have flat screens. Manufactuers did finally get to doing a flat screen CRT, but of course LCD and plasma took that over.

TBH 3D is dead, except in the cinema. If they can get a 3D TV to work without glasses and has wide viewing angle that will be interesting. Also we need to some 3D content to watch at home, besides the demonstration stuff.
 
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I agree that 3D is dead. At least in most British living rooms (and even more so in Japan) I doubt there's any real benefit to 4k, but the manufacturers have to try to persuade you to buy new kit somehow I guess.

Curved TV? Since only 1 person can sit at the focus of the curve it seems obvious to me that they aren't mass market. I'm guessing it will quietly fade out as yet another expensive gimmick in a year or so - but may get a "best in ces" in passing (a lot of duds have had those) ;)
 
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3DTV is dead in the US as well. Who wants to have to wear glasses to watch their TV, especially the expensive shutter ones? 4K TV is for the "look what I got" technophiles. Both of these also have a total lack of programming to watch.

I will like to see more and better portable electronics. I want to see devices with stellar battery life, not just a couple days with average light use. I know smartphones use way more power, but I would enjoy what my digital non smartphones were getting on a charge. Seeing a S5 would be nice, making the S4 less expensive.
 
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I wouldn't say 3D is dead, you can't buy a high-end tv without it. As for 4K content, it's the old chicken and egg thing, though Sony is making some of their blu-ray discs 4K compatible and the price of the sets is coming down. I haven't watched any myself, so can't say how much of an improvement it is. The biggest problem I see with 4K is with streaming, as the files will be huge.
 
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I wouldn't say 3D is dead, you can't buy a high-end tv without it.

Oh yeh, many TVs are 3D capable, but the glasses might be optional extra. And also finding anything 3D to watch, that isn't demonstration material, like nature and sports clips and things.

As for 4K content, it's the old chicken and egg thing, though Sony is making some of their blu-ray discs 4K compatible and the price of the sets is coming down. I haven't watched any myself, so can't say how much of an improvement it is. The biggest problem I see with 4K is with streaming, as the files will be huge.

HD had the chicken and egg thing when it was first introduced IMO, but eventually HD TVs became widely available, as did content, i.e. broadcast, downloads and Blu-ray. But as you say, 4K downloads are huge. Even colour TV was a chicken and egg thing from what I can remember. Our neighbour had a colour TV at great expense, in the late '60s UK, but most programmes were still in black and white.

Isn't Sony doing a 4K home theatre system? - which is basically a local server with hard drives. I also heard that shipping a hard drive overnight via Fedex has more bandwidth than most people's internet connection, i.e. it's quicker...LOL! That was on Leo Laporte's TWiT podcast.

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Amazon drones delivering hard drives to people's houses! 4K content delivery sorted.
 
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Unfortunately that site isn't loading, it's trying to connect to CloudFlare, which I think is United States only. Just getting blank pages. Can someone post what it says please. :)

It's definitely CloudFlare, was on another site that uses CloudFlare, and I had to do a CAPTCHA before I could view any content.

I would post a screen-shot but image uploads to AF seem to be broken at the moment. :mad: But it had this message...

Why do I have to complete a CAPTCHA?

Completing the CAPTCHA proves you are a human and gives you temporary access to the web property.

What can I do to prevent this in the future?

If you are on a personal connection, like at home, you can run an anti-virus scan on your device to make sure it is not infected with malware.
If you are at an office or shared network, you can ask the network administrator to run a scan across the network looking for misconfigured or infected devices.
CloudFlare Ray ID: e7e96ddfad30075 Your IP: 221.118.51.6
"virus-scan" "infected devices" ? :rolleyes: I'm using a Mac. ...and I'm on a personal home connection, not a "misconfigured network". ...and that is NOT my IP address....I checked.. "221.118.51.6" is in Japan with a .jp ISP. ...very likely their network that's misconfigured

Some of CloudFlare's clients have a United States only policy, well no Japan or China at least, and they're actively enforcing it?

IMO things on the internet and the cloud can really suck when they don't work right or geo-restricted. I wonder if anything at CES will be promoting the cloud? e.g. Google. ..or heaven forbid CloudFlare.
 
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I actually really like the padfone concept (never actually tried it out, but I'd like to)

Same, since it allows you to have a phone and a mobile data tablet in one device with awesome battery life since the tablet attachment has a second battery. I wonder if they'll allow a keyboard dock like they did with previous versions only available in Asia.
 
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