Scrolling through menus still a bit choppy?

[Quazar]

I know HTC improved the speed of the Hero, but it still looks choppy compared to the iPhone, scrolling on the iPhone looks so much smoother, why is this?

PS. Yes I do use a task manager

 

[cheggerspop]

I know HTC improved the speed of the Hero, but it still looks choppy compared to the iPhone, scrolling on the iPhone looks so much smoother, why is this?

PS. Yes I do use a task manager

Because Apple have had a year and a half (via three models) to get their stuff together with the iSheep and the Hero is only a few months old and Android only released just under a year ago.

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Chegs.

 

[Quazar]

So do you think there will be software improving this, or are you trying to say future HTC phones will sort it out?

Also, the iPhone has been pretty smooth from the start though tbh.

 

[i64X]

Also, the iPhone has been pretty smooth from the start though tbh.

This is true. It's not like the iPhone just got good with the 3GS model. Having had "three years" to work on the iPhone doesn't have anything to do with how well it's UI is done, or how fast it is. Proper memory and open app management does.

 

[cheggerspop]

This is true. It's not like the iPhone just got good with the 3GS model. Having had "three years" to work on the iPhone doesn't have anything to do with how well it's UI is done, or how fast it is. Proper memory and open app management does.

The iSheep was far from perfect in its first TWO incarnations. Not being able to forward text messages or receive picture messages for example.

Two very basic elements of the vast majority of other mobiles that were lacking.

Also, the Hero can run a number of apps at the same time.

And it's got a chin.....well in some parts of the world.

And it's called a Hero.

And it's ace.

So there!




Chegs.

 

[Quazar]

I'm not comparing it to other features of the iPhone, I'm just trying to say that its still choppy which I would have thought would have been ironed out after the HTC Dream, ofcourse the iPhone has never been perfect, and I'm not saying it is.
I much prefer my hero to an iPhone, but in terms of software speed, the iPhone wins and I just wish the hero had such smooth software. It is generally very smooth, just not in certain menus, such as the programs menu.

PS, I like how you call it the iSheep

 

[i64X]

Also, the Hero can run a number of apps at the same time.

This is really over-rated. I've got a Hero now, and an iPhone... and a Palm Treo Pro for work, and the wife just got a Pre and got rid of a Mogul.

The iPhone closes each app as you go back to the home screen, and re-launches the app when you open it again. Not really a huge deal because all of the apps launch fast enough, even on the 3G, that they never really seem "closed." The only exception to this is 3D games, which take a while to load.

It's true that the Hero can have multiple things open at the same time - but this also sucks, because it never closes anything for you. Which means that you have to explicitly hit the Menu button and then Exit an app with the app's exit feature (if it even has one) in order to close the app. If you don't do this, the app stays in memory, chewing up memory and CPU until you download a third party task manager application to close things you're not actually using but the phone leaves running.

Not a big deal at first, but when you use more and more programs, the device starts to get slower, CPU is chewed up and is constantly being utilized for stuff you thought you closed, battery life suffers, etc.

I shouldn't need a separate task manager app to close my programs manually. Not having multiple apps open on the iPhone is considered "bad" by everyone that doesn't have one, but I never saw this as a problem on that phone since a.) even "closed" apps launch so quickly - and I can get to them more quickly in the iPhone UI than on the Android UI and b.) I never needed a task manager program to go in and kill processes manually when my phone started getting slow.

Windows Mobile 5 was like that and it drove me nuts (clicking X to close didn't really CLOSE unless you tap and held it.) Having multiple apps open at the same time is my least favorite feature of my Hero (which doesn't have a chin, btw) and I wish I could turn it off. If I'm in something, like a browser, and I want to go back to the home screen - I should hit the home button and the browser process should end. The only exception to this should be a media player app or something similar so you can listen to music while you do other things on the device (which you could do with the iPhone).

Also, the whole "iSheep" thing was funny on Digg back in 2006. Not so much anymore... at all.

 

[leeladisky]

The iSheep was far from perfect in its first TWO incarnations. Not being able to forward text messages or receive picture messages for example.

Two very basic elements of the vast majority of other mobiles that were lacking.

Also, the Hero can run a number of apps at the same time.

And it's got a chin.....well in some parts of the world.

And it's called a Hero.

And it's ace.

So there!




Chegs.

Yeah - you lost me on this one too. A comparison of features isn't the point, because the Android phones win the v1 discussion, by far. It is a valid point to mention that those features, however, do not run as smoothly as other phones from a UI/multitask perspective. Another counter-point though: The iPhlop does NOT multitask, so it's a bit easier for a phone to be smooth when it closes an app the second it leaves the screen. I believe the latter is the biggest pro for the speed and "beauty" of the iPhlop UI.

Lee

 

[Maegoss]

The first two iPhone generations were considerably slower than the 3GS especially when opening and closing applications (I read it in an Apple forum). This is why lots of existing iPhone users are upgrading to the 3GS.

Multi-tasking usually is not important, except in some cases (see the iPhone handling a call and running a navigation software at the same time).

It is true though that the Hero's menus are still a bit sluggish sometimes (but acceptable) and the task management of the Android OS should be improved as well.

 

[MartinS]

Is it just not a fact that the processor in the Hero is not meaty enough?

Sense was made quicker mainly by dropping features such as animations, but HTC can't do that with menu scrolling can they?

 

[i64X]

The first two iPhone generations were considerably slower than the 3GS especially when opening and closing applications (I read it in an Apple forum). This is why lots of existing iPhone users are upgrading to the 3GS.

Having owned both, I disagree. I can't speak for the first gen iPhone - never had one of those, but for normal day to day stuff the 3G and 3GS aren't THAT much different unless you get in to some really CPU intensive stuff like loading games or big applications. I found zero difference in doing day to day stuff like making phone calls, checking email, taking notes, using tasks/calendar, etc.

Start running things like Google Maps and that's where the 3GS really shined.

I agree though - task management isn't an issue at all. It really shouldn't be on any smart phone since it's 2009 and we've gone through that crap already since the first iteration of Winmo - derived from Pocket PC 2003.

 

[ripkord]

To the OP: I cant say that I have noticed any lag since rooting, maybe you should try that. At your own risk of course

 

[Slug]

To the OP: I cant say that I have noticed any lag since rooting, maybe you should try that.

By itself rooting the handset will not give any performance benefits. What else did you do? Update to 2.73.xxx.x? Install a custom ROM?

 

[Fake Name]

A few of you brought up some good points. How about you all send your ideas to HTC and Google, and hope those ideas get implemented. Its cool and all that you have ideas, but they are useless if you not gonna give the to the UI developers

 

[PaulWilks]

If you keep on top of your app- ie close them when you finish using them, drag doesn't occur very often.... besides which donut should speed things up a bit when it's released.

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[Quazar]

The UI on the iPhone 3G (not 3GS) is still smoother and faster than the Hero.
The hardware is definitely not the issue, I believe its the fact that multitasking builds up in the background, everything becomes choppy unless you use a task manager to close it, which is annoying and inconvenient. I find myself having to kill applications with my task manager too often to keep the phone fast.

They really should implement an automatic task killer, or even a feature which reduces multitasking. The phone just can't handle too much multitasking.

Anyone know an app that automatically kills apps periodically?