No Lollipop yet.

[tanware]

Soon there will be an OTA upgrade too Lollipop, Android 5.0. If you believe reports around the net we could see it this month too. Now some were hoping for the 3rd but that has come and gone.

 

[Grey1001]

:lollypop:

:deal:

 

[BynoUK]

Wondered how long it'd be before I'd see a post about this on this board

My money is on the 12th as I've heard and seen information of such. I'm keeping an eye on the factory images, when it's on there it's go time.

 

[tanware]

My phone and tablet are both on CM11 M11 so I am hesitant to upgrade the tablet.

 

[tanware]

The general announcement is out;
https://twitter.com/android

 

[jhawkkw]

Factory image for Nexus 10 is out now.

 

[BynoUK]

Been using it for an hour or so now, I like it, but then I've been running the preview on the N5 and always liked it

 

[tanware]

Been using it for an hour or so now, I like it, but then I've been running the preview on the N5 and always liked it

With the new lollipop have they enabled the transparent bars? if not I will probably wait for the cm mod.

 

[ArmageddonX]

What is delaying the OTA on the Nexus 10?

 

[tanware]

I had not seen the final but of the video's available of the early builds there is no transparent task bar for the N10. Deal breaker for me so I will have to wait.

 

[nickdalzell]

What exactly is wrong with Google and omitting features like the transparency? a custom ROM guy did it ages ago in 4.4.2 but no update has it yet?!

Time to throw this thing in the garbage. even Samsung supports my Note 10.1 better.

 

[tanware]

What exactly is wrong with Google and omitting features like the transparency? a custom ROM guy did it ages ago in 4.4.2 but no update has it yet?!

Time to throw this thing in the garbage. even Samsung supports my Note 10.1 better.

At first, before having it, I thought of transparency as more of a gimmick. Now having it I can see it does give more of a flow feeling to the home screen. That is why it is a deal breaker for me.

Throw it out though, a bit drastic. I'll agree too that they have known for a while how to get it working for the N10 so just do it already. Otherwise at least I'll be waiting for the custom rom.

 

[BynoUK]

Can honestly say it doesn't bother me, my Nexus 5 has it, my Nexus 10 doesn't.

No big deal IMO. I'd prefer it if it had the transparent bars but it's not making my tablet any less useful.

 

[tanware]

That is it though, to me 5.0 has no features that make it more useful to me. That is why it is a deal breaker. Now if it did have a can not do without feature set you know I would be there. As it is with CM11 the customizations would be lost with the factory image so it is a double no go here.

 

[edcooper714]

Got 5.0 last night OTA. WAshington State.

 

[scythefwd]

I'm running the ota, but did it with an adb sideload. Runs well, slow to get fully booted. Used cf auto root and running rooted now.

 

[nickdalzell]

What else is missing? I won't trash it over no transparency even if I breaks up the Material look. Bugged the crap out of me when Kitkat just ended up being jelly bean. No ART, no launcher, no Immersive mode, nada.

Please tell me they didn't omit the cool things in lollipop as well due to nonexistent 'performance' issues or being 'not ready for prime time' as before. I mean the 2012 Nexus 7 as out of date as it is has it! Nexus 10, the most powerful tablet in the Nexus line and It runs a UI that is stuck in the days of Android 4.0 holo dark.

 

[tanware]

Not too sure about the Transparent bars nor ART. That is another thing, CM11 has ART.

 

[bjacks12]

From what I've seen, you guys are still stuck with the black status/nav bars.
But you WILL get ART. That's 100% certain. Dalvik is dead. There will not be any devices running Dalvik if they are on Lollipop.

It's sad that Google neglected this device though, I considered it several times but never bought it. Maybe I'll pick up the 9 in a few months.

 

[nickdalzell]

It is also possible that Google will run some kernel that disables ART or the performance benefits of it, much like the hacked ROM i used to make the dev preview run on my 2012 Nexus 7.

 

[Rxpert83]

It is also possible that Google will run some kernel that disables ART or the performance benefits of it, much like the hacked ROM i used to make the dev preview run on my 2012 Nexus 7.

There is no dalvik in lollipop, so art cannot be disabled.

 

[bjacks12]

It is also possible that Google will run some kernel that disables ART or the performance benefits of it, much like the hacked ROM i used to make the dev preview run on my 2012 Nexus 7.

I don't think you know what ART is.

 

[nickdalzell]

i know what it is, but when i tried the Dev preview with my 2012 N7 it used a custom kernel that was still using KitKat bits (sorry can't find a better explanation) so while the OS was supposed to use ART, the kernel was not utilizing it. the device lagged a lot too.

 

[bjacks12]

The Nexus 10 will have ART and ONLY ART. I can say that with 100% certainty. Google has not written Android Lollipop to include Dalvik. Dalvik is dead. abandoned. obsolete. gone. retired.

If they did as you said, that means they are engaging in extra effort specifically to further fragment the OS and make the N10 experience suck.

 

[mikedt]

i know what it is, but when i tried the Dev preview with my 2012 N7 it used a custom kernel that was still using KitKat bits (sorry can't find a better explanation) so while the OS was supposed to use ART, the kernel was not utilizing it. the device lagged a lot too.

Well developer previews are not exactly final product, so often they will be incomplete and suboptimal. Dalvik is dead, long live Dalvik!