Help New Battery??

[bornintheuk]

This could be simply a case of my battery needs replacing. I noticed some odd behaviour the last few days such as I thought i had charge left then suddenly the battery is dead. So since its my day off I decided to intentially run the battery down to see for myself. So I've just been general browsing, a few texts, a little social media just letting it steadily decline. Then I watched it go from 26%, to 22%, to 10% to dead. In under a minute. Its an official samsung battery and other than that the phone is amazing with normally the best battery life of any phone i've had. IF its time for a new battery i'm happy to grab one on line now.

 

[philayl]

Hi, sounds very much like the battery has had it, these batteries don't slowly decay like others, they will just die on you, at least unlike the newer phones we can replace the battery, one of the reasons I wouldn't buy a phone without this feature. Phil

 

[AZgl1500]

Lithium-Ion batteries maintain pretty much full discharge rates right up until they have reached the "Maximum Number" of Charge/Discharge cycles....

and then, they just poop out...

One more thing to be aware of, Lithium-Ion batteries like to be kept in the upper 2/3rds of their charge status.... so, Caveat Emptor if you insist on always running them down flat between charges. That is a guaranteed way to kill them prematurely.

The manufacturers recommend that we use 40% as the bottom of the discharge cycle, and top it off from there. I have "tried to" observe that recommendation, and I have yet to ever replace a Lithium-Ion battery in any of my smartphones. If, you observe this method, it greatly extends that "Maximum Number" of recharge cycles.

I have still working:

1 each - Samsung Galaxy S purchased eons ago when it first came out, still working just fine, gets put back into service spasmodically on emergencies.

2 each; Samsung Galaxy S5 phones, both working great

1 each; S Note 4 and working great

1 each HTC One M9 about a year old, no issues at all with it.
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Verizon: Note 4, two ea. Galaxy S5, HTC One M9, VZW MiFi

MyPhoneExplorer lets you access a broken phone while locked
Nova Prime, Textra, Aqua Mail, Qi wireless equipped
MacroDroid can help extend battery life
MacroDroid senses Screen off, turns Wifi OFF
MacroDroid senses Screen UnLock, turns WiFi ON
PureVPN when using a public WiFi

 

[bornintheuk]

Hi, sounds very much like the battery has had it, these batteries don't slowly decay like others, they will just die on you, at least unlike the newer phones we can replace the battery, one of the reasons I wouldn't buy a phone without this feature. Phil

You got that right. I'll never ever change to a phone without the ability to simply replace the battery. I'll order a new one now be back to a full strength phone. Appreciate the confirmation.

 

[bornintheuk]

Lithium-Ion batteries maintain pretty much full discharge rates right up until they have reached the "Maximum Number" of Charge/Discharge cycles....

and then, they just poop out...

One more thing to be aware of, Lithium-Ion batteries like to be kept in the upper 2/3rds of their charge status.... so, Caveat Emptor if you insist on always running them down flat between charges. That is a guaranteed way to kill them prematurely.

The manufacturers recommend that we use 40% as the bottom of the discharge cycle, and top it off from there. I have "tried to" observe that recommendation, and I have yet to ever replace a Lithium-Ion battery in any of my smartphones. If, you observe this method, it greatly extends that "Maximum Number" of recharge cycles.

I have still working:

1 each - Samsung Galaxy S purchased eons ago when it first came out, still working just fine, gets put back into service spasmodically on emergencies.

2 each; Samsung Galaxy S5 phones, both working great

1 each; S Note 4 and working great

1 each HTC One M9 about a year old, no issues at all with it.
____________________________________
Verizon: Note 4, two ea. Galaxy S5, HTC One M9, VZW MiFi

MyPhoneExplorer lets you access a broken phone while locked
Nova Prime, Textra, Aqua Mail, Qi wireless equipped
MacroDroid can help extend battery life
MacroDroid senses Screen off, turns Wifi OFF
MacroDroid senses Screen UnLock, turns WiFi ON
PureVPN when using a public WiFi

I never make a habit of running down, today was just to see what was going on with the sudden switch offs. I am one of those that always tops my phone up where I can. I never had this with my s3 its a new experience on the note 4 but one thats easily fixed. Interesting to note the 40% figure... i'll bear that in mind. I was gauging it at 30% the point i'd look to recharge so when the new battery comes tomorrow i'll use 40% in future.

 

[philayl]

As an aside I have a spare battery and a charger so I always have a fully charged battery to hand, I carry the spare one in a little zip lock bag in my pocket, takes up no room and I'm never caught out. Phil

 

[AZgl1500]

I have a little Macro app that I use to remind me of things, one of the things I have it do is monitor the battery condition and when it reaches "40%" it talks to me, yup, talks to me and says "Battery Low"


* MacroDroid - Device Automation - Android Apps on Google Play


I have about 14 macros set up for different situations, I turn them on/off as the occasion arises.

Two macros though, are always in effect.

Screen Locked: WiFi OFF
Screen Unlock: WiFi ON​

Data is Always left OFF unless I am away from home and need the innerweb.

My reasoning?

No Internet, no senseless battery power wasted....
​

My Note 4 can be left idling all day long and maybe consume about 4% to 5% battery life.

 

[bornintheuk]

As an aside I have a spare battery and a charger so I always have a fully charged battery to hand, I carry the spare one in a little zip lock bag in my pocket, takes up no room and I'm never caught out. Phil

New battery delivered. Won't get it took tonight but then give it a good charge. But that's a good idea Phil this battery I'll keep as a spare. After all its fine til it gets to 30% or around there.

 

[AZgl1500]

The 'spare' battery, keep it charged to about 30-40 percent....
more than that is useless for long life storage.

 

[philayl]

Hi AZ, I don't use it like that, I just swap batteries when they need charging, my phone never goes on charge, just the batteries, I use them alternately. Phil

 

[AZgl1500]

that would be a super PITA for me, my Note 4 and S5s are all housed in a Speco CandyShell military grade case that is a bitch to remove. count me out.

I just leave it laying on the Qi pad when I don't have it in my hands

 

[philayl]

Ah I see, I don't need a case that tough, I treat my Note 4 gentler than the wife! Phil

 

[bat0nas]

Screen Locked: WiFi OFF
Screen Unlock: WiFi ON​

Data is Always left OFF unless I am away from home and need the innerweb.

My reasoning?

No Internet, no senseless battery power wasted....
​

Logic ;-)
What's the purpose of having a smartphone if you're not always online :-D

 

[touringhaggis]

Logic ;-)
What's the purpose of having a smartphone if you're not always online :-D

I guess for some people the ability to be online is enough, hence the smartphone. To achieve any sort of productivity, you need to disconnect for some part of the day. Also, if it is not productivity you seek, perhaps tranquility would be another reason for the logic.

Regards,
Eric.

 

[AZgl1500]

bat0nas said: ↑

Logic ;-)
What's the purpose of having a smartphone if you're not always online :-D

I guess for some people the ability to be online is enough, hence the smartphone. To achieve any sort of productivity, you need to disconnect for some part of the day. Also, if it is not productivity you seek, perhaps tranquility would be another reason for the logic.

Regards,
Eric.


Eric,
you are the only one to really grasp what it is that I do.
When my phone is off the innerweb, it is on purpose, and I do NOT want to be bothered by the crap that goes on there. When I get around to picking it up, and unlocking the screen is plenty soon enough for all the garbage to be rolling in and intruding on my peace and quiet.

I have a macro that I use that when activated, will totally turn OFF notifications period.
I had to do that in order to get some peace and uninterrupted sleep.
It just really pisses me off, that when a bank transaction is pushed thru at 02:30 AM and the alert is sent to my phone, that the damn thing thinks that "I just must know about this notice"...

well, the hell I do, it can wait on me until I awake from a peaceful sleep and unlock my phone, and then it goes thru a most hellish time of trying to send me 10 or 30 notifications all at once. piss on that crap. I don't need it when I am sleeping....

of course, I could always power the phone OFF, but then, if an Emergency Phone call comes thru at night, I would miss that.... doing it my way, allows me to sleep, still have a telephone that works, and when I am awake and actually want to visit the "InnerWeb", I can do so by unlocking the screen.

but until then, I don't want to be bothered, thank you very much.