Screw the OTA, why don't you ROOT?

[ScarcelyAware]

Alright, so I've been wondering for forever and a half, why's everyone on 1.5 so ADAMANT that OTA is the way to go?

I got a refurb yesterday after having prematurely leaked (before root was found) and am now running a custom ROM. Having been on V3 leak, which is being said is almost identical to the OTA, root blew me away.

So what're your reasons?

-Fear of bricking? (There's an Eris Master App that'll pretty much root your phone for you, no command lines necessary. Easy)

-Fear of missing out on future updates? (Root is reversible)

-Love the feeling of "official" software? (I guess I can't argue this one, but hey, enjoy your bugs)


So, fill me in.

 

[Frisco]

You were doing ok there until the "..enjoy your bugs."

No bugs on my stock 1.5, although I've seen some postings here with buggy stock 1.5s.

I've read of many on all leak versions, as well as people with root.

You've got an agenda, that's ok, but included in it is a (false) notion that what you're doing is the best thing to do and that those who are not doing it are lesser than you.

That wrecks the credibility of your questions, in my opinion.

 

[cableguynoe]

I would put these people in the same category as those that say they don't need swype...
If you haven't tried it... you dont know what you're missing

 

[Bswartz95]

I would put these people in the same category as those that say they don't need swype...
If you haven't tried it... you dont know what you're missing

I tried it for a little more than a week and didn't like it.

Compact qwerty for me.

 

[ScarcelyAware]

You were doing ok there until the "..enjoy your bugs."

No bugs on my stock 1.5, although I've seen some postings here with buggy stock 1.5s.

I've read of many on all leak versions, as well as people with root.

You've got an agenda, that's ok, but included in it is a (false) notion that what you're doing is the best thing to do and that those who are not doing it are lesser than you.

That wrecks the credibility of your questions, in my opinion.

I was referring to the bugs in 2.1 v3, but I'm sure having a useless YouTube app isn't considered a bug (in 1.5). In my opinion, the added usability of root surpasses the bugs included.

Also, just to add, I now know that people who've OTA'd can still root. Guess it'll always be an option?

 

[SUPERSPORT]

Because not everyone is a geeky computer type that even knows what the heck root even is.

 

[BlueDC2]

I would put these people in the same category as those that say they don't need swype...
If you haven't tried it... you dont know what you're missing

I didn't know what to do with my phone when my swype trial period ended this morning, I google'd it and it took me back here, I apparently was not the only one. The stock keyboard looks terrible and is terrible, I need swype! I've been using it since it was released, I can't go back now

 

[bjanow]

Alright, so I've been wondering for forever and a half, why's everyone on 1.5 so ADAMANT that OTA is the way to go?

Ok then, tell us exactly why someone who uses the phone for calls, internet, email, some apps, weather, and GPS would want or need root? What would they gain and at what cost? Now remember, you're talking to an average user not a geek.

 

[ACD168]

I recently went from 1.5 to Manually installing 2.1 OTA.. is there a way to go back to 1.5 and then root, or should I just root, and how would I go about rooting??

 

[pammysue]

Ok then, tell us exactly why someone who uses the phone for calls, internet, email, some apps, weather, and GPS would want or need root? What would they gain and at what cost? Now remember, you're talking to an average user not a geek.

Yeah, what he said. All this talk of rooting has made me curious...I know that, I, a non techy droid owner would love to know what all this is about.......and I haven't found a good explanation.

 

[ScarcelyAware]

Ok then, tell us exactly why someone who uses the phone for calls, internet, email, some apps, weather, and GPS would want or need root? What would they gain and at what cost? Now remember, you're talking to an average user not a geek.

I was obviously referring to the people here on the boards who tend to have some interest in the techy-side of their phones (if not, why would they post here? ) The average user doesn't even know what software version they're running or hell, if their phone's even on "Android". These people are missing out on more than just root.

 

[cableguynoe]

Ok then, tell us exactly why someone who uses the phone for calls, internet, email, some apps, weather, and GPS would want or need root? What would they gain and at what cost? Now remember, you're talking to an average user not a geek.

Just wifi tethering for me is more than enough reason to root.

Other things like live wallpapers, even overclocking are not necessary.

Edit: For those that don't know...
I can turn on wifi tethering and anyone around me with a laptop, or even an iTouch/iPad can get only using my internet connection

 

[kkpsichologist]

There's an Eris Master App that'll pretty much root your phone for you, no command lines necessary..

What is this Eris Master App you speak of, I don't see it in the market or anywhere.
Thanks!

 

[ScarcelyAware]

What is this Eris Master App you speak of, I don't see it in the market or anywhere.
Thanks!

It's a program for the computer, not the Eris. I thought the same thing initially.

http://androidforums.com/all-things-root-eris/72676-application-eris-master-application-r00t.html

 

[davros]

How did you go about getting the refurb? I'm running v3 and have ben on the leaks since the original leak. With the root being found the next week did not make me happy. I want root always have.

Dialer lag? Silent phone calls?

Sent from my Eris using Tapatalk

 

[IFLATLINEI]

I didnt root simply because I was still familiarizing myself with my new phone. Coming from the Verizon Voyager to the HTC Eris was a huge jump in functionality. Rooting just wasnt a priority for me. I did however save a list of threads relating to the subject for when the time came but last night I noticed the messaage to recieve update and I went with it. I was impressed that all my apps remained, contacts stayed, heck all Ive had to do was redo my home screens again. So far so good.

I gotta say im loving this phone and I loved it so much we got one for my GF too. I was really hesitant to purchase this phone in the beginning because of the Data fee but you know what? TOTALLY WORTH THE PRICE!!!!! I cant say it enough. This phone makes every phone I have had before it look like a worhtless pieces of junk.

 

[bjanow]

I was obviously referring to the people here on the boards who tend to have some interest in the techy-side of their phones (if not, why would they post here? ) The average user doesn't even know what software version they're running or hell, if their phone's even on "Android". These people are missing out on more than just root.

Great way to not answer a question. Thanks, that really helped a lot.

Besides, you are mistaken. (to put it kindly)

 

[DDustiNN]

Just wifi tethering for me is more than enough reason to root.

Other things like live wallpapers, even overclocking are not necessary.

Edit: For those that don't know...
I can turn on wifi tethering and anyone around me with a laptop, or even an iTouch/iPad can get only using my internet connection

So... Does tethering use your 3G connection and basically just make your phone a hotspot? Sounds cool actually...

 

[ScarcelyAware]

How did you go about getting the refurb? I'm running v3 and have ben on the leaks since the original leak. With the root being found the next week did not make me happy. I want root always have.

Dialer lag? Silent phone calls?

Sent from my Eris using Tapatalk

So far, no silent phone calls. The dialer is slightly snappier than v3, but I'm sure it depends on the ROM (I'm running senseable).

My phone was doing this thing where it would randomly scroll to the far left home screen. It was pissing me off and I was considering reflashing the v3 leak, but decided this was my chance to get refurb.

 

[cableguynoe]

So... Does tethering use your 3G connection and basically just make your phone a hotspot? Sounds cool actually...

Yup. And i was very inpressed at the range of my hotspot.
Works very well.
Haven't canceled my home internet service yet... but I'm considering it

 

[kkpsichologist]

Thanks, ScarcelyAware I'm on V.3 and if someone ever figures out how to root it or when we are able to get the OTA I might give it a shot.

 

[ACD168]

can anyone explain how i would root ota 2.1?? tia

 

[alprazolam]

I would root the minute I had the chance, but it's not what everyone is looking for. My girlfriend could care less and, like stated above, doesn't even know what Android is. She's not stupid...it's just not her priority. She likes all the cool things I show her but there are just a few features that she uses regularly.

While you and I want bleeding edge technology and screwing around with our phones, others just want the official features to work. Every time we install a leaked version, we are taking a risk. Some would rather not play that game.

 

[ScarcelyAware]

can anyone explain how i would root ota 2.1?? tia

http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-eris/78619-went-1-5-ota-you-can-still-root-not-leakers.html

 

[ACD168]

so If I root.. how would I go back to non root 2.1 ota?