Anyone using Wine 5

[Roy Oxlade]

Hi all

Been looking at Wine as it states it can run a Windows program on an Android device. Now I think there is a catch in that for it to run many Windows programs it requires your device to have an Intel CPU, not a RISC based Arm CPU. Has anyone any experience of using Wine?

thanks Roy

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

I didn't even know there was an Android version of wine... I know it only as a Linux tool to run Windows applications.
And obviously on a PC you usually don't have those x86/x64 vs ARM problems.
What kind of Windows programs are you trying to run on your device?

 

[Roy Oxlade]

Hi

Quote from https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/running-windows-apps-on-android-devices-wine-3/

"While Wine has been available since a long time, but the 3.0 release brought an important update — support for Android."

The current version is 5.

I have a 32 bit navigation program called Memory Map, and thats all I want to run on this Android device, which is a Ruggex Rhino 2 phone but not using a Sim card and it is on Android 5.1 Lolipop.

 

[mikedt]

Hi

Quote from https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/running-windows-apps-on-android-devices-wine-3/

"While Wine has been available since a long time, but the 3.0 release brought an important update — support for Android."

The current version is 5.

I have a 32 bit navigation program called Memory Map, and thats all I want to run on this Android device, which is a Ruggex Rhino 2 phone but not using a Sim card and it is on Android 5.1 Lolipop.

FYI
https://www.hongkiat.com/blog/running-windows-apps-on-android-devices-wine-3/
As most of us own a device powered by an ARM CPU, we can only run WinRT apps using Wine on Android. The list of supported WinRT apps is small,

Basically Wine running on an ARM based Android device, e.g. a Ruggex Rhino 2 phone, can only run some software that was coded for Windows RT. And RT was Microsoft's failed attempt at getting their OS onto ARM based tablets and laptops.

If you got an x86 based Android device, things are more supported for Wine and PC Windows software.

 

[Milo Williamson]

Da..... Honestly takes my mind a long time to call Oreo an OS, and now Wine?

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

I have a 32 bit navigation program called Memory Map

Are you by any chance talking about the GPS navigation software by these guys: memory-map.com
Because they seem to offer an android version of their program.

 

[Roy Oxlade]

Hi

Because they seem to offer an android version of their program.

Yes they do but it has several drawbacks that I can only assume is because they are new to the Android OS, a lot of people do not like the Android version, not as user freindly as some other Android apps but the map data is not cheap and is linked to a product, so change to something new and you need to buy new mapping data. For me the data storage is an issue and getting the program to open the data.

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

Yes they do but it has several drawbacks that I can only assume is because they are new to the Android OS, a lot of people do not like the Android version, not as user freindly as some other Android apps but the map data is not cheap and is linked to a product, so change to something new and you need to buy new mapping data. For me the data storage is an issue and getting the program to open the data.

Well, that sucks...
I think you can only wait for a new Android version of their app, which has your issues fixed. Or switch to a different navigation app.

 

[MoodyBlues]

Add me to the list of those who only know wine as a tool for Linux to run window$ programs. I had no idea there was now an Android version. Not that I'll use it. The only thing I ever used wine for was playing Roller Coaster Tycoon. Ironically, RCT actually ran better using wine on Linux than on window$--ON THE SAME COMPUTER.

I tried that once, back when I was still paying the micro$oft tax (paying for window$, which came pre-installed on every new computer, then immediately wiping it off my hard drive as soon as I got it home). I fired up that god-awful, miserable, stupid, dumbed-down, ugly, clunky OS so I could see how RCT would run natively, then compare it to running it after wiping the drive and installing Linux. On window$, it was herky-jerky, with graphics that stalled and stuttered; on Linux, it ran smooth and fast and great!

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

that god-awful, miserable, stupid, dumbed-down, ugly, clunky OS

Accurate assessment. :-D

RCT actually ran better using wine on Linux

I had a somewhat similar experience when switching to Linux. But concerning my Corsair mouse.
The official software (Corsair Utility Engine) is really slow and a little buggy (although already better than most of the trash by Razer/Roccat/...).
But the open-source alternative (ckb-next) is blazing fast and I've NEVER had a single glitch!!

 

[MoodyBlues]

But concerning my Corsair mouse.

I'm not familiar with Corsair at all. I've used Logitech trackballs since their inception, first hardwired and then wireless, and they have always worked out of the box with Linux; I've never had a need/desire to look for other brands.

My current trackballs are the M570, which is very ergonomically designed, and super comfortable to use. I use them with my laptops, too, not just desktops. On my laptops, I set the touchpad to disable when it detects a mouse/trackball (in other words, immediately upon booting), so I'm never bothered by accidentally pressing the touchpad and typing weird stuff!

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

On my laptops, I set the touchpad to disable when it detects a mouse/trackball (in other words, immediately upon booting), so I'm never bothered by accidentally pressing the touchpad

Nice! That's smart. How did you achieve that? Is there an option for this, I dont know about?! Or did you write a script or something?

My current trackballs are the M570, which is very ergonomically designed, and super comfortable to use.

Thanks for the hint!
But I've never been a trackball-person. Although, to be fair, I've never put in the effort to get used to them.
Also, I prefer most of my peripherals wired. (Only exception is my headset)

 

[MoodyBlues]

Nice! That's smart. How did you achieve that? Is there an option for this, I dont know about?! Or did you write a script or something?

On older versions of Kubuntu (my default Linux distro), there was a setting for that. I recently bought a new laptop (which came with Ubuntu 20.04 on it--I replaced that with Kubuntu 20.04), and immediately noticed its absence! A little digging led me to the solution: install xserver-xorg-input-synaptics. Once that's installed, it adds a tab to the default mouse/trackball settings:

Configure it and you're done!

Thanks for the hint!
But I've never been a trackball-person. Although, to be fair, I've never put in the effort to get used to them.
Also, I prefer most of my peripherals wired. (Only exception is my headset)

You're welcome. I've been a trackball person for as long as I can remember. I just never felt comfortable using a mouse. In fact, I found it downright annoying/irritating! It seemed like I was constantly picking it up, moving it, banging it on the desk...

With the Logitech trackballs I've used, they're so comfortable...they just fit my hand really nicely. And there's no need to move them! They're just sitting there, waiting for my thumb to scroll their pretty blue balls.

As for wired vs wireless, when Logitech first announced that they were discontinuing the wired version of whichever model I was using back then, I raised a stink about it on their forum. I was very unhappy about it; I liked the...I don't know, security? reliability? of a wired connection, and doubted how well the wireless versions would work. Let's just say I stopped bitching A LONG TIME AGO! They work fine. I've never had a single issue. The connector (that plugs in to a USB port) is very small and unobtrusive; it's never in the way or anything. Now, I can't even imagine going back to wired.

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

Thank you for the explanation! Even with screenshot - what a luxury!

I was constantly picking it up, moving it, banging it on the desk...

I don't mind/don't even notice most of the time I'm picking it up/moving it around. Probably a matter of getting used to...

they're so comfortable...they just fit my hand really nicely. And there's no need to move them! They're just sitting there, waiting for my thumb to scroll their pretty blue balls.

I'm glad to see, they're making you this happy^^
...Just the part about the "blue balls" shouldn't be read out of context... ;D

When it comes to wired VS wireless, you're already on the right track. For me, it's about (marginally) better security, connection reliability and the comfort of not having to dig through my cables each time I have to charge the batteries.
All in all, it just feels more "set it & forget it" to me

 

[MoodyBlues]

Believe me, @9cc3985ae3094d8b, as I WROTE it, I knew 'blue balls' would be taken out of context!

I'm so used to wireless trackballs now, it's hard to remember ever being opposed to them--and I mean really, really, loudly and vocally opposed to them. Any concerns I had are long gone. Their batteries last a long time, too. Shoot, I can't even remember the last time I changed one of their batteries. But you know it always come down to personal preference. If you're happy with using a mouse, great! Isn't choice wonderful?!

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

Isn't choice wonderful?!

You said it, brother! sister!

 

[MoodyBlues]

You said it, brother!

Thanks!

One minor correction, though: sister.

 

[MrJavi]

Thanks!

One minor correction, though: sister.

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

One minor correction, though: sister.

LOL! Nice fail ^^'

 

[MoodyBlues]

LOL! Nice fail ^^'

Ha ha! Trust me, it's not the first time.

By the way, I've been told I have bigger balls than most men.

 

[9cc3985ae3094d8b]

I've been told I have bigger balls than most men.

Well... considering your affection for blue balls... XD