Root Round 2: Rooted Droid vs. Rooted Droid Incredible?

[YankeeDudeL]

Well, it's being reported, however not confirmed that the Droid Incredible has finally been rooted. He's also reporting that he's OCed to 1.5GHz! What's more he's working on 2GHz! Good Lord, could you imagine?

I've been saying that as of right now, based on personal preference, that a rooted Droid is the best option. But this will def start to sway opinions, including mine.

This was reported in the Incredible subforum by M4gicM@.

HTC Incredible Overclocked to 1.5 ghz! Next step 2.0 ghz... | Nine By Six

Edit:

The OP should probably edit the original thread to point out that the Incredible is NOT rooted and it was a FAKE

And there ya go!

 

[Rodeojones]

2Ghz? Wow. I've been in total agreement with you that a rooted Droid is the best option. If this report is true I, too, might be reconsidering my stance on this.

 

[nstallion]

Hm.. I'm not sure whether I believe that. With the Nexus One the snapdragon was notoriously difficult to overclock. The only reason the Droid's OMAP is so easy is because it is designed to run at a wide range of frequencies, up to and including 1ghz from the factory. Essentially the Droid is underclocked.

 

[YankeeDudeL]

I'm def skeptical of anything I read, especially on the internet. I've seen many in here talk about how difficult it would be to OC. But I can be cautiously optimistic.

 

[nstallion]

Well assuming it's true, a rooted Incredible would be pretty sweet. I still don't like the screen on the incredible and I'm one of the few who likes a physical keyboard though.

I also don't like how prone they are to damage when dropped, but I suppose I could use a case (which I HATE).

All in all it's still a tough call for me. I think for a lot of people they would choose an Incredible though, especially considering how nice that camera is.

 

[YankeeDudeL]

Now that I've grown accustomed to Swype, I don't use the physical keyboard as much, but I do like having it just in case. I def love that this is a tougher phone, I certainly need it. I'm a huge klutz.

The thing I like about these phones is that they're both solid options for diff people's needs. However, there's something that's not so appealing: The fanboyism for the DI is starting to get out of hand.

 

[bp328i]

Here is a link at the bottom of the blog that shows a picture. I still don't think I will leave the Droid and I never use the physical keyboard. The Incredible just feels cheap to me when I hold it.

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aVHf3U0

 

[snake_fist_gung_fu]

Yea its rooted but its the same snapdragon processor thats in the Nexus One. I dont see how you can overclock the incredible but not overclock the Nexus One. Its the same processor. I mean it would be really cool if true and if it is. I just have to wonder how long your battery will last at 2GHz. Thats stupid fast.

 

[YankeeDudeL]

I like stupid. lol

 

[ech0]

Correct me if I'm wrong (because I very well may be), but isn't the actual CPU that's packaged in the Snapdragon package pretty much the same CPU that's in the Droid/iPhone 3GS, just clocked higher?

I'm sure there are modifications that have been made to it in order to comfortably run at a higher speed, but from what I've read and understand is that it really isn't that much different. Most of what is called "Snapdragon" has to do with the actual included chipset features more-so than the actual CPU.

If that's the case, wouldn't it be safe to assume that, given the proper conditions, the Droid could be clocked that high?

 

[bp328i]

Yea its rooted but its the same snapdragon processor thats in the Nexus One. I dont see how you can overclock the incredible but not overclock the Nexus One. Its the same processor. I mean it would be really cool if true and if it is. I just have to wonder how long your battery will last at 2GHz. Thats stupid fast.

In some of the post he says "2.0 should (in theory according to specs/code) be possible as well."

He compare it to the Droid running at 1.5GHZ and 1.8GHZ, and we all know how that went. I don't see the Incredible running 1.5GHZ let-a-lone 2.0GHZ and being stable, but I would love to see it.

 

[Redflea]

One potential issue - given the issues reported w/battery life on the incredible, overclocking to 2 GHz seems like it could turn it into a paperweight pretty quickly...

 

[jyarbrough20]

according to Droid Life: A Motorola Droid Blog this claim is a fake....go check out the article....some kid claimed it, but lied! If the nexus and incredible have the exact same processor, i to agree that overclocking would be just the same on the incredible.

 

[bose301s]

Correct me if I'm wrong (because I very well may be), but isn't the actual CPU that's packaged in the Snapdragon package pretty much the same CPU that's in the Droid/iPhone 3GS, just clocked higher?

I'm sure there are modifications that have been made to it in order to comfortably run at a higher speed, but from what I've read and understand is that it really isn't that much different. Most of what is called "Snapdragon" has to do with the actual included chipset features more-so than the actual CPU.

If that's the case, wouldn't it be safe to assume that, given the proper conditions, the Droid could be clocked that high?

The CPUs are extremely similar in that they are both ARM Cortex A8 family chips and ARM controls their architecture much more strictly than Intel does the x86 architecture that PC processors use, thus all Cortex A8 processors are pretty comparable no matter who makes them unlike the differences in the x86 chips made by AMD and Intel. Whats different is what is also in the package, the Snapdragon contains the cellular modem and GPS on die whereas with the OMAP 3430 you needs separate chips for that but the OMAP 3430 does have the GPU integrated and it is more powerful than that generally used with the Snapdragon chips.

 

[shadowdude777]

See, they could have made it somewhat believable if they hadn't been complete idiots and claimed that they had clocked it to 1.5GHz. We know Snapdragon doesn't clock that high. No mobile processor does that right now, and possibly never will. It's like the wall around 4GHz that was hit with desktop processors on air cooling.

 

[dmodert66]

Holy crap! That is one big cluster F!!!! I just read the thread in the Incredible forum here, over at XDA, and Alldroid in the mix...It wasn't even Jake that posted the pic...It was a fake Jake...

Man...And I thought the Droid drama was crazy (Blackdroid, Alldroid)...

 

[riffdex]

What's the stock speed for the Incredible?

 

[Eristotle]

Let me google that for you

 

[Fadelight]

It's like the wall around 4GHz that was hit with desktop processors on air cooling.

Oh, how I would love to hear more about this hypothetical wall. I shall be waiting on pins and needles from behind the keyboard connected to my PC which is running a PhenomII x3 2.8ghz CPU @ 4.15ghz using a xigmatek S1283 air cooler and 2 fans and has been running rock solid stable for 11 months now.

I'd also like to discuss with anyone here who chooses why I have one of a hand full of droids that was able to run 1.3LV cores without any stability issues at all, while reading post after post after post with people claiming their phone became unstable at 1.1 or 1.2ghz.

During either of these discussions, I would point out what anyone who knows anything about such electronic devices already knows... especially those who overclock. no two will behave the same way, and there is no telling what one person can do. Just because the vast majority cannot do it doesn't mean one single person wouldn't be able to by some fluke.

Sure, this story has already proven to be fake. Doesn't mean the snapdragon can't be OC'd to 1.5ghz by some random person with that one anomaly chip.

As for the OP... I'll wait for the Droid 2 to come out. I'm one of those random die-hard physical keyboard addicts. No touch-only for me.

 

[snake_fist_gung_fu]

Oh, how I would love to hear more about this hypothetical wall. I shall be waiting on pins and needles from behind the keyboard connected to my PC which is running a PhenomII x3 2.8ghz CPU @ 4.15ghz using a xigmatek S1283 air cooler and 2 fans and has been running rock solid stable for 11 months now.

I'd also like to discuss with anyone here who chooses why I have one of a hand full of droids that was able to run 1.3LV cores without any stability issues at all, while reading post after post after post with people claiming their phone became unstable at 1.1 or 1.2ghz.

During either of these discussions, I would point out what anyone who knows anything about such electronic devices already knows... especially those who overclock. no two will behave the same way, and there is no telling what one person can do. Just because the vast majority cannot do it doesn't mean one single person wouldn't be able to by some fluke.

Sure, this story has already proven to be fake. Doesn't mean the snapdragon can't be OC'd to 1.5ghz by some random person with that one anomaly chip.

As for the OP... I'll wait for the Droid 2 to come out. I'm one of those random die-hard physical keyboard addicts. No touch-only for me.

Im glade Im not the only one that dose not trust touch only. Still if 2 or 3 GHz is possible I just dont see how battery life will not be short. You know that has to draw a lot of power. A comp has the advantage of having a AC current that our phones dont have.

 

[dmodert66]

Or just do what PC's have done..Go multicore...Good News abounds today

Qualcomm ships first dual-core Snapdragon chipsets clocking 1.2GHz -- Engadget

 

[nstallion]

Im glade Im not the only one that dose not trust touch only. Still if 2 or 3 GHz is possible I just dont see how battery life will not be short. You know that has to draw a lot of power. A comp has the advantage of having a AC current that our phones dont have.

I also like the physical keyboard. For me one of the main reasons is that when you use the on screen it takes up the whole god damned screen. I don't know why this doesn't bother more people.

 

[djkeller3]

Let me google that for you

Oh my God that is so funny! How did you do that?

 

[nstallion]

Oh my God that is so funny! How did you do that?

Let me google that for you

 

[Fadelight]

Or just do what PC's have done..Go multicore...Good News abounds today

Qualcomm ships first dual-core Snapdragon chipsets clocking 1.2GHz -- Engadget

I heard they would be going that route soon. I am definitely excited to see where this will go. "Droid 2 - 1.2ghz dual core". MMMM.

It definitely differs from the PC world, though. Single core PCUs were well beyond 2.5ghz when they first released dual cores, and the dual cores were all clocked at 1.6 - 1.8ghz. It seems odd they just made a dual core which is 200mhz faster than its single core counterpart.