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    FCC officially kills net neutrality
    During today's open meeting, the FCC's proposal to repeal net neutrality protections put in place in 2015 was put to a vote and it passed, three votes to two. The three republican members of the committee voted to repeal, while two democratic members voted against it.
     
  1. overlordror

    overlordror Well-Known Member
    Phandroid Staff

    Bad day for the Internet.
     
  2. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ...eschew obfuscation...
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  3. luish2744

    luish2744 Lurker

    Well ain't this something.....
     
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  4. svim

    svim Extreme Android User

    Let's hope one of the lawsuits to come will save us. There are still plenty of judges out there who believe in the rule of law and not just political affiliations.
     
  5. Sky Monster

    Sky Monster Lurker

    Ironic that the agency that is supposed to protect the internet, is harming it instead. This is why these kinds of agency should not have ties with corporations big or small.
     
  6. mlrz24

    mlrz24 Well-Known Member

    Well said. I don't know one person who thinks eliminating net neutrality is good thing.
     
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  7. mlrz24

    mlrz24 Well-Known Member

    Well said Sky monster. I don't know one person who thinks that eliminating net neutrality is good thing. Comcast will have fun with this unfortunately
     
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  8. About that for into it man
     
  9. Dannydet

    Dannydet Extreme Android User

    Watch your rate hikes now....
     
  10. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven ...eschew obfuscation...
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    FTC will enforce competitiveness just like they did from the invention of the internet until 2015. The web did just fine for all those years. It always struck me as a regulation looking for a solution.

    So like I said before, meh.
     
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  11. svim

    svim Extreme Android User

    The FTC already has publicly stated it cannot just 'take over' the FCC's responsibilities. It does not have the proper resources, it does not have the proper staff, nor does it even have the facilities required to even do so. Pai is simply doing a Trumpism, he's making a false statement with no substance. He could just as well have said it'll be the responsibility of the Dept. of Education.
     
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  12. Daniel Fernandes

    Daniel Fernandes Android Enthusiast

    I don't understand net neutrality...
     
  13. psionandy

    psionandy Extreme Android User

    Ok.. in the words of Cory Doctorow


    "
    Here's how to understand Net Neutrality: you get in a cab and ask it to take you to a Safeway, and you notice that it's circling the block for no reason, delaying your arrival. "What gives?" you ask. The cabby explains that Whole Foods has paid for "premium carriage" by the cab firm, and so it gets "fast lane" service -- which means that everyone else gets the slow lane. The cab driver explains that running a taxi is expensive and hard work, and that choosing one grocer over another helps the cab company fund its maintenance, operations and upgrades.

    That's nice for the cab company, but you didn't get into the cab to be taken to the most profitable destination for the cab company -- you got in to be taken to the place you wanted to go.

    The cabbie says, "Hell, why are you being so particular? Safeway and Whole Foods aren't that different. Besides, Safeway makes decisions about what food you buy: they don't carry every possible grocery item, and they arrange their groceries in the way that suits them, not you. Why do you get pissed off when the cab company steers you toward the stores of its choosing, but you're happy to shop at a store that sends you to the items of its choosing?"

    The answer, of course, is that it's none of the taxi's business. Maybe Safeway is gouging its suppliers for endcaps, and maybe it isn't, but that's between you and Safeway. You might choose to tackle that yourself, or it might not matter to you. It's not the cab company's job to tell you where to go: it's their job to go where you tell them. "

    https://boingboing.net/2017/12/26/creeping-blackmail.html
     
  14. Daniel Fernandes

    Daniel Fernandes Android Enthusiast

    Hey thanks @psionandy!
    I now get an idea of this...

    But, there was no net neutrality even before right? What's different this time that will make the internet boring? Was internet boring before..?
     
  15. psionandy

    psionandy Extreme Android User

    Well... there was. It was generally a principle that ISP's held to. and then it was officially enacted.

    Which was great for development. The Silicon valley tech boom started because people could offer services, without having to get approval from ISP's to deliver.

    If it was removed, and i wanted to start a company that competed with anything that verizon provided*, they could deliberately slow down traffic to my streaming service, my customers would blame me, and i'd be out of business. So if my "hotmail" service competed with your ISPs mail service, or Twitter competed with AOL's Instant messenger, the services we take for granted would have been strangled at birth.

    NN really benefits people who own ISPs and networks, but at the expense of others who own services and customers.

    When the rules for NN were in place, Comcast* for example made a set of promises to their customers about how NN protected them. As soon as the rules went, they changed? Just a crazyrandomhappenstance?

    https://boingboing.net/2017/12/15/comcast-has-been-planning-to-d.html

    The big network providers have are going to take a lot more of your money, and squeeze and stifle any competing services or people who don't pay their protection racket bribes.










    * to pick a provider at random
     
    #18 psionandy, Jan 3, 2018
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2018
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  16. mlrz24

    mlrz24 Well-Known Member

    There was no net neutrality. What changed was Netflix, Amazon and other rivals to Comcast started showing up. Comcast try to squash them and the government stood up and protected them because competition is good for business
     
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  17. psionandy

    psionandy Extreme Android User

  18. Milo Willamson

    Milo Willamson Android Expert

    At least i am safe down here, where as no one can spy on me :D
     
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