Htc releasing firmware update for 30FPS cap... let's be more proactive!

rican408 · Jun 29, 2010

I also just checked. The hdmi does sense when connected. It says hdmi connected only when I go to the right input.

malibu23 · Jun 29, 2010

power geeks want it all. for the casual user, who are happy enjoy flawless video playback and play lite graphical games from gameloft are happy. the hardcore users are pretty much a minority. the selling point of the phone wasn't even its graphical capabilities. get a psp for games.

rican408 · Jun 29, 2010

When it lags so much u miss a turn on a racing game. That's bad. just because u don't play on the device doesn't mean u can speak for everyone or say get another device. Go get a MOTO razor if u just wanna phone. I want something that does EVERYTHING!

jmxp69 · Jun 29, 2010

The EVO can and does exceed 30fps, it is not a hardware limitation.
YouTube - Evo Godmode

For those of you who say you don't care, or the 30fps doesn't matter: It ABSOLUTELY does make a difference in scrolling, menus, browsing, and other day-to-day 2d applications.

HTC is lying if they maintain the fps limit is tied to HDMI, period.

PS I do not play games on mine, but the difference between the gimped mode (HtC kernel) and god mode (XDA kernel) is staggering in 2d.

YouNoAsian · Jun 29, 2010

zombdroid said:
I see this as a non issue. 30fps does not effect the video quality of this phone. Remember, this is a cell phone, not your home entertainment system.

I would recommend anyone that is having a problem with this to shop another phone and/or carrier. This is a phone, not a high definition video player, DVD or Blu-Ray player, but simply a top end telephone with multi-media capibiities.

I don't agree with this statement. If I wanted to just buy a phone I wouldn't have exhaustively searched for the most powerful android device on the market. I would have gotten a free Nokia.

rican408 · Jun 29, 2010

YouNoAsian said:
I don't agree with this statement. If I wanted to just buy a phone I wouldn't have exhaustively searched for the most powerful android device on the market. I would have gotten a free Nokia.

EXACTLY!
The worst part is it can be done so it should be done!

shandroid · Jun 29, 2010

Well it's been confirmed that Froyo is coming to the Evo soon, I'm confused, won't that fix the problem and /thread?

rican408 · Jun 29, 2010

shandroid said:
Well it's been confirmed that Froyo is coming to the Evo soon, I'm confused, won't that fix the problem and /thread?

Sadly I dont think so. On unless Rom the phone is blazing fast. Fps issue is still there. I think this is specific to this phone so htc has to be the one to fix it...

cesjr02 · Jun 29, 2010

This issue alone will push me to root. Sad the phone is so limited out of the box.

mitch27 · Jun 29, 2010

jmxp69 said:
The EVO can and does exceed 30fps, it is not a hardware limitation.
YouTube - Evo Godmode

For those of you who say you don't care, or the 30fps doesn't matter: It ABSOLUTELY does make a difference in scrolling, menus, browsing, and other day-to-day 2d applications.

HTC is lying if they maintain the fps limit is tied to HDMI, period.

PS I do not play games on mine, but the difference between the gimped mode (HtC kernel) and god mode (XDA kernel) is staggering in 2d.

I think this is one of those scenarios when 1 uninformed person makes a statement, and HTC follows along in an attempt to not look stupid. Thanks to XDA, we know what the phone can really do, and it is NOT limited by hardware like they stated. And looking at that video, running at a higher FPS indeed DOES improve the phone by leaps and bounds. Yeah it was OC'd, but that doesn't have much of an effect on those types of graphics tests.
Thumbs up to XDA, that community never ceases to impress me.

ARR22 · Jul 7, 2010

There you have it guys straight from the horse's mouth.

HTC Explains 30FPS HDMI Out Limitation on Sprint HTC EVO 4G

acp · Jul 7, 2010

Great the dumbest feature on this phone is the reason for the cap.

eric3316 · Jul 7, 2010

ARR22 said:
There you have it guys straight from the horse's mouth.

HTC Explains 30FPS HDMI Out Limitation on Sprint HTC EVO 4G

"and the one thing you want to complain about is the not-so-smooth scrolling of screens when you connect the HDMI port to another monitor or display?"

I think the moron who wrote that article should be fired for being stupid! In the end he writes that we are over reacting that when the device is hooked up to the hdmi cable that it limits the device to 30fps. What the moron doesn't seem to get is it works the same way without being hooked up through the cable.

I hate dumb people! Plus Mark looks like a girl!

ARR22 · Jul 7, 2010

eric3316 said:
"and the one thing you want to complain about is the not-so-smooth scrolling of screens when you connect the HDMI port to another monitor or display?"

I think the moron who wrote that article should be fired for being stupid! In the end he writes that we are over reacting that when the device is hooked up to the hdmi cable that it limits the device to 30fps. What the moron doesn't seem to get is it works the same way without being hooked up through the cable.

I hate dumb people! Plus Mark looks like a girl!

Yeah I forgot to mention that. What a dweeb.

ARR22 · Jul 7, 2010

Ok guys lets all go to this site and lets flood it with more starrs. The more starrs the more attention it will get. OUR VOICE HAS TO BE HEARD!

Issue 8942 - android - Sprint/HTC EVO 4G 30FPS cap on 2D (Canvas) and 3D (GL) - Project Hosting on Google Code

redninja · Jul 7, 2010

i think not having a gpu is what is causing the choppiness...

ARR22 · Jul 7, 2010

redninja said:
i think not having a gpu is what is causing the choppiness...

Sorry but the snapdragon processor has an onborad gpu. Just look at the Incredible or the Nexus 1. Same processor but no cap with silky smooth scrolling.

redninja · Jul 7, 2010

ARR22 said:
Sorry but the snapdragon processor has an onborad gpu. Just look at the Incredible or the Nexus 1. Same processor but no cap with silky smooth scrolling.

yeah your right, i thought i read awhile back that it didnt have it so games would suck. Sad though that games on my year old pre blows the evo out the water...ah well, hopefully it will get remedied one way or another.

EarlyMon · Jul 8, 2010

eric3316 said:
"and the one thing you want to complain about is the not-so-smooth scrolling of screens when you connect the HDMI port to another monitor or display?"

I think the moron who wrote that article should be fired for being stupid! In the end he writes that we are over reacting that when the device is hooked up to the hdmi cable that it limits the device to 30fps. What the moron doesn't seem to get is it works the same way without being hooked up through the cable.

I hate dumb people! Plus Mark looks like a girl!

Worse was his assertion that it's all ok - HDMI somehow throttles anything over 24 or 30 fps on most TVs to something lower.

1. There happens to be full set of standards and specs for HDMI.

2. I am quite certain that not one reputable TV has ever done that. Ever. It really speaks volumes about his ignorance.

720p/60Hz (read: 60 fps) over DVI - had that over 7 years ago - 720p/60Hz over HDMI - have that today on two sets, no problem.

What a dolt.

BTW - In case no one's noticed - he's giving the same excuse as news that was published weeks ago at XDA.

That's besides the point - once he got stoopid, I discounted every word.

Thefoodman52 · Jul 8, 2010

Well, I'm probably going to start flooding HTC's forum tomorrow with topics all stating this. I plan to get at least 30 tomorrow before I pass out once I get back from work.

dbpaddler · Jul 8, 2010

Here was my response from HTC about the problem.

Thank you for your response. You may look around to see if there are any programs you can download to remove this cap. However, HTC will not condone the use of any third party programs. Use any you may find at your own discretion.

How nice of them. Guess that's saying to go root your phone to overcome our limitation though we won't condone that sort of action.

EarlyMon · Jul 8, 2010

Still waiting to see the YouTubes of what happens when HDMI-equipped phones become common, capable of game-blazing speeds.

Recalling as do the fun ones with people slinging their wiimotes into their HDTVs, having phones hardwired to them should be pretty fun.

ARR22 · Jul 9, 2010

What do you guys think about this article. Read the very last sentence where it says update.

http://news.gabblet.com/post/2010/07/08/htc-evo-4g-30-fps-issue-update-634142039832370300.aspx

cabbie · Jul 10, 2010

They sent me a link to a survey to rate my experience with the help. So, I answered.

My inquiry to HTC was in relation to the 30FPS cap for the HTC EVO. I have given my business to HTC for my last two mobile devices, and my enthusiasm for the Hero was enough for my whole family to get one as well.

I find the response that the FPS cap was constrained by the HDMI port ludicrous and insulting. The Motorola DroidX possesses one as well and does not experience this. Additionally, it's a widely known fact that developers have been able to break the cap and I've witnessed videos of the EVO reaching up to 57 FPS. At this point I can only imagine that this is a cost/benefit issue for HTC to release an update as opposed to developing a new phone. I don't have high hopes for seeing the Froyo 2.2 update before Christmas, because like I said I owned a Hero and was burned by the nonsense of being teased for 6 months with hints of an update. The "Sense UI" is not more valuable than Froyo, and we should have an option to update to 2.2 vanilla or wait for the Sense-wrapped 2.2.

I expect to be contacted about this, because currently I am investigating other manufacturers for my next android phone on Sprint. It is incredibly disappointing to put my HTC Hero side by side with my Evo and see that the former has smoother performance than my new, expensive phone that I purchased at FULL RETAIL that has double the hardware specs. I also hope that the Sense UI is dropped completely following the 3.0 Gingerbread update as the skin will be redundant and only serves to promote fragmentation and lag on the operating system updates.

My contact information is enclosed.

lets see what happens.

zamardii12 · Jul 10, 2010

ARR22 said:
What do you guys think about this article. Read the very last sentence where it says update.

HTC EVO 4G 30 FPS Issue Update

Again... it has been PROVEN that it can be done. They just don't want to fix it. I guess i'll be rooting my phone afterall. I never use the HDMI out.

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