My switch from iPhone4 to Captivate

lilo · Jul 29, 2010

baddress said:
What good is all the fancy stuff you can do on a Captivate, when you can't actually do any of it or the battery will die in 6-8 hours? If you have to turn off all the fancy stuff just to make it through the day then it is no better than having an iPhone. And on the iPhone the GPS actually works. This makes me mad because I really want open source!

Clearly you exaggerate the issue.

First, with Android you at least have a choice. You can go iPhone way (i.e. disable the fancy features) or, if you are close to power sources most of the time, you can enable some of them. Or, you can do it selectively. For example, if you are expecting important e-mail, you can turn on push notifications but then turn it off for a normal use.

Secondly, Android advantages are not limited to battery-hungry features. You have a wide choice of hardware options. You can get your phone with 3.0, 3.5, 3.7, 4 or 4.3 inch screen. No such luck with iPhone. You have great set of applications from Google. Google Maps and Navigation alone may sway a lot of people. Swype. Porn (for those who needs it

).

Ethere · Jul 29, 2010

iPhone 3gs to Captivate user here.

So far, with a few hiccups, I'm glad I switched to Android. I did love my 3gs but with the BS Apple has thrown at us with the iPhone 4, I decided it was time to move out from behind Steve Jobs, and into a different environment.

Maybe Apple with the iPhone 5 will get me back, but we shall see. For at least 2 years, I'll be a happy Android user.

mwxiao · Jul 29, 2010

Remember the old Firefox conversation:

Geek: Firefox is awesome. It's customizable and you have millions of extensions to use!
Customer: But it gets slow and crashes...
Geek: Yeah, you may want to uninstall the extensions.

Now the Android:

Geek: Android rules! It is true multitasking, has live wallpaper and all kinds of beautiful widgets!
Customer: But the battery only lasts for half a day!
Geek: yeah, you may want to use a black static background, download a task killer to kill all the background processes, and close some of the widgets.

Ethere · Jul 29, 2010

mwxiao said:
Remember the old Firefox conversation:

Geek: Firefox is awesome. It's customizable and you have millions of extensions to use!
Customer: But it gets slow and crashes...
Geek: Yeah, you may want to uninstall the extensions.

Now the Android:

Geek: Android rules! It is true multitasking, has live wallpaper and all kinds of beautiful widgets!
Customer: But the battery only lasts for half a day!
Geek: yeah, you may want to use a black static background, download a task killer to kill all the background processes, and close some of the widgets.

From what I've read, most of this will be resolved with Android 2.2, and you won't have to change your background, kill your apps, or close widgets.

mwxiao · Jul 29, 2010

Ethere said:
From what I've read, most of this will be resolved with Android 2.2, and you won't have to change your background, kill your apps, or close widgets.

I really don't think a 0.1 upgrade will solve everything. In fact I don't think it can be solved in the near future. You can't have both ways.

Baldilocks · Jul 29, 2010

At this point in the game, iOS still works better. Compare the Captivate out of the box, with and original iPhone running iOS 1.0 and the iPhone would be much snappier. No hesitations or jerky motions.
iOS is very lightweight, well integrated and consistent. Those same things can't be said of Android - yet.

Android gives you many more options, much more control over content, but speed, battery life are compromised in the process.

Prim8 · Jul 29, 2010

I get easily 6 hours out of my phone and I use it constantly to web browse and text all day. I'm talking heavy usage.
I only have one weather app running and I tell it where I am so it doesn't have to use gps. I turn the screen brightness down some and turn it down on the browser as well which for some reason is a separate setting.
It's more use than I got out of my 3gs with less functionality. I got about 5 hours out of its battery with out widgets and less browser capability.
This is a highly capable smartphone, you can't use all the bells and whistles and expect the battery to last.

razholio · Jul 29, 2010

baddress said:
What good is all the fancy stuff you can do on a Captivate, when you can't actually do any of it or the battery will die in 6-8 hours? If you have to turn off all the fancy stuff just to make it through the day then it is no better than having an iPhone. And on the iPhone the GPS actually works. This makes me mad because I really want open source!

the point is not the eye-candy. The point is you can customize your phone to a much greater extent with android. You have a marketplace that allows all comers and does not discriminate based on corporate agenda. I see alot of talk about battery life, and few people seem to check their phone for what processes are using the battery. Have a look (settings -> about phone -> battery use. Notice the one at the top? screen. Yeah, the brighter that thing is and the longer it's on, the more battery it draws. Lowering your brightness and/or using dark wallpapers will help, alot. The second one is either going to be voice calls or cell standby. Both of those are your 3G radio sucking the juice like no other. very little of your battery is used to power the CPU unless you are using a very CPU intensive app like a first-person game. The 3G radio will use different amounts of power depending on your reception (better = less power) and how frequently you switch towers (driving around, eg). This will vary *alot* from person to person.

speedfreak32 · Jul 29, 2010

Baldilocks said:
iPhone still scores MUCH higher in the following areas:

1. Apps. They are consistent and they all work the same way. No learning curves with new Apps. (A lot less fragmentation in other words.)
2. Consistent fluid interface thru the whole system.
3. Ease of use.

Other than that, you can't beat the customization that the Android platform offers.

I couldnt agree more. There is quite a learning curve with this platform. I honestly think that the simplicity of the iphone has made this transition a bit of a struggle.

I still cant get the thing to connect with kies. I have got everything else running smoothly.

vrsantana · Jul 29, 2010

I too have had every iphone since they came out. I became bored of basically the same OS time and time again with just a few tweaks here and there. I've had my Captivate now for about 1.5 weeks and the 2 gripes I have about the phone are:

Battery life- I have a hard time making it through a full work day on it.

Email- I found my iphone to be extremely reliable when it came to email (basic gmail) I have yet to find a good app that will give me "iPhone like" email. Basically, my emails come in late lots of times or I have to manually refresh sometimes. Not sure if everything is there. Using K9 now and it seems to be OK. We'll see.

Just my 2 cents.

rajendra82 · Jul 29, 2010

Why is everyone complaining so much about battery life. Unless you work in isolated locations like a wildlife photographer or are an undersea diver by profession, you can always plug the phone into a car or wall charger where you work or while you get there and back. Who cares about having a couple of extra chargers around and using them as you need.

Intervenient · Jul 29, 2010

I don't see that problem with the battery life either. Yes, it was HORRIBLE my first 3 days, but after switching to ADW launcher and letting it have a few drain cycles, everything is fine. I just got 26 hours yesterday (texting, gaming, streaming, listenting to music, web surfing etc in moderation) and I was still at 25%.

Simba501 · Jul 29, 2010

enjoimark said:
I drove an hour to a different town on launch day for the iPhone 4. I get it in my hands, and was excited for about 2 days. Then I realized, I'm not going to use video calling, the front camera sucks, and the LED flash is cool... but I don't use my phone for taking pics primarily. Then i soon realized that the antenna issue is VERY REAL. That pissed me off. The proximity sensor problem is real, and that pissed me off. The wasn't anything "new" about the iPhone apart from all the others. I have owned every iPhone, and really... they are all the same, just the newer one is a tad bit faster than the previous. That pissed me off. So I gave it to my girlfriend. I have/had 1 of only 17 i4's in my town (according to AT&T) and people couldn't believe that I didn't want it. When AT&T told me my line could not be upgraded, I was sad. Then they said, "Tell you what... renew your line another 2 years and we'll let you have the Captivate for $249.99". Sold. Took me about a day to get used to the Android OS, but I love it. I love the widgets, I just love thinking up things to do and/or customize on my phone, and then BAM!, making it happen.

I recommend anyone that is tired of Apple's proprietary bullshit to switch to Android. I waited and waited for AT&T to get a nice Android phone, and it has finally happened.

So... you ask "should I switch?"

My answer is...

You're god damn right you should.

Lol...

thefunks67 · Jul 29, 2010

Intervenient said:
I don't see that problem with the battery life either. Yes, it was HORRIBLE my first 3 days, but after switching to ADW launcher and letting it have a few drain cycles, everything is fine. I just got 26 hours yesterday (texting, gaming, streaming, listenting to music, web surfing etc in moderation) and I was still at 25%.

This has been my experience also. Since the last time I booted the phone it has been up for 20 hours with 31% left.

-Funk

amadrid · Jul 29, 2010

sorry guys. I just returned the Captivate for an iPhone4 - the inability for the phone to obtain a GPS signal today really burned me - I know, you will all say "just go get a real GPS unit" but I was driving to a place I THOUGHT I knew how to get to, had my google map info sent to the phone but when I needed to actually use the phone GPS it didn't work. Also, I have been a previous iphone user and I like the continuity of the applications and the commonality that the iphone app UI's share. moving photos, etc on the Captivate was a pain too. It's way easier on the iphone. I gave the Android OS a try tho.

yahoowizard · Jul 30, 2010

Does no one remember the old Apple Convo?

My Dad: Umm, batteries dying too fast...
AT&T: Turn off 3G. Turn off Wi-Fi. Lower the Brightness. Turn on airplane mode. Take out the wallpaper. Turn off notifications. Turn off push-emailing.
My Dad: Thank you sir. *drops iPhone, sticks with Blackberry which runs hours on its battery while still working*

ArainLA · Jul 30, 2010

I didn't return Captivate yet, but got an iPhone 4 for M-F. Will use Captivate on weekends and evenings when I don't need the email and battery as much.

I have USB cable I carry around to plug in through day so I could use the Captivate a full work day. I can't mess with settings.

iPhone 4 gave me a whole day till at night with no fiddling around.

I will still try and make it work. iPhone has another 30 days with no restocking fee.

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