Evo 4G vs Epic 4G

just noticed the epic 4g has a chrome border around the keyboard. looks cheap :/

tracerit said:

just noticed the epic 4g has a chrome border around the keyboard. looks cheap :/

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I personally think that looks good.

I am new, but I have to say that the Epic 4G has much better stats in the screen alone. I do like the shape and aesthetics of the EVO more, but even though I think the Epic is a little uglier, showing or watching a video on the EVO that is too fast for it will wreck the (I think) better looks.

Also people, try to keep in mind that a couple mm may be a lot relative to your phone, but I don't think your pocket will mind much. I prefer things with some weight to 'em, so I'd rather have it a little heavier.

One more thing I want to point out. With the 6-axis abilities of the Epic, it should be quite obvious that you aren't going to be restricted to the sliding keyboard, you could use the touchscreen or Swype in landscape if you'd like.

Either way, I have a Palm Treo Pro right now and I hate Windows Mobile. We don't have data, we might get it, so I am not too afraid of considering a(nother) smartphone. I am not going around switching phones, so I am going to wait until when the Epic comes out to decide which one I (might) get.

Do you people seriously keep renewing your contract just for a new phone

TunaNoCrust said:

I played with an epic yesterday.

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How did you do that since it hasn't been released yet?

I do. Since PalmOS died, I pretty much get a new phone every six months between two lines. There's nothing keeping me loyal to any phone or OS anymore so why not keep playing with new phones and see what you like and don't like till something really fits the bill.

I'll try the Epic because it's only a millimeter thicker than the Evo but has a physical keyboard. Though I have a feeling I won't like the email unless Samsung spruced it up a bit. Then when Palm or WP7 has hardware that's worthwhile on Sprint I'll pick up one of those. I play, put them through their paces, let coworkers try them out and see how it fits the bill.

kragier said:

Do you people seriously keep renewing your contract just for a new phone

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I liked my Evo a lot but turned it in to wait for a real keyboard with the Epic. Any updates on when Sprint will release it?

I was interested in the comment about renewing every 6 months. I have 5 lines on one account and Sprint told me that only the primary line is elligible for an upgrade once a year?

EarlyMon said:

Yep - and in another forum, as Fonseca pointed, as this is going to serve as little more for yet another thread where no one reads anything, jumps in, and posts away.

Bet me that in a future post, someone's going to mention and ask the same exact things already discussed.

Bet me.

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soooo EARLY, why doesn't the evo have a gpu

I'm a business account with 20+ lines. None of the family share type so it might be a bit different.

TunaNoCrust said:

In short, better screen, better camera, better hd recording, insane GPU.

No amount of devs of a strong community will change these things on our evos. HTC really screwed us with a dated 65,000 color screen and HD recording thats not even HD at all and is on par with a blackberry pearl. GPU speaks for itself. 90million/sec vs 22million/sec.

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The 64k color limitation is in the Android 2.1 gallery app. It's been established that the hardware itself is 24-bit, first here and there's a video on it, and now reviewers are going back admitting the same thing.

As to the Millions of triangle per second spec, indeed the Snapdragon is rated at 22 Mtps.

The Samsung Hummingbird s5pc100 is rated for 10 Mtps -

SAMSUNG's Digital World

You'll find plenty of comparison charts attributing 90 Mtps to that same chip, however - despite the manufacturer thinking otherwise about what they built. (In fact, one comparison chart shows two different phones using that same chip, with one phone claiming to get 10 Mtps, the other claiming 90 Mtps.) Samsung does have a later generation chip that's said to do better - so maybe it's that chip that's in the Epic. So far tho, a lot of people think it's the s5pc100.

As for the video camera, both the Droid X and Samsung Epic are achieving better video through a higher bitrate than the Evo, despite the recent update to 1.47.yadda yadda giving us a 25% bitrate increase (with another 25% possible by tweaking).

All three of the phones I just mentioned use the crappy MPEG 4(Part 2) codec for recording video. Should H.264 come to Android then it'll be quite hard to differentiate the video between the big 3. More words on that along with links to some video comparisons are here:

http://androidforums.com/htc-evo-4g/127093-forget-30fps-cap-fix-our-video-camera-first.html#post1183080

If you go with the Epic, I've no doubt you'll enjoy it, but kindly slag the Evo using only facts.

And the biggest fact is this - where the phone processors are concerned, especially the GPUs, there's a lot more fantasy that fact being fed to consumers these days.

Don't even get me started on the idiots that published a stunning expose of how crappy our Evo's GPU is - by comparing it to a phone with an identical processor and getting different results. Too bad they didn't tell people they were doing a software comparison - that would've been true.

can you swype on the Epic? No thanks.Hell I don't even swype anymore. The voice search/text works so well.

If you want a hard keyboard, slightly smaller footprint with only 1mm of added thickness, it's a good option. If you can do without the benefits of Sense, it's a good option.

It will get root and have a following in that area. The Moment had a good following. No reason to believe the Epic won't either. Do remember this is part of the Galaxy line that spans all the carriers, so it will have an even stronger development side than the Moment did.

rfss said:

And after installing Swype, I will never want/need a physical keyboard again.

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Bingo! Same here.

Ive been calling up best buys, radio shacks, and sprint stores in my area every day for the past month and none of them have the Evo. Walmart doesn't have sprint phones so that isn't an option. I really wanted the Evo but I'm starting to think about the epic. It will probably be at least a month before Evos are easily available and by that time, the epic will be out. The epic has DNLA so I could stream media to my tv. .3 inches is actually a big difference for phones but I think I would get used to it plus it would be easy for one handed use and the clarity would make up for it. I'm not worried about samsung's software or updates because I root my phones and load custom roms. The evo has a built-in kickstand which I'm really fond of but I could probably find some kind of kickstand for the epic. I also like having the option of using both the hardware keyboard and the software keyboard. Hopefully the build quality will be alright. The gpu is better on the epic so I could play 3D games more smoothly. The epic's camera is also better. If it comes out in August, I'll seriously consider getting it over the evo.

I just know I hate losing screen real estate while doing extensive typing. I'm also at the point where I'm very comfortable with on screen typing having done it on the Hero and Evo, and I can safely say I hate it. I still prefer a portrait keyboard, but I think it's a pipe dream in the near future. So I think the Epic is the only real choice for those that want a hard keyboard unless there's a WP7 option come Christmas time.

It's a great phone, I stopped by my local Sprint store to check it out, and it's very nice indeed. I'd be happy on it.

I came from a Samsung Moment, before that I had a Helio Ocean 2, 1, Samsung Drift, Heat, and so on back through Helio's lineup. I've owned a lot of Samsung phones. My original plan was to get the Moment 2/Epic when I unfortunately decided to go with Sprint, but its release date was pushed back from when I was told, so I chose the Evo.

The Moment had terrible key layout, addressed in this hardware revision. But now that I've been using the Evo for several months, I feel I am faster with Swype than on any hardware keyboard previously used, and I appreciate the thinness of this phone that comes with the slate design. It's worth the trade-off IMO, this from a die-hard slider fan. I can say that I type faster on the Evo than on any of my previous phones with physical keyboards. Due entirely to Swype of course, the stock kb is horrid.

Use whichever best suits your personal preferences. Next year this debate will be old news, as we'll all want the latest 2011 device. But I think I'll be happy with my Evo until then. And, surprisingly, I love Sense.

facekl said:

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God damn this is funny

I'm going to stick with my Evo for a couple of reasons, one I like the HTC Sense UI better, and two I had a slider before and the keyboard starts getting a little loose after a lot of uses.

The moment was aweful to me. It was ugly, cumbersome, boring/ugly UI, cheap looking and while I was at the sprint store playing with an EVO before I got mine, 1 guy came in with his 2nd returned moment that just stopped working and another lady right behind him with a defective one. I was going to put my wife on one with the family plan but after all that I couldn't even do it.

I sure hope the Epic isn't anything like the moment was.

dbpaddler said:

I just know I hate losing screen real estate while doing extensive typing. I'm also at the point where I'm very comfortable with on screen typing having done it on the Hero and Evo, and I can safely say I hate it. I still prefer a portrait keyboard, but I think it's a pipe dream in the near future. So I think the Epic is the only real choice for those that want a hard keyboard unless there's a WP7 option come Christmas time.

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HTC is suppose to have one out before Christmas..

Is the Epic going to be released in August or could it get pushed to September?

I like my Evo and i think ill stick with it for a while.
Although i have a contract upgrade in 2 months, we'll see how i like my Evo after a few more months.
Looks like itll be a keeper though.

I don't care if my phone has a keyboard or not. I don't mind having one and I don't mind not having one. If I don't really care about the keyboard, is there still a reason to get the epic? I cant find any Evos anywhere so I'm considering this phone.

facekl said:

Can a mod move this thread into a different subforum? We're getting pretty biased reviews here.

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Biased reviews are the best. People flaming each others emotional opinions, insults left and right, trolls aplenty... dont ya' just love it? =)

EVO, have it love it, love it even more now rooted with Froyo on board.
I'm not one for the hardware keyboard either which pushes me even more to the large touch screen.

your in an EVO forum, so i am going to guess 99.999% of the answers are going to be Evo. Come on guys.