With Android on the rise, do you think that Apple's iOS is dying?

hahaha what · Aug 3, 2010

no. apple's stupid computer os still hasnt been crushed by the far superior windows 7 offering. in the mobile phone field, android and ios are probably about even so tbh fat chance, glhf with your 'killing the iphone' dream

mpw · Aug 3, 2010

woofermazing said:
...At launch the phone was already behind the curve, and it will be completely outclassed within 4-6 months of launch...

I guess it depends on how you view class

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woofermazing · Aug 3, 2010

Pedro7 said:
i was under the impression that RIM was the bigshot in the smartphone business..

how blackberry's are so popular though is beyond me...

I have friends who work for the goverment and blackberrys are the only smartphone they can use.

Deleted User · Aug 3, 2010

A.Nonymous said:
Why may I ask?

so google can finally fulfill their destiny and become skynet.

mpg187 · Aug 3, 2010

Because ios is too locked down and crippled, same as WP7...

A.Nonymous · Aug 3, 2010

mpg187 said:
Because ios is too locked down and crippled, same as WP7...

And iOS is stabler, apps don't force close and the interface is much slicker and more intuitive. They achieve all these things by locking down their OS.

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

A.Nonymous said:
And iOS is stabler, apps don't force close and the interface is much slicker and more intuitive. They achieve all these things by locking down their OS.

Lmfao.. best joke of the day right there...

So care to explain how a 4x4 grid row of icons is better on iOs vs android? Even though with android you can completely customize it to what apps are and aren't on the screen, and widgets, which are very useful for all kinds of things, especialy productivity.

Notifications? Android wins hands down. On iOs, you get annoying ass pop ups that interupt anything your dowing, and once you clear it you have to manually hunt it down in whatever app it came from. Right.

Or, with android, you have a centralized place where all the notifications are,and doesn't interupt what your doing, and you can continue to use the phone until you feel like sifting through or clearing the notifications altogether. Gee, which is better?r

Intervenient · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
Lmfao.. best joke of the day right there...

So care to explain how a 4x4 grid row of icons is better on iOs vs android? Even though with android you can completely customize it to what apps are and aren't on the screen, and widgets, which are very useful for all kinds of things, especialy productivity.

Notifications? Android wins hands down. On iOs, you get annoying ass pop ups that interupt anything your dowing, and once you clear it you have to manually hunt it down in whatever app it came from. Right.

Or, with android, you have a centralized place where all the notifications are,and doesn't interupt what your doing, and you can continue to use the phone until you feel like sifting through or clearing the notifications altogether. Gee, which is better?r

The best parts about Android, yes, but completely irrelevant to the post you quoted.

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

Intervenient said:
The best parts about Android, yes, but completely irrelevant to the post you quoted.

Lol how so? Aren't those all vital parts of the ui? Last time I checked they were.you guys are just getting more ridiculous.

Intervenient · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
Lol how so? Aren't those all vital parts of the ui? Last time I checked they were.you guys are just getting more ridiculous.

And iOS is stabler, apps don't force close and the interface is much slicker and more intuitive. They achieve all these things by locking down their OS.

Where does he say anything about vital parts of the UI? He claims (and rightly so) that iOS is more stable, apps don't force close, and the interphase slicker and more intuitive. The only part your post even touched was the intuitiveness of the notification bar (which Android absolutely kicks iOS's ass at)

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

Intervenient said:
Where does he say anything about vital parts of the UI? He claims (and rightly so) that iOS is more stable, apps don't force close, and the interphase slicker and more intuitive. The only part your post even touched was the intuitiveness of the notification bar (which Android absolutely kicks iOS's ass at)

More stable? Have you tried an iphone 3g or even a 3gs withh iOs4? Apps don't force close or crash? Really? Do you believe the crap that osx is somehow magically more secure as well despite all the physical evidence?

And fyi : UI = User INTERFACE, which is exactly what was mentioned :rolleyes:

Maybe I should change that you guys are getting more ridiculous to getting more ridiculous due to cluelessness.

Intervenient · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
More stable? Have you tried an iphone 3g or even a 3gs withh iOs4? Apps don't force close or crash? Really? Do you believe the crap that osx is somehow magically more secure as well despite all the physical evidence?

And fyi : UI = User INTERFACE, which is exactly what was mentioned :rollyes:

Apple is working on fixing those issues, and we're talking about current OS on current iPhone. I've never had an app force close on me before, so yes I believe that.

I'm also well aware of what UI stands for.

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

Intervenient said:
Apple is working on fixing those issues, and we're talking about current OS on current iPhone. I've never had an app force close on me before, so yes I believe that.

I'm also well aware of what UI stands for.

Apparently you didn't, because you said a UI has nothing to do with an interface lol... do you refer to a computer as a cpu as well?

(And you actually said interphase, not interface. Just felt like I add to point that out as well.)

Intervenient · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
Apparently you didn't, because you said a UI has nothing to do with an interface lol... do you refer to a computer as a cpu as well?

(And you actually said interphase, not interface. Just felt like I add to point that out as well.)

Let me rephrase this so even you can understand. See in my original post, I assumed (incorrectly) that people would pick out a certain word that you used:

Where does he say anything about vital parts of the UI? He claims (and rightly so) that iOS is more stable, apps don't force close, and the interphase slicker and more intuitive. The only part your post even touched was the intuitiveness of the notification bar (which Android absolutely kicks iOS's ass at)

(hint, it's in bold)

Vital - adj. concerned with or necessary to the maintenance of life

Yes, the word I'm looking for is VITAL. You all of a sudden made his post in a matter of vital aspects of the UI when he never once mentioned anything about vital parts of the UI. He claimed the OS is stable, and it allows apps to run smoothly. Nothing to do with the UI yet. Then, when he actually mentions the UI, he says it's slick and intuitive. Never does he say it's a vital part.

IOWA said:
... do you refer to a computer as a cpu as well?

(And you actually said interphase, not interface. Just felt like I add to point that out as well.)

These are great little quotes. Shows how bow-down worthy and internet awesome you are.

(And you actually said "add" instead of "ought". Just felt like I ought to point that out as well.)

pdxrealtor · Aug 4, 2010

First- I have to admit I skipped most of this thread after the first page.

Now....

My best assessment of the Android OS-- It's a perfect cross between a Windows phone and an iPhone.

Think about it. The A. OS allows customization out of the box (without roms etc) just like the Windows M. phones, while at the same time offering the features and overall stability of an iPhone.

It's really genius and I believe that eventually the iPhone will loose significant market share to the Android phones. (I've owned iPhone since day one, and I just made my switch to Android for the second time.. first time is a long story and i ended up with BB)

I still own a 3rd gen iPod touch. Love it.... use it in the gym every day, use it at night when I can't sleep. It's my main media device.

I like to have a phone and a music player separate with a little bit of cross functionality if needed on the phone side.

Sure there will always be a place for the iPhones, they're simple to use and any monkey can make one work the way they want.

Give that monkey an Android based phone and they can make it work, but they would not have a clue on how to make it work even better.

That's what I love about the Android- I can tinker with it and make it work like I WANT it to work and still have a great phone, yet not be locked down to one email program.

C'mon.... until iOS4 you couldn't even make folders or custom wallpapers! Files and folders?? I'm an iPhone, what does that mean?

Someone said earlier.... different strokes for different folks.

The iPhone's here to stay, but it has and will loose market share to the Android based phones.

***Disclaimer*** This was based off of the average consumer who doesn't know what rooting a phone, rom, or jail break means. :rolleyes:

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

Intervenient said:
Let me rephrase this so even you can understand. See in my original post, I assumed (incorrectly) that people would pick out a certain word that you used:

(hint, it's in bold)

Vital - adj. concerned with or necessary to the maintenance of life

Yes, the word I'm looking for is VITAL. You all of a sudden made his post in a matter of vital aspects of the UI when he never once mentioned anything about vital parts of the UI. He claimed the OS is stable, and it allows apps to run smoothly. Nothing to do with the UI yet. Then, when he actually mentions the UI, he says it's slick and intuitive. Never does he say it's a vital part.

These are great little quotes. Shows how bow-down worthy and internet awesome you are.

(And you actually said "add" instead of "ought". Just felt like I ought to point that out as well.)

And now you play semantics, and very poorly at that.

If your going to post the definition of a word, post the whole thing.

vi

Intervenient · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
And now you play semantics, and very poorly at that.

If your going to post the definition of a word, post the whole thing.

Is that clear enough for "even you to understand"? "Hint, its in bold"

Maybe you need to expand your vocabulary before attacking others uses of vocabulary when your already losing an argument, eh chief?

I didn't expect you to get stuck in the little things of my post. Perhaps you got so caught up in appearing like an internet bad ass, I don't know. I never once attacked your vocablulary, I attacked the point you made. Here is what I said:

You all of a sudden made his post a matter of vital aspects of the UI when he never once mentioned anything about vital parts of the UI. He claimed the OS is stable, and it allows apps to run smoothly. Nothing to do with the UI yet. Then, when he actually mentions the UI, he says it's slick and intuitive. Never does he say it's a vital part.

This is what I wanted you to respond to. Not that you can use an online dictionary, and use copy and paste, even though (admittedly) that's very impressive for someone like you.

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

Intervenient said:
I didn't expect you to get stuck in the little things of my post. Perhaps you got so caught up in appearing like an internet bad ass, I don't know. I never once attacked your vocablulary, I attacked the point you made. Here is what I said:

You all of a sudden made his post a matter of vital aspects of the UI when he never once mentioned anything about vital parts of the UI. He claimed the OS is stable, and it allows apps to run smoothly. Nothing to do with the UI yet. Then, when he actually mentions the UI, he says it's slick and intuitive. Never does he say it's a vital part.

This is what I wanted you to respond to. Not that you can use an online dictionary, and use copy and paste, even though (admittedly) that's very impressive for someone like you.

Lol really? Not only do you have multiple reading comprehension fails in this thread alone, you then try to attack my intelligence... lmfao... keep scrambling. Perhaps you should re-read what was posted in this thread before making a not even half-witted attack someone's intelligence that has out-classed you every step of the way bud. Oh btw, thread reported.

Intervenient · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
Lol really? Not only do you have multiple reading comprehension fails in this thread alone, you then try to attack my intelligence... lmfao... keep scrambling. Perhaps you should re-read what was posted in this thread before making a not even half-witted attack someone's intelligence that has out-classed you every step of the way bud. Oh btw, thread reported.

You've not outclassed me every step, as you have side stepped the actual point every single time.

IOWA · Aug 4, 2010

Intervenient said:
You've not outclassed me every step, as you have side stepped the actual point every single time.

Side stepped what exactly? Your selective definitions of words, misuse/misunderstanding of acronyms, or the fact you seem to be putting words in my mouth which I never said?(and then corrected you on such matters, in which YOU were the one doing the side stepping here, and poorly at that, and forced you to eat your words. Then you go off on some child like rampage trying but unsuccessfully attacking my intelligence, in which you failed at again.)

He said the ui is slicker and more intuitive. I say nay, as the vital(most important, just to be clear) parts of the ui are much, much better on android.

He mentioned stability, I say nay, as ios4 completely broke some iphones, and has crashed many others, leaving them buggy and laggy at best. And even before ios4, apps still crashed. There is no computer system in existence that is glitch/bug free. To believe so is purely naive.

Slug · Aug 4, 2010

This is a discussion forum, not a kindergarten playground. Therefore please refrain from:

Personal insults
Demeaning remarks
Arguing about trivia simply to provoke a reaction
Grammar policing

Thank you for your co-operation.

mpw · Aug 4, 2010

Slug said:
This is a discussion forum, not a kindergarten playground. Therefore please refrain from:

Personal insults
Demeaning remarks
Arguing about trivia simply to provoke a reaction
Grammar policing...

...and running with scissors

A.Nonymous · Aug 4, 2010

IOWA said:
Lmfao.. best joke of the day right there...

So care to explain how a 4x4 grid row of icons is better on iOs vs android? Even though with android you can completely customize it to what apps are and aren't on the screen, and widgets, which are very useful for all kinds of things, especialy productivity.

Notifications? Android wins hands down. On iOs, you get annoying ass pop ups that interupt anything your dowing, and once you clear it you have to manually hunt it down in whatever app it came from. Right.

Or, with android, you have a centralized place where all the notifications are,and doesn't interupt what your doing, and you can continue to use the phone until you feel like sifting through or clearing the notifications altogether. Gee, which is better?r

None of this has much of anything to do with my post. I said the following about iOS 4

1. It's stabler than Android. This is a fact.
2. Apps don't force close. I've used an iTouch for 4-5 months. Never had an app crash until I jailbroke the thing. Had my DInc a month and a half. Have had apps crash several times.
3. The interface is slicker. Again, this is a fact. Slide between home screens on Android, slide between home screens on iOS. iOS is slicker.
4. The interface is more intuitive. A monkey could use iOS and do whatever they wanted.

None of this makes iOS necessarily better than Android. Android's notification bar is a big thing iOS lacks. You can obviously do way more customization with Android. I'd never give my mom an Android phone though. She would have no clue how to use it. I'd give her an iPhone if I had to choose between the two as it's much simpler to use.

Ploof · Aug 4, 2010

I really think iOS is going down. Android makes wonderful devices with great technology, with Apple, there isnt much Variety. How many is there? 1. With different versions. And usually, and what I think is if someone has an iPod Touch, they wouldnt be getting an iPhone because they mostly have what iPhone has to offer. With Android, over 50 phones isn't there?

In Conclusion: Android has more phones, to extend to better -inside- tech. Android is also more dependable, especially with iPhone's latest downfall on the iPhone 4.

A.Nonymous · Aug 4, 2010

Ploof said:
I really think iOS is going down. Android makes wonderful devices with great technology, with Apple, there isnt much Variety. How many is there? 1. With different versions. And usually, and what I think is if someone has an iPod Touch, they wouldnt be getting an iPhone because they mostly have what iPhone has to offer. With Android, over 50 phones isn't there?

In Conclusion: Android has more phones, to extend to better -inside- tech. Android is also more dependable, especially with iPhone's latest downfall on the iPhone 4.

One device that runs iOS? Haven't you heard of the iPad, the iTouch and the iPhone? That's three devices and all of them are cash cows. I've got an iTouch and an Android phone and I use both devices so there is a market for people who have both smart phones and iTouches. I'm always amused at people who predict the demise of big companies like MS or Apple. I've been to the funeral of Windows many, many times already and I'm sure I'll go the funeral again a few times before it's all over. Now we're sounding the death knell for the flagship OS of Apple.

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