Quite a bit more to it than that - otherwise it would have ported easier. Look up JIT - it fundamentally changes how applications are executed on Android.
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Quite a bit more to it than that - otherwise it would have ported easier. Look up JIT - it fundamentally changes how applications are executed on Android.
You are misinformed, or you've not run both 2.1 and 2.2, or you've not run 2.2 for very long, or you've run 2.2 for a while but have not explored it thoroughly.
JIT alone is a huge move from one style of rendering to another completely different style with altogether different software technology.
The philosophy of Froyo is similar to its predecessor, it's Android, after all, but it could be compared to the differences between Windows 2000 and Windows 7; fundamental changes came about.
Having said that, I still believe it is a bit of a stretch to allow stock (un-rooted/un-overclocked) Erises to run 2.2 as an upgrade; it's slower on that processor unless tweaked up a bit, say from 528 to 729, then we have 2.2 pretty close to as it is meant to be experienced.
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My apologies, I didn't really say what I meant well in my last post.. the move from 1.5 to 2.1 was basically a complete code rewrite for the OS, and the from 2.1 to 2.2 was addition to the code.
The nomenclature for version numbers usually (not always, but usually) follow the same format... first digit change is usually code rewrite resulting in a significant jump in functionality, and the number following the dot denotes significant features/bug fixes added to existing code and core functionality.
Technically, the most recent update to 2.1 could be denoted as 2.1.1 or 2.1a since it was just a few bug fixes for the most part.
The nomenclature for version numbers usually (not always, but usually) follow the same format... first digit change is usually code rewrite resulting in a significant jump in functionality, and the number following the dot denotes significant features/bug fixes added to existing code and core functionality.
Technically, the most recent update to 2.1 could be denoted as 2.1.1 or 2.1a since it was just a few bug fixes for the most part.
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I dont remember exactly, but I remember Jcase saying something about Froyo being meant to run on ARM v7 processors while the Eris only has an ARM v6. While this doesn't make it impossible for the Eris to run it, however he seemed to imply that most of the optimizations and improvements had to be removed due to compatibility issues.
The Verizon/Google team for the Eris obviously know this, and its probably why the Eris will not see Froyo officially. Not just because they're lazy or have forgotten about Eris owners.
The Verizon/Google team for the Eris obviously know this, and its probably why the Eris will not see Froyo officially. Not just because they're lazy or have forgotten about Eris owners.
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Thought I'd jump in here and add to what Frisco said.
The current Cyanogen/Froyo (root) ROMs are getting to the point of being extremely useable - almost, but not quite perfect. Working Wifi, GPS, MMS, Camera, tethering, overclocking, a bevy of Apps to replace Sense, and decent battery life with reasonable OC profiles set up.
If you have never rooted, you will be blown away at what a different phone the Eris is with Froyo @ 700+ Mhz - even without JIT enabled.
eu1
The current Cyanogen/Froyo (root) ROMs are getting to the point of being extremely useable - almost, but not quite perfect. Working Wifi, GPS, MMS, Camera, tethering, overclocking, a bevy of Apps to replace Sense, and decent battery life with reasonable OC profiles set up.
If you have never rooted, you will be blown away at what a different phone the Eris is with Froyo @ 700+ Mhz - even without JIT enabled.
eu1
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The Camera Magic app is working very well for me on the Tazz v5 ROM.
Side note: the menus in this ROM need to be thoroughly perused and taken advantage of for best performance and for riddance of an annoyance here and there such as the Sprint branding on the lock screen and notification area.
Every user knows about the ADW menu, but the menu > settings tree will give you "CyanogenMod settings" as well, along with the "automatic restore" check-box feature in "privacy" of all places.
Get this ROM, or any Froyo, and explore.. have fun. It does need to be overclocked to force it up to speed, though. Mine's at 729 and is working well.
Side note: the menus in this ROM need to be thoroughly perused and taken advantage of for best performance and for riddance of an annoyance here and there such as the Sprint branding on the lock screen and notification area.
Every user knows about the ADW menu, but the menu > settings tree will give you "CyanogenMod settings" as well, along with the "automatic restore" check-box feature in "privacy" of all places.
Get this ROM, or any Froyo, and explore.. have fun.
It does need to be overclocked to force it up to speed, though. Mine's at 729 and is working well.
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Indeed.
This pic snapped from tazzpatriot's Froyo/CM6 "V5" ROM using "Camera Magic"
The app "Camera" definitely does not work for me, but "Camera Magic" does - the horizontal bars in the above are due to strobing interlace on the CRT, not the Eris camera. (Yes, people still own CRTs
)Thanks to Frisco for edumacating me.
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At the top of this forum, the very top, there is a link to the "all things root (eris)" discussions. You will need to also become familiar with the XDA Dev forum. The Eris specific forum is here: HTC Droid Eris - xda-developers
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The early releases of 2.1 had many more bugs then the final v3 version. Saying bugless is a bit of a stretch, but with professional testing. With a team dedicated entirely to debugging many of the bugs would be fixed faster. The team working on Froyo for Eris is doing a great job considering they most likely do other things for dayjobs or school.Yes, because that is EXACTLY what happened with 2.1
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I get a bit irked when people, with their issues, attempt to coat my phone with those issues.
I don't know about the leaked 2.1s because the first 2.1 to enter my Eris was the official OTA.
Again (I think this is the last time I'm going to type this because, simply, I've grown weary of the repetition):
- zero bugs or issues in my (and likely the majority) 1.5
- zero bugs or issues in my (and likely the majority) 2.1 OTA
- online forums for devices attract people googling problems with said devices, thus:
- we see a majority of online forum users with problems with said devices, thus:
- users in the forums with device problems assume it is they who are in the majority in the overall population owning said device, when in fact:
- the majority of device users have zero true bugs and serious issues
I don't know about the leaked 2.1s because the first 2.1 to enter my Eris was the official OTA.
Again (I think this is the last time I'm going to type this because, simply, I've grown weary of the repetition):
- zero bugs or issues in my (and likely the majority) 1.5
- zero bugs or issues in my (and likely the majority) 2.1 OTA
- online forums for devices attract people googling problems with said devices, thus:
- we see a majority of online forum users with problems with said devices, thus:
- users in the forums with device problems assume it is they who are in the majority in the overall population owning said device, when in fact:
- the majority of device users have zero true bugs and serious issues
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Frisco, so true! Forums are often so misleading in this sense (although I should say I am among the minority who did suffer from 2.1 bugs...)
An example from a different aspect of life. You come down sick with something. The good doctor prescribes you some meds, pats you on you shoulder and says get well, buddy. You go home, happy to, no biggie, take the pills and everything will be a-ok. Then you make The Mistake. You go on the web and Google the meds side-effects. And the sh*t hits you big time! You read the blogs on the particular medicine you are prescribed and you come to the conclusion that the good doctor has an affair with your wife and now he is trying to kill you.....
That is the way these forums/blogs work.
Peter
Addendum: blogs of course are important sources of information but the view of things you can get can be quite distorted.
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I am sure this becomes obvious once you take the plunge, but -
What keeps me from going Froyo is the uncertainty about what happens to my SD card. Does it need to be partitioned when I go to Froyo? How annoying is that going to be when I go back to a 2.1 ROM, and now the SD card has copies of the apps there, as well as apps on the phone?
Can someone who has been through the process please elaborate in some detail?
(This is also why I have avoided apps2sd)
What keeps me from going Froyo is the uncertainty about what happens to my SD card. Does it need to be partitioned when I go to Froyo? How annoying is that going to be when I go back to a 2.1 ROM, and now the SD card has copies of the apps there, as well as apps on the phone?
Can someone who has been through the process please elaborate in some detail?
(This is also why I have avoided apps2sd)
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Slugdoc, no - your SD card needs to be in a single partition. I was using apps2SD and had it partitioned, and then when I installed the kaos.froyo ROM, I reformatted it to just one. It has been much more stable for me than when I was using apps2SD... Not really sure what the behavior would be switching back to a 2.1 ROM - I haven't had any desire to do so.
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I went from 2.1 to Tazz froyo back to 2.1 in less than a day.
This is just 1.5 to 2.1 all over again! The rom was cool but unfinished.
I don’t understand why some are saying Verizon reps are telling people eris is getting 2.2
Maybe they are confused between droid and droid eris.
Only time will tell but if you really need froyo then try a ROM at least you'll get a feel of it if it doesn't officially come to eris.
This is just 1.5 to 2.1 all over again! The rom was cool but unfinished.
I don’t understand why some are saying Verizon reps are telling people eris is getting 2.2
Maybe they are confused between droid and droid eris.
Only time will tell but if you really need froyo then try a ROM at least you'll get a feel of it if it doesn't officially come to eris.
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wish the kernel gets to the people at xda soon. camera magic is acceptable but the picture it takes is terrible.
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