AT&T "subtlety" punches back

Deleted User · Nov 24, 2009

Verizon should sue AT&T because it makes us dumb consumers think that the Droid can't multi-task. We don't know better.

spectrrr · Nov 24, 2009

Darkbleed said:
I'd have to say the new ads from AT&T are a stroke of genius.

Verizon: "We have more 3G coverage, a better network, and finally a smartphone that can compete with smartphones on other networks."

AT&T: "We have iPhones, Luke Wilson, and rollover minutes that have zero value and expire at the end of the year! Buy a higher priced plan with more minutes and SAVE!!!"

Smart consumer: "You are paying a carrier for their network coverage... right?"

Stupid consumer: "iPhone and Luke Wilson!!!!! Rollover minutes save money!!! Yay!!!"

Since stupid consumers > smart consumers, AT&T has clearly concocted a winning strategy.

best. post. ever.

T0LLPHR33 · Nov 24, 2009

spectrrr said:
best. post. ever.

couldn't agree with you more...

that being said...my parents and I all used to work for verizon prior to them selling their shares in hawaii...only thing left in hawaii is verizon wireless and no more land services... :mad:

but reason being that finally apple and at&t are fighting back is they know they suck...AT&T can't compete with verizon at all...did you guys know that every other month verizon puts over $1billion back into their networking to provide service coverage and availability. that's over $6 billion in 1 year...and they do this every other month...Also verizon wasn't willing to bend over backwards and let Apple take 80% of the profits...now that the Droids out and both apple and AT&T have scene what it can do and how much more functional it is compared to the iPhone they have to start throwing jabs to keep up with sales.

let AT&T and Apple take their jabs...that's what losers do...VERIZON EATS EM FOR BREAKFAST...rofl

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

droidism said:
There are times in which surfing the web while talking is helpful (they gave great examples) but for the most part I don't feel a lack not having that capability. Besides, on a crappy network it doesn't really matter.

I'm sure people might **think** they will be holding an iphone to their ear AND navigating the web at the same time. I mean do you really use speakerphone 100% of the time....

....oh wait, if the iphone doesn't even ring, it's all a moot point

Like said above, I'll take much faster data speeds over those ads anyday. You know that Apple is on a downhill run when they have to vehemently defend their crappy products. Most of their iphone fanbois will be coming out of contract next summer from the THREEG, I'll bet most of them will be happy to jump ship from ATT.

ATT can DIAFJB!!!!!

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

T0LLPHR33 said:
did you guys know that every other month verizon puts over $1billion back into their networking to provide service coverage and availability. that's over $6 billion in 1 year...and they do this every other month

Yup, anyone in telco knows what Verizon is doing!! Building the best network, which is not only cell towers but also the physical network that is required to connect all these cell towers together.

Other providers are not building up their backhauls, and it's showing!

T0LLPHR33 · Nov 24, 2009

syntrix said:
Yup, anyone in telco knows what Verizon is doing!! Building the best network, which is not only cell towers but also the physical network that is required to connect all these cell towers together.

Other providers are not building up their backhauls, and it's showing!

not only cell towers but satellites as well...

for better GPS coverage...but I completely agree with you bro...its definitely showing...

but glad to see and hear that others know what I'm talking about...

I've been called out by AT&T employees saying I don't know what I'm talking about...when my dad at 1 time was running the Engineering department for Verizon in hawaii and my mom was running the billings department also in hawaii...

the hotel I work at now as an audio visual technician...verizon every november comes down for a 2 day seminar/meeting for the sales coordinators and regional managers. I've spoken to the CEO and Vice President on several occasion especially when the iPhone battle between verizon and AT&T were going down...they have confirmed many questions and issues...that's how I am able to keep up with the industry now that my parents no longer work for verizon...

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

T0LLPHR33 said:
I've been called out by AT&T employees saying I don't know what I'm talking about...

That enough shows ignorance on ATT Employee knowledge.

It's like trying to say that AOL dialup is faster than ADSL

T0LLPHR33 · Nov 24, 2009

syntrix said:
It's like trying to say that AOL dialup is faster than ADSL

...I couldn't agree with you more...

CRPercodani · Nov 24, 2009

I don't know any of the technical aspects involved in the backhaul part of a network, but a good friend of mine does that for a living and he ALWAYS tells me how crappy AT&T's is. He will go on and on complaining about how old the equipment they use is and that he can't believe they can get away with having such a outdated network. He says they have more trouble then the other big 3 combined when it comes to equipment failure and error. I'm surprised they haven't upgraded everything considering they make so much $$ from the iPhone data plans, hell T-Mobile has better equipment then them and they are small in size compared to AT&T.

Bigger than you · Nov 24, 2009

I first saw the New ATT commercial with Luke Wilson 2 nights ago around 11:00 p.m. central.It had the Verizon map colored orange,same areas.

Later the next day11/22 I went for a cut and next door was a ATT store,New,very nice looking and empty as it could be, with one lonely employee coming to the front plate glass window and looking out at people driving by like a puppy dog.

Was funny as heck.Its good to see a fight every now and again!

T0LLPHR33 · Nov 24, 2009

CRPercodani said:
I don't know any of the technical aspects involved in the backhaul part of a network, but a good friend of mine does that for a living and he ALWAYS tells me how crappy AT&T's is. He will go on and on complaining about how old the equipment they use is and that he can't believe they can get away with having such a outdated network. He says they have more trouble then the other big 3 combined when it comes to equipment failure and error. I'm surprised they haven't upgraded everything considering they make so much $$ from the iPhone data plans, hell T-Mobile has better equipment then them and they are small in size compared to AT&T.

thats the thing bro...AT&T isn't making money on the iPhones...its APPLE that's making most of the money...actually 80% to be more accurate...

the data plans are 1 thing but Apple controls the activation through iTunes. It also controls the downloading content and purchasing of applications, music, videos, etc...because of this very same reason that's why VERIZON opted not to take the iPhone under its wing. Although Apple wanted VERIZON's network, coverage, and speed Verizon wasn't willing to give up the profit margin that APPLE demanded from them.

It was only a matter of time till Verizon teamed up with a cell phone manufacturer and a internet mogul like GOOGLE...now that we have literally the best phone out on the market AT&T and Apple are now scrambling to upgrade software and hardware...but upgrading software will only take you so far...your hardware is going to need updating eventually and like your friend stated...AT&T is using technology that is so old VERIZON outdated that stuff over 10 years ago...

drabidea · Nov 24, 2009

when Google makes an update to there "phone app", what is ATT going to complain about??

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

Remember that 3G coverage map commercial from verizon?

Well apparently ATT EDGE service (the huge white gaps on their coverage map) will not allow data and voice at the same time

detroid · Nov 24, 2009

So, next year when VZW launches their 4G LTE network, will this allow voice and data to be used simultaneously?

Also the user above made a good point about Google Voice.

T0LLPHR33 · Nov 24, 2009

detroid said:
So, next year when VZW launches their 4G LTE network, will this allow voice and data to be used simultaneously?

yes it will...

prerunnerseth · Nov 24, 2009

The fact is, the best thing about the iphone is the apps. With android hitting the main stream and showing up on all the carriers in force with a lot of phones, the apps will flow like there is no tomorrow. Just look at all the new stuff that has come out just in response to the droid. The ATT ads are funny. Thousands of apps. But only one phone that has them.

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

prerunnerseth said:
The fact is, the best thing about the iphone is the apps. With android hitting the main stream and showing up on all the carriers in force with a lot of phones, the apps will flow like there is no tomorrow. Just look at all the new stuff that has come out just in response to the droid. The ATT ads are funny. Thousands of apps. But only one phone that has them.

Actually I asked how I can access these "thousands of apps" on a HTC winmo device, since that was not in the highlight box :laugh:

Saying something is fact, when it's not a fact is purely speculation. Having "thousands of crap apps in itunes is just great". I think the droid hits most of the popular ones already, and it also delivers popular apps that the itunes store doesn't have.

Ataranine · Nov 24, 2009

andrewdoane said:
iPhone doesn't need to have simultaneous web browsing and call. They drop so many calls you just wait till the call is dropped, get your movie time, then call back and shout it in the 8 seconds before the second call is dropped. No big deal.

You know the feature you're touting is not a big deal when I didn't even realize my phone couldn't do it because I have never tried it.

OMG Quote of the year, that's goin in my sig! That's hilarious!!

dmm · Nov 24, 2009

droidism said:
Yeah I am anal at times ;-)

the correct spelling is "Subtlety"

Actually it's "subtly" lol

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

So on the ATT edge network and no data when on a call, confirmed by many people.

What's funny, is that I don't see a disclaimer on the new ads about that! Maybe the mention it at the beginning and I didn't notice it. Either way, ATT 3G required, and their 3G map is TINY compared to VZ's. Not to mention all the other issues discussed already in this thread!

Ataranine · Nov 24, 2009

dmm said:
Actually it's "subtly" lol

Correct you are. ;P

gwlaw99 · Nov 24, 2009

Not to mention the iphone can't multi task apps. icant listen to padora and surf the web at the same time.

Ataranine · Nov 24, 2009

gwlaw99 said:
Not to mention the iphone can't multi task apps. icant listen to padora and surf the web at the same time.

Everything iDon't, DROID does.

detroid · Nov 24, 2009

gwlaw99 said:
Not to mention the iphone can't multi task apps. icant listen to padora and surf the web at the same time.

This is a total deal breaker for me regarding the iPhone. Nothing to head bang along to while checking phandroid forums?! LAME!

iPhone users could buy an iPod shuffle and duct tape it to the back of their iPhone I suppose.

syntrix · Nov 24, 2009

detroid said:
iPhone users could buy an iPod shuffle and duct tape it to the back of their iPhone I suppose.

INGENIOUS!!!!!!!!!! :cool:

Could sell a multi-task kit to them for $10, wait call it an iMultiTask iKit and sell it for $40. It'll be a piece of double sided tape!

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