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Feedback on Behold2 please?

marstodd,

Are you talking about RAM or ROM? I was under the impression that the Behold II had 320 MB of RAM and that the ROM figures are 512 MB (total) with 200 MB available as free storage. I'm still waiting for when the Behold II can be successfully hacked, so that we can take advantage at the amount of RAM that it has at its disposal. This would also solve the problem of its paltry ROM offerings, as the user could then save applications to the SD card.

Murf
 
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fallenturtle,

I am a fan of the case. It seems to be made from microfiber, so it doubles as a screen cleaner--and it does a good job, too. The headphones are wired earbuds, and each earbud's wire meets at a button/microphone before it leads to the 3.5 mm headphone jack. They sound surprisingly good, with clear response in all registers--of course, with slightly underpowered bass support. Unfortunately, they are uncomfortable for my ears, so I do not use them.

Case/Pouch: Good, also cleans screen
Earbuds: Wired, with handsfree button/microphone built in, good sound quality, but uncomfortable

Murf
 
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I got this phone last Friday, and so far I like it :)

I wouldn't consider myself a power user in any way, shape or form. I wanted a new phone that would let me browse the web, listen to tunes in my work truck, and show me where the nearest Dunkin Donuts is located. I also wanted a camera that would take good enough pictures that I would not feel so bad about forgetting to bring my SLR along with me on the odd occasions that I don't feel like carrying it around. I was also tied to T-Mobile as I'm on a family plan and my hubby already upgraded his phone this year, so I couldn't change carriers.

In short, I'm pretty happy with my purchase. The price is a little steep, but I had $200 earmarked for a new phone so I paid up. The phone feels good in my teenytiny child sized hands, and I really like the world map imprinted on the back. The buttons are nice and positive, though I've found myself hitting them when I don't mean to, mostly because I'm still using the little velvet slip case that the phone comes with and I press the buttons while trying to slide it out of the case. On that note, I did order a screen protector and gel case, which I think will eliminate that problem and also protect the phone (I have an active job and use my phone a lot, so phones tend to take a bit of abuse from me).

After a couple of days' use, I got used to the keyboard (though I might try the keyboard suggested in this thread). I have really small fingers, so that helps... I'm not sure how well you'd do with it if you happened to have big fat fingers. My previous phone was a Dash, so it's a bit of a learning curve to type on the touch keyboard.

I tried out the camera on a couple of shots and was really impressed with the quality. The 5mp camera was the big reason that I waited for the Behold II instead of getting the MT3G. There really is no comparison between this camera and the sucky camera on my Dash... this one is almost as good as my old 6mp Canon point 'n' shoot. It's not as good as having a dedicated camera along with you, but I always carry my phone whereas I only sometimes carry my camera.

The screen is amazing! Unlike my old Dash, I was able to see the screen perfectly well in full sunlight. Living in the desert, there's a lot of full sunlight. I work outdoors, and I was continually having to shade my old phone with my hand so I could see the screen. With this phone, I didn't have to shade it at all, though I did turn it to the brightest setting just to make sure.

The 3.5mm headphone jack is great! I have one of those FM transmitter thingies so I can play MP3s in my work truck (truck only has a radio - no CD or MP3 player). I used the LastFM app to play commercial free music from my phone through the truck speakers. It worked very well, though it used quite a lot of battery power. Before I do this again I will invest in a car charger for the phone, because I ran out of juice halfway through the afternoon. My biggest wish for this would be the ability to get BBC radio stations on my phone with the BBC iPlayer. I use the iPlayer for radio all the time on my PC at home, but it's Flash based and I couldn't find a Flash player for Android.

I haven't really messed around with the apps too much. I did download Taskiller in order to keep the phone running smoothly. I also installed the WiFi on/off switch so I can hook it up to my home WiFi network quickly and easily. I tried the GPS on/off switch, but it messed up my Bluetooth settings and it took me an hour to figure out how to reconnect my Bluetooth (very frustrating).

On the subject of Bluetooth, I did have a few issues with it. First off my old Jabra 125 earpiece, which was fairly quiet with my Dash, was extremely faint with the Behold II, so much that I had to jam the thing into my ear to hear on a couple of occasions. It also had a tendency to fade in and out a bit... I don't know whether this is the fault of the phone or the Bluetooth, but I'm not really happy with it and will be looking for a louder Bluetooth. Secondly, the lack of Bluetooth voice dialing on Android is both surpising and annoying. From what I've read, this is a problem with all Android devices, not just this one. On WinMo, I could click the button on the Bluetooth and it would automatically be ready for a speech command like "Call Home", then it would dial. I can't do this on the Behold II, and therefore I can't make outgoing phone calls while driving (I won't mess with pressing buttons on the phone unless I'm at a light). I hope they fix this soon!

The other apps I've used have been positive experiences: the GPS found my location quicker than my old dedicated GPS, though I don't think it will be as accurate (accuracy is more important for Geocaching and less important for finding a place to get a coffee though). The music player worked well. The web browser took me a while to figure out because it has a zoom panel on it that lets you see in closeup one particular area of the page. Pages loaded pretty quickly on 3G though. I set up the email with my Yahoo email account and it downloaded every single message I had on there going back to 2002! I couldn't figure out how to get it to only download new stuff, and I couldn't find a setting to select whether if you delete an email off the phone, it deletes it from the web server also (I didn't want to delete these old emails from the web server, and I'm afraid if I delete it from the phone it will disappear... anyone know this for sure?).

The cube thingy... well, it's just a gimmick. It's kinda cool to shake the phone and have the cube spin the first 2 times... I haven't used it since. The interface itself seems pretty smooth going from screen to screen, as long as you give it a moment to sort itself out after booting up (kinda like when you first boot up Windows, it takes a few seconds to open your programs even if you click them immediately). When you tilt the phone to the side to get the landscape keyboard, it takes a second to think about it and then transitions. It's not annoyingly long... nothing on the phone is really sluggish.

Turtle: the headset it comes with is wired. Personally, I'm not gonna use it... I would rather use dedicated audio earphones for music and a single ear Bluetooth for calls.

Now a question: what is Open Home and what exactly would it do for my phone if I installed it?
 
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mahgnillig,

Thank you for your in-depth comments! Open Home is a home replacement application that you can download from Android Market. It is only one of several home replacement apps, and it costs $2.99 to install. I have installed it on my Behold II, and I love it. Other home replacement apps include: Panda, dxTop, aHome, etc. If you install one of these applications, it will replace how your home screen looks and feels. For the Behold II, with its TouchWiz interface, this means that installing a home replacement application will make the home screen act and behave more like a typical Android interface--without that "I'm inside a cube" feel of TouchWiz. I find that it makes the transitions smoother and quicker, and it moves the pull-out application tray from the left side of the screen back down to the bottom, where it won't get in the way when flipping from screen to screen. The applications in the pull-out tray will no longer "stick" as they scroll and will instead be much more fluid. From reading some of this forum's threads, people seem quite pleased with the free offerings of Panda, so if you'd like to see what it's all about, maybe give that a try.

Congrats on your new phone and welcome to the forums!

Murf
 
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Edit sorry took my sweet time answering and got beat to it

open home is a themed skin for the phone that changes the aperance of the screens and the menus. it changes it to a more stock android experience. The behold 2 is running a custom interface that goes over android, so for people who are not use to the look and feel of the behold custom interface they are able to switch to something more familiar. i hope that helps. i recomened downloading open home lite as its free and allows uyou to get an idea of the new interface before downloading open home full which is the 4$ and some change.
 
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mahgnillig,

It will leave the notifications bar alone--I like that feature as well. Also, at least with Open Home, everything is highly customizable, so if you do not like how your home replacement has done something, like how Open Home came with a dedicated search button on the home screen, it is usually very easily customized to fit your needs. For me, Open Home + gChrome + Creatures Icons was the way to go, but that's the nice thing about Android--there are so many options!

Murf
 
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Heh, it hadn't even occurred to me that this could be used to listen to internet radio on the go. Are the data plans for the Android truly unlimited or will one hit a cap eventually if they use to much internet radio? Being able to listen to woxy.com in my car would be awesome.

I think the cap with tmobile is something like 5GB, but even with streaming internet radio you'll be hard pressed to actually hit that.
 
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I have a question. i want see if anyone is having the same problem so i can decide my course of action. I didnt purchase my phone i traded for it therefore i dont qualify to exchange it with tmobile. Im noticing that every so often, its too random to say when, that the sd card is unmounted and instantly remounted by the phone. Its really more of an annoyance than an issue but im worried it might lead to problems later on such as my card being wiped clean(16gb sd card). Anyone else experiencing this?
 
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defiantbeast, I have a 16GB card in as well and I haven't noticed any unmounting/remounting on mine. But I've only got about 5GB on it so far, how much is on yours?

As an aside, I wish there was a way to manually unmount and mount the SD card without removing it.

Oh, and thanks for the HTC keyboard chaoscentral.
 
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jazzedmurf: No I mean a button on the phone that allows you unmount the sd card so it's not accessible to the phone, and another button (or click on the same button) will mount it so apps have access to the SD card again. Basically what I want is for the mount/umount commands of the underlying Linux system to be exposed.

defiantbeast: Did you format the card on your computer or the phone itself? I ask because I had formatted mine on my computer and the phone wouldn't even read it until it had formatted it itself, so maybe you have a similar problem.
 
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fallenturtle,

I am a fan of the case. It seems to be made from microfiber, so it doubles as a screen cleaner--and it does a good job, too. The headphones are wired earbuds, and each earbud's wire meets at a button/microphone before it leads to the 3.5 mm headphone jack. They sound surprisingly good, with clear response in all registers--of course, with slightly underpowered bass support. Unfortunately, they are uncomfortable for my ears, so I do not use them.

Case/Pouch: Good, also cleans screen
Earbuds: Wired, with handsfree button/microphone built in, good sound quality, but uncomfortable

Murf
Have you noticed that the headsets seem to be custom somehow? I noticed that when I plugged them into a ipod touch the button didnt work, but when id plug my old BB headset into the touch it would work. Same thing for using the samsung one in the ipod, it wouldn't work and the BB wouldn't work in the Behold 2. I thought headsets with a button where standardized somehow . . .
 
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I have been using the HTC Hero's keyboard on this thing and I love it(came from a Hero)

If you want to give it a shot, I uploaded to my box account

HTC_IME.apk - File Shared from Box.net - Free Online File Storage
Id also like to thank you chaoscentral for posting the keyboard. Id really like TouchPal to come out, but this is good enough for the time being. It's a total improvement from the Samsung keyboard, it reminds me too much of the Feature Phones, where the Hero keyboard seems very built for Android ^^'.
 
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