Has the DROID lost its Charm?

RandolphNY · Sep 2, 2010

Is Motorola / Verizon / Google listening?

When I first received my DROID in February, I purchased it over the I phone, because it had appeal and Android provided excitement.

I am beginning to become very disappointed.
- the excitement of updates and the time to receive them. (I don't care about rooting, so please don't start.)
- What the DROID can do, versus what it is doing.
- Speed, ever since the 2.2 update, I have seen such drag. Even after moving apps onto the memory card.
- Battery / Heat issues
- Android Market is not organized well.
- Apps that work sometimes.
- Flash and Live TV

This is just a few issues, but I am beginning to wonder........

skunkpbguy · Sep 2, 2010

Being at the cutting edge is always exciting, just ask the Apple boys how it felt in the 80s..

loomer · Sep 2, 2010

Even though you have posted it in your post, I am going to forge ahead anyhow and mention rooting. When you say you are not interested in rooting, why is that? The DROID platform was absolutely made for rooting, and customization. And most of the time, the custom ROMs that you load into your phone after rooting improves the functionality that you are down on. You are asking a question, but when given the answer that is staring at you right in the face, you say "please don't start"?

DROID should really start advertising "this device is not for the fragile, inside the box thinkers, or faint of heart".

jxker · Sep 2, 2010

I yet have to find a better phone (I am rooted) and I am looking all the time...what the droid has lost may be it's novelty because it has been out for awhile

gkny172 · Sep 2, 2010

loomer said:
Even though you have posted it in your post, I am going to forge ahead anyhow and mention rooting. When you say you are not interested in rooting, why is that? The DROID platform was absolutely made for rooting, and customization. And most of the time, the custom ROMs that you load into your phone after rooting improves the functionality that you are down on. You are asking a question, but when given the answer that is staring at you right in the face, you say "please don't start"?

DROID should really start advertising "this device is not for the fragile, inside the box thinkers, or faint of heart".

Its marketed to the masses, not just the tech guys. Also, it was not solely created for rooting, if it were then rooting wouldn't void your warranty.

meekrab · Sep 2, 2010

You complain about unused potential, speed, battery issues, and flash, but you won't consider rooting. Why not give it a shot? You are choosing not to use the phone to its full potential.

With the Droid 2 out already, VZW/Motorola have no incentive to improve on these issues. You need to actively remedy these problems yourself.

gnath9 · Sep 2, 2010

I think they should not have gave Froyo to the original underclocked Droid. They bumped it to 600mhz ..... big deal ... with that being said, Froyo rocks on the rooted Droid !!! It is absolutely amazing how fast my phone runs and all it can do. I am very very pleased with my custom rom (lithium) and jdlfg 1.2ghz kernel.

I would not like to have to run my phone at 600mhz and put up with all that lag

x026092 · Sep 2, 2010

Please remember, not so long ago, we needed to buy a new devise to get a new OS. It is easy to forget how things have changed. We have alot at our fingertips now and this is only version one. I think the provider needs to get up to speed & provide better tested OS updates & support. We are still on the cutting edge. OBTW, we still have the ability to root if we really want to.

bikemonkeys · Sep 2, 2010

meekrab said:
You complain about unused potential, speed, battery issues, and flash, but you won't consider rooting. Why not give it a shot? You are choosing not to use the phone to its full potential.

With the Droid 2 out already, VZW/Motorola have no incentive to improve on these issues. You need to actively remedy these problems yourself.

We shouldn't have to root the phone to get the features it was supposed to have. Wasn't it supposed to be FLASH ready back in November?

RandolphNY · Sep 2, 2010

meekrab said:
You complain about unused potential, speed, battery issues, and flash, but you won't consider rooting. Why not give it a shot? You are choosing not to use the phone to its full potential.

With the Droid 2 out already, VZW/Motorola have no incentive to improve on these issues. You need to actively remedy these problems yourself.

I understand where all you rooters are coming from. I am not as techy, as I use to be and I don't feel that I am complaining as much as hoping the companies themselves hear us.

If this is available by rooting, then it should also be available to the regular customer. Again, just thoughts and thanks for the insight. I do appreciate this forum.

Danielson2047 · Sep 2, 2010

Root, and all your problems will slip away like a fart in the wind.

xliderider · Sep 2, 2010

RandolphNY said:
- What the DROID can do, versus what it is doing.
- Speed, ever since the 2.2 update, I have seen such drag. Even after moving apps onto the memory card.
- Battery / Heat issues
- Android Market is not organized well.
- Apps that work sometimes.
- Flash and Live TV

This is just a few issues, but I am beginning to wonder........

Have you done a Factory Reset after installing the update? 3 of your issues listed might be solved by the Factory Reset (Speed, Battery/Heat, Apps).

gnath9 · Sep 2, 2010

RandolphNY said:
I understand where all you rooters are coming from. I am not as techy, as I use to be and I don't feel that I am complaining as much as hoping the companies themselves hear us.

If this is available by rooting, then it should also be available to the regular customer. Again, just thoughts and thanks for the insight. I do appreciate this forum.

You are absolutely right !!! But, for some reason they just cant get it right. I too don't understand how the Dev community can take this device and make it rock & roll like they do thru roms and kernels while Moto & VZW can't.

I think most of the problems the stock users are having comes from two things.
First when going from a 2.1 rom to a 2.2 rom we rooters wipe data and cache because the Devs tell us to. So I think all the stock Droids should be doing a factory reset before installing the update. And its a pretty good Idea to do one now if you have any problems.
Second ... the new OS requires a little more power like when you upgrade you PC to a new OS you have to meet minimum requirements. Problem is that you would have to root to install a new kernel to clock the Droid where it should be. 900mhz on the Droid is not overclocking in my opinion.

Moto and VZW should know better than this !!! I agree but, its still better than most phones out there

Dysnomia · Sep 2, 2010

Yea, rooting also voids the warranty if it messes it up...and all of us don't have money to just buy a new phone at full price when ours breaks

RandolphNY · Sep 2, 2010

[QUOTE
First when going from a 2.1 rom to a 2.2 rom we rooters wipe data and cache because the Devs tell us to. So I think all the stock Droids should be doing a factory reset before installing the update. And its a pretty good Idea to do one now if you have any problems.

Moto and VZW should know better than this !!! I agree but, its still better than most phones out there

[/QUOTE]

I plan to do a factory reset later today. I will let you know the results.

Again....Thxs. :rolleyes:

rdsok · Sep 2, 2010

bikemonkeys said:
We shouldn't have to root the phone to get the features it was supposed to have. Wasn't it supposed to be FLASH ready back in November?

Actually what you are saying is that the phone should have the features YOU think it should have... the problem is that I think it should have a different set of features, the next person will also think it should have yet another set of features.... What the others have been trying to tell you about rooting is that it allows each user to select the features that may not already be included and actually customize it to your own needs...

So do you need to root... that depends on if you are happy with the feature set that Motorola/Verizon themselves had thought the phone needed or not.... If you aren't happy with that feature set, then don't throw out the only option you have to address those issues...

ricksievers · Sep 2, 2010

Ok, so should I do a factory reset now or wait for the second OTA. I have not gotton the second update yet. I am still on FRG01B. What do you guys think and suggest. thanks

fireshaper · Sep 2, 2010

bikemonkeys said:
We shouldn't have to root the phone to get the features it was supposed to have. Wasn't it supposed to be FLASH ready back in November?

This was not a Verizon/Motorola/Android issue, it was Adobe. Just saying....

gnath9 · Sep 2, 2010

ricksievers said:
Ok, so should I do a factory reset now or wait for the second OTA. I have not gotton the second update yet. I am still on FRG01B. What do you guys think and suggest. thanks

go a head and do it now ... then you wont need to on the next update

Thornfullessrose · Sep 2, 2010

danielson2047 said:
root, and all your problems will slip away like a fart in the wind.

lol xd!

gnath9 · Sep 2, 2010

Dysnomia said:
Yea, rooting also voids the warranty if it messes it up...and all of us don't have money to just buy a new phone at full price when ours breaks

If you do your homework and really take the time to learn this stuff. Rooting will not break your phone and you can always reset it back to factory condition if you need to send it back. Also if its messed up so bad that you can not set it back, they will never know. I have never heard of anyone being denied warranty because of rooting yet, but it is a possibility and a risk.

Rooting is not for everyone. You have to really like this stuff and enjoy tinkering with your device and take pride in learning all you can.

I am not telling anyone to root. It is you that must decide wich pill to take I can only offer you the truth.

slider5634 · Sep 2, 2010

gnath9 said:
If you do your homework and really take the time to learn this stuff. Rooting will not break your phone and you can always reset it back to factory condition if you need to send it back. Also if its messed up so bad that you can not set it back, they will never know. I have never heard of anyone being denied warranty because of rooting yet, but it is a possibility and a risk.

Rooting is not for everyone. You have to really like this stuff and enjoy tinkering with your device and take pride in learning all you can.

I am not telling anyone to root. It is you that must decide wich pill to take I can only offer you the truth.

Not to hijack, but I never did understand the idea behind voiding your warranty for rooting? That's being denied hardware warranty for making a software change. That would be like me telling a user that the hardware warranty was void on their PC just because they gained administrative access to Windows (assuming they didn't have it before). How ******ed.

Trapper31 · Sep 2, 2010

slider5634 said:
Not to hijack, but I never did understand the idea behind voiding your warranty for rooting? That's being denied hardware warranty for making a software change. That would be like me telling a user that the hardware warranty was void on their PC just because they gained administrative access to Windows (assuming they didn't have it before). How ******ed.

You can overclock when you are rooted, which can lead to overheating and possibly then a hardware failure. Plus there are numerous other ways that the software controls how the hardware behaves, and tweeks to these may be detrimental (theoretically). You can also tether when rooted, which Verizon wants you to pay extra for, which may or may not void their TOS.

I definitely see where you are coming from though.

Amrov · Sep 2, 2010

Maybe Verizon / Motorola haven't made rooting available for the regular customer, but the good people of this forum (and the Android community at large) definitely have. I'm a gadget freak, but I have never gone beyond specs before. I finally took the plunge a month ago and rooting was beyond easy using the guides in this forum. Takes maybe 5 minutes, and that includes reading the directions. Unrooting is also possible and easy. You don't have to go overboard with daily ROM changes (or even any ROM changes). You can add what you want, and the Android community is really standing by to help anyone who wants it. I'm just saying... think about it. The wifi hotspot alone is so worth it.

This wonderful open community and the creative, helpful, and skilled developers are reasons why Android has quickly caught up and overshot the iPhone.

twistedlim · Sep 2, 2010

jxker said:
I yet have to find a better phone (I am rooted) and I am looking all the time...what the droid has lost may be it's novelty because it has been out for awhile

+1

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