DO NOT DO THIS.
Whomever told you to do this above is wrong. These batteries don't like to be discharged all the way. It's better to have them charged all the time.
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Post Froyo OTA: Your Battery Life
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DO NOT DO THIS.
Whomever told you to do this above is wrong. These batteries don't like to be discharged all the way. It's better to have them charged all the time.
My battery life is really great since the update. It was horrible at first right after the OTA. I had no problems with lag after I got the OTA but the my only problem was that it was eating up my battery so I backed everything up and did a factory rest and now I have amazing battery life. Yesterday I used the phone all day with moderate use and was only at 63% at the end of the day with about 15 hours of up time.
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My up time and awake time are exactly the same, but I have NO idea what's keeping it awake.
2150mah battery
3h 23m 8s since unplugged - as well as up/awake time
61% battery left
Battery use
Android system 27%
Cell standby 22%
Wi-Fi 22%
Phone idle 17%
Display 10%
TV Listings 2%
Before Froyo, I'd get 24+ hours on one charge, at ~3-4 hours per 10% depending on use with screen brightness at max and a couple auto-syncs. I did a hard reset after I got the update yesterday afternoon. Now I'm about 3 1/2 hours per 40%. Brightness is still at max but I turned off all auto-syncs. No live wallpaper, but for the most part, completely black.
Granted, I probably have to do a couple full charge/discharge cycles, but this is ridiculous.
2150mah battery
3h 23m 8s since unplugged - as well as up/awake time
61% battery left
Battery use
Android system 27%
Cell standby 22%
Wi-Fi 22%
Phone idle 17%
Display 10%
TV Listings 2%
Before Froyo, I'd get 24+ hours on one charge, at ~3-4 hours per 10% depending on use with screen brightness at max and a couple auto-syncs. I did a hard reset after I got the update yesterday afternoon. Now I'm about 3 1/2 hours per 40%. Brightness is still at max but I turned off all auto-syncs. No live wallpaper, but for the most part, completely black.
Granted, I probably have to do a couple full charge/discharge cycles, but this is ridiculous.
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Half right.
Let me explain. First Li-Ion batteries ideal charge is at 40%, not 100%. So yes, being at 0% charge will degrade your battery faster than sitting at 40%....but so will sitting at 100%.
The effects of both though are extremely minimal. The only danger comes if you get down to 0% and continue to let the battery drain. The phone will turn itself off to prevent this, but if you leave it sitting for a couple months, or you sit and try to turn the phone on time after time it is possible to get the battery below a minimum voltage which makes it impossible using consumer methods to re-charge the battery.
The reason he was told to cycle the battery is this is the method of performing a full and proper battery calibration. It is actually best to perform approximately 1 full cycle every month or 2 to keep the indicator calibrated.
Yes, during the rest of the time it is best to keep the phone in a charge of roughly 10%-90%.
Also note: If you plan to get a new phone inside of 2 years, you can basically throw all of this out the window as it is too insignificant, as it is all damage in the long term, on the order more around 2-5 years.
I really do hate this bug. You will need to look at what apps you have running, and start uninstalling them 1 at a time and watch your up vs awake times. When they start to separate you have found your problem app.
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Mine lasted ~9 hours today with a little more usage than yesterday. This is actually starting to piss me off now. I'm uninstalling apps that I think could be the problem. Thinking of doing a factory reset, but then I would just end up reinstalling all of my apps and I would be back where I started, right?
My phone is being kept awake a little over an hour longer than the screen is on for. Anyone know a method of finding out which app that is? I'm uninstalling apps that I don't use or that I don't need. Here's my Appbrain list. Anyone know any apps I should look into getting rid of?
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My phone is being kept awake a little over an hour longer than the screen is on for. Anyone know a method of finding out which app that is? I'm uninstalling apps that I don't use or that I don't need. Here's my Appbrain list. Anyone know any apps I should look into getting rid of?
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As I said in an early post, I can't believe there wasn't a fix for the "bump charge" issue with 2.2. I was reading somewhere that the bug is related to how long the phone sits on the charger *after* it has reached 100%. I charge my phone every night (use it as a bedside clock), so it sits on the charger for 6-7 hours. I found that if I don't bump charge it, my battery level drops to ~90% in the first 20 minutes (as is well documented).
The theory I read is that when the phone charges to 100% and then continues to sit on the charger, the battery actually *loses* charge even though it is still plugged in. To test this, I just charged my 1/2 depleted battery to 100%, then pulled off the charger right away. It's been uplugged for 30 minutes now, and still sitting at 100%.
For my next test, I'm considering buying a timer for my wall charger that will turn on at 3am-ish, and thus hopefully complete the charge about the time I wake.
The theory I read is that when the phone charges to 100% and then continues to sit on the charger, the battery actually *loses* charge even though it is still plugged in. To test this, I just charged my 1/2 depleted battery to 100%, then pulled off the charger right away. It's been uplugged for 30 minutes now, and still sitting at 100%.
For my next test, I'm considering buying a timer for my wall charger that will turn on at 3am-ish, and thus hopefully complete the charge about the time I wake.
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Battery: 2150 mAH
Got my update at 3am, applied it. Took the phone off at 6am, went to work, and I'm gonna be honest, I played with the phone all day (except when I had to give a presentation lol). So 10 hours later, I'm at 63%. I had WiFi on, was using flash websites, tested out 720p video, camera, played Angry Birds, etc.
Got my update at 3am, applied it. Took the phone off at 6am, went to work, and I'm gonna be honest, I played with the phone all day (except when I had to give a presentation lol). So 10 hours later, I'm at 63%. I had WiFi on, was using flash websites, tested out 720p video, camera, played Angry Birds, etc.
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I don't know most of those apps, but my initial hunches would be:
Sleep Timer or Lookout Antivirus. By their nature, both of these would typically be running longer than other apps. ( Sleep timer needs to stay on for a considerable amount of time sort of watching your music player to turn it off. I can see it getting stuck like that for awhile perhaps. Then who knows what all could be going on with the antivirus. )
Not sure if you have either of those running normally, but both could cause issues in theory alone. ( Personally, I REALLY hate anti-virus programs. Most are 100x worse than viruses <heres lookin at you Norton>. I only ever use any anti-virus/malware to clear out issues. They are never permitted to run on their own, background services included. )
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still getting HORRIBLE battery life. barely used the phone at all today. total time unplugged 4 hours 18 minutes....dead
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Wow, that's gotta be a record. Can you give any of the battery information, because something is very seriously wrong unless you were really really trying hard to kill it.
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I don't get why they couldn't make it so when your phone reaches 100%, it would automatically start using AC.
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? I don't quite understand what you are asking for. I see no specific problem with the methods they use for charging. If you mean powering the phone without the battery/bypassing the battery, this would require in excess of the 500ma that USB and many car chargers use: Meaning a lot of them would not work with the INC at all. This is a better alternative considering.
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I'm saying when we charge our phone while its on, other would get to 100% then stop, and start using the battery. That's why it would drop so much when you unplug in the morning.
If hey set it to use AC after it gets to 100%, instead of using the battery.
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Ok I'll get rid of sleeptimer because I rarely use It anyway. Lookout I'll try going withoit.for a few days. I like It because It bwcks stuff up at night and i can track my phone on their website. Thanks for all your help I appreciate it.
Oh I forgot do you think a factory reset would fix my issues? Other people have had good results after doing thst...
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like i said i was barely using it. did homework in the morning. listened to pandora for maybe 20 minutes on the way to school. used the internet to get a phone number, made a phone call. then it sat in my pocket the rest of the time.
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Installed Vlingo and it runs all the time so you can use voice commands. OMG its a battery hog!! I may just get rid of it!
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Well, as I mention the problem here is you would have to require a minimum amount of power so that if either the power takes a momentary dive ( common on car chargers ) or if the user tries to use the phone and the power draw exceeds the input ( Which we know the Inc can easily do in many situations. I've personally killed my battery while plugged into USB before. ), then the phone would crash out which is problematic, because it is not using the battery as a power buffer. At current, the power is drawn out of the battery, while the charger charges the battery. Naturally, you can't leave the charger on all the time or you will over charge the battery. So, the best overall method is current until we update the various power sources ( Increase max. ma of USB, and car power sources become more standardized )
Yes, I think a factory reset is likely to help...but not for certain. I've heard before of people reinstalling the problem app and having it all start over. Without knowing the exact cause of the misbehaving apps, it's hard to say what is going on there.
Honestly though, if you can handle a wipe I'd recommend it because it will also help prevent future problems.
Also remember: The more you restore from any backups you make, the more likely you are of restoring a problem. I personally only actually restored my contacts: I reinstalled the rest such as apps by hand, etc.
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I, also, will get 2-3 days with light to medium usage with 2.1.
This is for comparison only as I have NOT upgraded to 2.2 yet. I have the OTA, just haven't installed it and frankly, am almost afraid to. I have the original stock battery and have always been completely satisfied with battery life even when I am using the phone more than what it shows today. I do use ATK manually and do not let it run.
Up time - 10 hours
Awake time - 1:32
Battery - 80%
Cell standby - 30%
Phone idle - 25%
Android System - 16%
Wi-Fi - 13%
Display - 5%
Bluetooth - 5%
Camera - 3%
Voice calls - 3%
For what it's worth, I realize we may be comparing apples to oranges here but the differences are still intriguing.
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Charges sooooo ssssssssssssslllllllllllllllllooooooooowwwwwwwww now.
This is a serious issue for me.
This is a serious issue for me.
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Can't help you without more info I'm afraid. Battery info, usage, up/awake times, etc. along with how you actually use it, and if you can a list of apps.
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I have noticed definite improvement, but not huge. I never had trouble getting through a day on a full charge, even with heavy use, but I can say I probably have 10%-15% more battery at the end of the day than I used too before FroYo.
I think the problem with people reporting lower battery life is they might just be using their phone more. FroYo is barely out for us yet, and those that have it are probably using the crap out of their apps to pick up on speed differences, etc.
I think the problem with people reporting lower battery life is they might just be using their phone more. FroYo is barely out for us yet, and those that have it are probably using the crap out of their apps to pick up on speed differences, etc.
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Just had an idea. Can people that have Android System using a lot of power ( such as tfc3rid ), get System Panel Lite, open it up and press Menu->Settings and make sure both "System processes" and "App CPU monitors" are checked. Then go back to the main System Panel screen. Scroll down to the system processes section, and see if anything in there is using a lot of CPU ( the bar on the left side. ). It's normal to see System use a little bit, and Dialer to use a tiny bit. Everything else should be essentially 0.
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Got Froyo at about 6AM. Unplugged after that point. Normal usage, some internet, some texting, a call or two. No movies or music listening. I'm at 57% here at 7:45 PM Central.
Not bad so far.
Not bad so far.
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