Post Froyo OTA: Your Battery Life

Ran battery to 48% in about 2 hours of use, listening to podcasts and net browsing mostly. The real problem is how slow the charge is now. Used to be abke to spot charge throughout the day since the phone would charge quickly. But now we have phones that drain quickly and charge slowly. Bad combination.

zemerick said:

I really do hate this bug. You will need to look at what apps you have running, and start uninstalling them 1 at a time and watch your up vs awake times. When they start to separate you have found your problem app.

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This really is annoying. I've uninstalled a handful of apps already but my up/awake times are still the same. It's now charging after 9 hours.

Here's my list of apps before I started uninstalling:
tabatchoy's Apps on the HTC Droid Incredible

I've since uninstalled:
The Weather Channel
Compass
PingChat!
TiKL
Alarm Clock PlusV2
FastestDroid
Tajm
aCar
BatteryLeft Widget
Paypal
Battery Indicator
Mini Info

FlashPlayer and Amazon MP3 are part of Froyo and cannot be uninstalled. Any idea of what else could be the target?

zemerick said:

Just had an idea. Can people that have Android System using a lot of power ( such as tfc3rid ), get System Panel Lite, open it up and press Menu->Settings and make sure both "System processes" and "App CPU monitors" are checked. Then go back to the main System Panel screen. Scroll down to the system processes section, and see if anything in there is using a lot of CPU ( the bar on the left side. ). It's normal to see System use a little bit, and Dialer to use a tiny bit. Everything else should be essentially 0.

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System shows a little bit, everything else shows nothing.

Thanks for trying to help everyone out. But here's the thing, and what I believe other posters with the same complaint are experiencing: my battery does not appear to be draining any faster than before, it is merely charging much much slower. I read your other posts, and I will give it a few days to see if it is draining more quickly as well and will monitor my apps, and hopefully it just needs to recalibrate. But previously, I could use navigation while streaming music with the phone plugged in and it would still fully charge in under two hours. Now, my phone has been plugged in for over three hours, doing nothing more than occasional texting, and it has gone from 30% to 65%.

Since 2.2. I noticed that after I charge the phone while its on, then turn it off, then continue charging, it shows green MUCH faster than before updating. Like five minutes fast. Leads me to believe the issue is fixed with battery not charging.

ORRY? said:

This really is annoying. I've uninstalled a handful of apps already but my up/awake times are still the same. It's now charging after 9 hours.

Here's my list of apps before I started uninstalling:
tabatchoy's Apps on the HTC Droid Incredible

I've since uninstalled:
The Weather Channel
Compass
PingChat!
TiKL
Alarm Clock PlusV2
FastestDroid
Tajm
aCar
BatteryLeft Widget
Paypal
Battery Indicator
Mini Info

FlashPlayer and Amazon MP3 are part of Froyo and cannot be uninstalled. Any idea of what else could be the target?

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Nothing in there particularly jumped out at me that I saw...but who knows. From what I've seen, while there are certain apps more likely to cause it, any app does seem able to.

Try this: Using something like astro, system panel, or checking in your applications section or however you prefer: Note down all of the apps currently running and uninstall all of those, then check it and go from there.

That particular issue is part of Li-Ion battery technology. Most likely for various reason your phone was probably drawing less power while charging than it had been before.

Thought is throw in my 2 cents, on my second full day with the OTA. I've done everything by the books as Verizon would want me to. My battery life seems to have improved a bit since installing Froyo. I have the 1500 battery from bidallies or whatever and after unplugging around 945am I am currently at 30% at 930pm. That is with moderate use throughout the day including some txt messages, pictures, web surfing and phone calls using WiFi while at home and 3G while out and about. I will agree that it takes significantly longer to charge than it used to, but I still get a full charge overnight, so I'm not too concerned about it...

It's been two days since I installed Froyo (9/1 @ 6:15am) and one diay since I performed a factory reset (9/2 @ 11:00am). I've let my battery drain down twice (after factory reset) until my HTC Droid Incredible shuts off. I've performed the bump charge both times. Here are my results as of today. Prior to the factory reset, battery life was horsecrap!!! Much worse than when I was running 2.1. Here are my latest stats.

10h 18m 13s since unplugged

Up Time: 10:20:35
Awake Time: 1:29: 10
Battery Remaining: 57%

Cell Standby - 36%
Phone Idle - 33%
Android System - 16%
*cpu total 7m 41s
*cpu foreground 54s
*data sent 82.62kb
*data received 100.31kb

*BrcmBluetoothServices (not using bluetooth)
*Settings Storage
*Rosie Utility (not sure what this would be)
*Settings
*Upgrade Setup (not sure what this would be)
*com.android.qxdmlog
*HTC Widget Download Manager
*Android System
*VPN Services
*HTC Checkin Service
*Network Location
*Accounts & Sync
*Setup
Voice Calls - 6%
Display - 5%
Wi-Fi - 2%
Dialer - 2%

Not sure what to think as of yet. Good battery life?? Average battery life?? Horrible battery life?? I have not idea what most of the ITALICS items do under Android System. Maybe some of those are causing battery life to be horrible. Anyone have any ideas / explanations as to what some of the items are under Android System??

It's been two days since I've installed Froyo, and one day since I did a factory reset.

ORRY? said:

This really is annoying. I've uninstalled a handful of apps already but my up/awake times are still the same. It's now charging after 9 hours.

Here's my list of apps before I started uninstalling:
tabatchoy's Apps on the HTC Droid Incredible

I've since uninstalled:
The Weather Channel
Compass
PingChat!
TiKL
Alarm Clock PlusV2
FastestDroid
Tajm
aCar
BatteryLeft Widget
Paypal
Battery Indicator
Mini Info

FlashPlayer and Amazon MP3 are part of Froyo and cannot be uninstalled. Any idea of what else could be the target?

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Is your phone able to connect to wifi...because after the update my phone was not able to connect to wifi and was constantly trying to connect keeping both my up and awake times the same, thus draining my battery. I was able to manually configure the wireless settings on the phone so that it would connect, and it solved my problem.

Same applies to you BiggShooter

Hopefully this helps.

DrunkDroid said:

Is your phone able to connect to wifi...because after the update my phone was not able to connect to wifi and was constantly trying to connect keeping both my up and awake times the same, thus draining my battery. I was able to manually configure the wireless settings on the phone so that it would connect, and it solved my problem.

Same applies to you BiggShooter

Hopefully this helps.

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Yep..I can connect to Wi-Fi without any problems...not an issue on my phone. Thanks for the suggestions though

Turn off the extra sync feeds. I found News, Stock Market and Google Contacts sync turned on after 2.2 when before they were not there.

Plugged it in to charge 21 hours later. Still had around 40% charge. Been texting, searched the market downloaded a bunch of apps, watched youtube, let my son play Ninjas Live ( that was like trying to pry it out of his cold dying fingers LOL!), Talked on it, set up appbrain account and messed with that LOTS! I think it really got better. Like having a custom kernel that's under volted.

ps. I also aways have my wifi on when I'm at home so 98% of the time my wifi was going. 3g data streamed the other 2% of the time because of Ninjas Live!

Dandapani said:

Turn off the extra sync feeds. I found News, Stock Market and Google Contacts sync turned on after 2.2 when before they were not there.

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Already did this...but thanks though

DrunkDroid said:

Is your phone able to connect to wifi...because after the update my phone was not able to connect to wifi and was constantly trying to connect keeping both my up and awake times the same, thus draining my battery. I was able to manually configure the wireless settings on the phone so that it would connect, and it solved my problem.

Same applies to you BiggShooter

Hopefully this helps.

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OMG. : DOUBLEFACEPALM: That broke apart my up/awake times. I owe you a round of drinks, good sir!

last night I jad 12 houra of uptime and 6.6 hours of wake and was at 44 percent when I charged it.

I've had the OTA Froyo for 2 days and noticed now it takes alot longer to charge the battery. That is a bummer. I have noticed battery life is about the same for me as before, it might be a tad better. I'm still using stock battery. I get about a full day sometimes day and 1/2 before I'm down to 1 yellow bar. I'm hoping the battery will get better with more charges on the new 2.2 Froyo.

sail4fun201 said:

Alright I'll point out the ones that are close to or over a minute:
Internet 50s
Messaging Widgets 52s
android.process.acore: 5m 7s
Dialer 2m 53s
Sense 3m 49s
System 11m 17s

All the Vlingo things appear to be 0 seconds.

I had to recharge Mid-day today, here's my stats since the recharge:
Unplugged: 5:25pm with 55% charge (4h 34m since unplugged)
Now: 12% charge

Uptime: 5h 23m (rebooted then plugged it in)
Awake: 1h 41m
Display: 50m27s

Battery usage:
Android System 30%
Cell STandby 29%
Phone Idle 24%
Display 8%
Dialer 4%
Voice calls 3%
Internet 2%

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Ok, I'm sure you don't want to hear this...but those numbers just don't add up with normal.

If you take the awake time by itself vs. the charge lost and your usage it would add up fine. ( Meaning you lost around 43 percent after 1h 41m of medium+ usage. ) However, this would only add up if you had about double the uptime ( around 9 to 10 hours. ) which means that the cell standby and phone idle would have used significantly more power in that time. ( Typically a medium user with a few phone calls and internet, + text etc. that uses their phone enough for Android to be higher than the Cell and Phone idle, should expect around 18 hours up time and 5 hours awake time on 2.1, though on 2.2 I would expect a little better. )

Can you charge your battery up to full, then go to your dialer and enter: *#*#4636#*#* then go to battery information and let me know what your voltage is. Run the battery down to around 10 percent and check the voltage again.

The only thing that I can think of off hand that could cause things to not add up based off the numbers so far: Is your battery isn't getting a full charge. I don't suppose you have a second battery around do you?

ONJFan said:

I've had the OTA Froyo for 2 days and noticed now it takes alot longer to charge the battery. That is a bummer. I have noticed battery life is about the same for me as before, it might be a tad better. I'm still using stock battery. I get about a full day sometimes day and 1/2 before I'm down to 1 yellow bar. I'm hoping the battery will get better with more charges on the new 2.2 Froyo.

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How long is "a lot" longer? It is supposed to take 4-5 hours. NOTE: 2.1 was bugged and speed charging the battery, this was causing excessive heat and could potentially damage the battery and other parts of the phone. This has been confirmed by HTC.

ORRY? said:

OMG. : DOUBLEFACEPALM: That broke apart my up/awake times. I owe you a round of drinks, good sir!

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LMAO...I'm glad it worked out for you.

This is my first post, and I thought I'd contribute my two cents.

I received the OTA update Thursday morning and got pretty poor battery life the rest of the day but attributed it to the fact that I downloaded a ~100mb file over 3g that morning. My phone charged to full overnight and I unplugged it from the wall at about 7:45am. By about 8:15 I noticed it was already down to ~90%, by noon it was down to ~40%, and it was dead by about 2 or 3pm. I only used it very lightly and saw that the ratio of "cell standby" to "android system" was about equal and the "up time" and "awake time" were nearly equal. This seemed extremely abnormal and indicated to me that something was keeping the phone awake. Normally I will go a full ~16hrs until I need to charge, but this was obviously far shorter. I began to search the forums here for some suggestions, and decided to start looking for potential problem apps before bothering with a hard reset. I started by looking at the running applications, then at the running services, and saw that one app, Aloqa (sort of like Yelp on crack), was active even though I wasn't using it. I uninstalled it, then checked my accounts&sync settings to make sure sync times didn't look overly abnormal. I since charged my battery to full (oddly enough this went WAY faster than usual - ~2.5hrs), and after about 5 hours of being unplugged with moderate use, I'm still over 60%.

My feeling is that if an app that has the ability to update/sync in the background but isn't fully compatible for whatever reason with 2.2, it will do so aberrantly, and keep your phone in an "awake" state and absolutely drain your battery. As other users have recommended, I'd just step through and see if there are any potentially problematic apps like I found and uninstall them until your battery life improves.

Here's to hoping tomorrow is a more battery-friendly day

Running a1750 battery. Battery life was decent before OTA, now it is terrible. Will try full discharge, but may have to do a full wipe, then might as well root.

Ok. Since I didn't get a response to my post, I decided to contact VZW. The CSR had me do a FULL factory reset. When I got my OTA, I did the first option. I did notice that a few things I had on my phone did not get touched. This time, it all got wiped (just a few movies). I reactivated my phone, and did the initial setup.

Everything seemed to work ok. I set everything back up and proceeded to play with my phone to kill the battery. I then let it do a full charge over night. I took my phone off the charger at 6:30 this morning. Throughout the day, I sent about 20 texts, talked for about 45 minutes, surfed the web for about an hour, listened to Pandora for about 30 minutes, checked my gmail and played some solitaire. The phone finally died at 5:28 this evening. That's enough to impress me. Before, my phone would have been dead in about 4 hours.

BTW, I have the stock battery. Also, I personally noticed an improvement in the clarity of the phone calls. The people on the other end weren't nearly as garbled. As a matter of fact, I didn't ask them to repeat themselves even once! I hope this helps.

dibs ODDJOB said:

Running a1750 battery. Battery life was decent before OTA, now it is terrible. Will try full discharge, but may have to do a full wipe, then might as well root.

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Before wiping, try out running in safe mode. This will essentially disable all apps you have, so if any of them are bugged out for some reason and draining your battery, then you should get normal battery life in safe mode.

Enable / disable safe mode - HTC DROID Incredible ADR6300

( Basically just restart phone, and when the second HTC logo comes up, the one that says "HTC Quietly brilliant", press and hold: Menu, Volume Down, and the optical joystick button. To get out, just restart the phone again. )

This isn't a solution itself, just to test if it is a problem app, which means you could avoid wiping your phone if we can find the app.

Same deal. Longer charge times, worse battery life due to tons of open apps and I notice after even mild use the phone heats up much more than with 2.1. ATK is now useless as well as apps just open up again right after you close them (please don't flame me about task killers...I know the arguments for/against and I know for me ATK worked well...on 2.1). I'm going to try a full discharge this weekend and see if that helps...not really very hopeful, to be honest. Guess this is all the inevitable trade-off of increased capability on the phone. I'm using a third-party 1600 mAh batt, BTW.