The Two Things That Would Make Me Buy the Next iPhone

Loremonger · Aug 19, 2010

In all of the discussion and pondering over the Captivate vs. the iPhone, I must say that I might actually go back to Apple's flagship IF:

1. ...the next iPhone used an OLED screen. During the keynote, Jobs said that Apple didn't feel like the technology was ready for the cell phone market. I, of course, disagree. Sometimes I find myself picking up Sally just to look at the beautiful, oversaturated screen. Of course, I'm not sure I could go back to Apple's smaller format, but a combo between their new super-high-resolution screen and OLED technology would be an easy win.

2. ...the guys developing iDroid could get a stable, user-friendly install of Android on iDevices. (I actually have Android installed on my iPhone 3G, but I'm having fits trying to get openiBoot installed, so I can't get it to work.) Anyway, I have to admit that Apple makes beautiful hardware. In my fiddling with the iPhone 4, I've found it quite pleasant to hold and look at. It sucks that you can't get to the battery easily, but neither can dust, moisture, etc. But I couldn't give up Android. If there is one thing I hate about the iPhone, it's iOS. I always hack the hell out of my devices, and just the fact that Apple tries to maintain a walled garden doesn't sit well with me.

So imagine with me if you will, a next generation iPhone, [4.0"] OLED screen, running Android 3. I could go for that. (Of course, all of the android devices on the market by that time might easily outshine it)

ranova · Aug 19, 2010

I will switch back to iOS/iPhone when they:
1. Integrate Google Voice into the phone (main thing for me)
2. Integrate social networks into your contact list
3. Allow different keyboards (SWYPE!)
4. Widgets on the home screens
5. Release AT LEAST a 4" iPhone
6. Google Navigation
7. Lockscreen information
8. Better notification system

So unless Apple pulls some "magic," I highly doubt I will be back for the iPhone 5

Regalicious · Aug 19, 2010

I'll buy the iPhone 5 if it's on LTE. I'd also prefer a 4" screen but I don't think Apple's ever going to do it, because it means either increasing the resolution again (and making devs redo their apps a third/fourth time for native res) or losing the pixel density of the current Retina Display.

I like Android and have heavily modified my Captivate but I also like iOS (with no hacks/mods) and would have gotten the iPhone 4 were it cheaper no-contract.

Things that I'll miss from Android:
- Swype
- Gchat (this might keep me stuck to Android for a while ... seriously the best thing ever and the multi-platform chat clients on iOS unfortunately don't do it as well

)
- Notifications bar
- Widgets (but not as much as the other ones)
- Google Nav and better Maps
- Integrated voice functions

sremick · Aug 19, 2010

No memory card, non-removable battery and the insane OS restrictions and lockdown are deal breakers for me. I can't see Apple ever changing any of those, since they specifically leverage them to increase profits.

Jack45 · Aug 19, 2010

Besides iPhone-specific issues that currently bug me, I'd consider it only if Jobs' condescending attitude and reverence for replying to real world problems with unbridled deflection disappeared. I don't see that happening.

There are those that have said "focus on the phone, not the CEO." Sorry - it's the principle. As for other CEOs and their various flavors of transgressions, they haven't been disrespectful to their customers and the working press.

Is he brilliant? Yes.

Is he wise? No.

sremick · Aug 19, 2010

Maybe if Jobs stepped down and Woz took his place...

Endoran · Aug 19, 2010

Besides all that was mentioned here (which I doubt will all happen). I won't buy another iPhone until it stops being the trendy status symbol that it is. I didn't like seeing the phone that ran my life in the hands of sooo many spoiled brats. I'm one of those 20-something peoples who already think there is something very wrong with the next generation. I'm a hybrid, I like technology that works well and love having the newest gadgets, but I also like genuine down to earth people which a lot of iPhone users are decidedly not. I know it's an insanely small sample size to draw such conclusions from but it's my little world I live in and those are my judgments about it. I also know that not using something JUST because it's trendy is kind of ridiculous but eh that's how I've always been.

jrdoll28 · Aug 19, 2010

Is he brilliant? Yes.

Is he wise? No.[/QUOTE]

I think you have it backwards. Jobs knows how to manipulate the market and use creative marketing schemes, making everyone believe apple is the greatest thing and thus buy his products. That is wise of him.

On the other hand, most apple junkies and less tech savvy people look up to him as our savior, which he's really not. Nothing he has done is brilliant or revolutionary.

Jack45 · Aug 19, 2010

jrdoll28 said:
I think you have it backwards. Jobs knows how to manipulate the market and use creative marketing schemes, making everyone believe apple is the greatest thing and thus buy his products. That is wise of him.

On the other hand, most apple junkies and less tech savvy people look up to him as our savior, which he's really not. Nothing he has done is brilliant or revolutionary.

Call me old-fashioned, but I don't equate being manipulative with wisdom. One definition cites wisdom as "comprehension of what is true or right coupled with optimum judgment as to action." Fanboys and fangirls when used in a derogatory sense - as is often the case - are viewed as victims of his personal brand of Kool-Aid (read: reality distortion field) and are not to be admired as independent thinkers but rather sheeple.

His product definitions since his return to Apple in 1997 (iMac, iPod, iPhone, iPad, etc.) have been nothing short of brilliant. Credit where credit is due.

BigCiX · Aug 19, 2010

it's gotta have:

- 4 inch screen or bigger
- allow widgets and customization of the interface
- sideloading apps (which will never happen)
- google maps
- live wallpapers

so most likely i'll be sticking with the next captivate if samsung puts it out.

enjoimark · Aug 19, 2010

You guys keep naming features that make Android, ANDROID. Apple WILL NOT put Android on their products, that defeats the whole purpose. iPhone=iOS.

You know what will make me go back to iPhone? Open platform iOS system. Open iOS up, it's powerful, it can compete with Android if Jobs would let it. Apple wants things their way, and does not give a damn how you want. They can get away with this because people WILL BUY IT.

All Apple has to do is throw a plain white commercial out with the product, throw in some black lettereing, and BAM, people buy their stuff. Android doesn't advertise... why not?

Android_J · Aug 19, 2010

I wish Android is as polished as iOS. I wish iOS is as open as Android. If Palm and/or Microsoft were smart, they'd fill in the gap.

Eazail70x7 · Aug 19, 2010

Loremonger said:
(I actually have Android installed on my iPhone 3G, but I'm having fits trying to get openiBoot installed, so I can't get it to work.)

I have the same exact issue on my iphone 2g...it sucks. I tryed the new R13 1shot and still no luck.

I had openiboot on at one point and like a dummy I uninstalled it (long stor), so here I am stuck with android files on my phone with no openiboot to get to android os :mad:

They keep suggesting that I manually install openiboot but it just seems to confusing for me when I read the wiki...

TDQuiksilver · Aug 19, 2010

If only we were on an Apple forum.

Oh wait....

We're on an Android forum.

skinien · Aug 19, 2010

ranova said:
I will switch back to iOS/iPhone when they:
1. Integrate Google Voice into the phone (main thing for me)
2. Integrate social networks into your contact list
3. Allow different keyboards (SWYPE!)
4. Widgets on the home screens
5. Release AT LEAST a 4" iPhone
6. Google Navigation
7. Lockscreen information
8. Better notification system

So unless Apple pulls some "magic," I highly doubt I will be back for the iPhone 5

Nice list!!!... to add to that:

9. Has better gmail "conversation" support
10. Plays more media formats
11. Allows access to the file system
12. Can delete music on the fly (without iTunes)
13. More notification customization (tones) without jailbreaking
14. Facetime isn't restricted to iphone <-> iphone and wifi
15. Can sync my contacts, email, and calendars as quickly and efficiently as Android (Activsync on iPhone isn't nearly as good as whatever protocol is being used on my Captivate. If it is the same protocol, it's being implemented much better here.).

Wakefield · Aug 19, 2010

I feel like I own an iphone because every other thread on this supposed android forum is about the iphone. Enough!

skinien · Aug 19, 2010

Wakefield said:
I feel like I own an iphone because every other thread on this supposed android forum is about the iphone. Enough!

Sorry boss. Some of us are excited to leave the uPhone world. It's cool joining a community that sees the "truth".

mesasone · Aug 20, 2010

I can't see myself going back to the iPhone unless Apple releases both some killer hardware (powerful with amazing battery life) and great, less restrictive, software. I have nothing against Apple or the iPhone, but Android "feels" like what a smartphone/"super phone" operating system should be.

Plus, I love to tinker and the Android OS and community is great in providing modifications and enhancements for me to fool around with.

snapper.fishes · Aug 20, 2010

I will get an iPhone when they don't cost the same as my 14" laptop with a Core 2 CPU and a HD 4670 GPU. And oh, 500 GB HDD and 4 GB RAM.

iDroidUser · Sep 6, 2010

Loremonger said:
I actually have Android installed on my iPhone 3G, but I'm having fits trying to get openiBoot installed, so I can't get it to work.

I followed the openiBoot installation instructions on this URL (Installing iDroid (Linux) - iDroidWiki) and installed it almost without any issues. The only issue I ran into was that I could not update my then Ubuntu Linux to the required libraries due to version incompatibility -- I was running Hardy Heron. I upgraded to Ubuntu Lucid Lynx (which I had to do anyway, as Hardy would be unsupported soon), and openIBoot installation was smooth.

yahoowizard · Sep 6, 2010

You guys...basically want an iPhone that looks, acts, and has the same software as the Captivate. If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck...

ComradeQuestion · Sep 6, 2010

the only reason id go to an idevice for a phone is if they do an entire new os i will be buying one of the brand new 64gb ipod touches for me and the wife in a few weeks i use the ipod for videos. so to me my perfect balance is an android phone and ipod touch for music and videos on the road. i keep my essential music on my captivate as well.

Sharkonwheels · Sep 6, 2010

The only way I'd buy the next iPhone, is if EVERY other manufacturer went out of business, and it was either the iPhone, or two cans and a string...

Even then, I might decide to be unreachable...

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