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Another blow - no Google Goggles for us. 2.0 or die!

Do you agree that HTC should have already published the 2.0 update?


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If you are in the software business, as you state, then you would know that the Sense UI was written to work on top of, and was tested solely with Android 1.5.
It will now have to be applied to and thoroughly tested with Android 2.1 and updated to use 2.1's new features. As I'm sure you're aware, being a long standing part of a software business, this cannot happen overnight.
Can you imagine the storm of bad publicity HTC would come under if they just slapped Sense onto 2.1 and released it with no testing and it worked poorly or not at all?
Use some of your self stated vast experience in the software industry and apply some common sense to it!:p

Well, kingvortex, nice to see you lifting your head. I can sense the contempt In your reply, but that's ok, it is probably there because you know nothing about software development.

Well, if you grow up and want to be a software engineer, here is the first lesson for you.

Lesson number 1:
A success software project is always measured by budget and schedule.
Always work by a defined schedule, and let your customers know your roadmap and planned features.
 
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If you're that bothered, vote with your feet and get another phone.

I, too, am a well-documented whinger when it comes to this update. However, my gripe is slightly different to yours. I KNOW it's not an overnight process, I just wish they'd hurry up! "Work faster/harder" is my shout.

I agree that I'd like the update as soon as possible - and I also think it's a little naive to think it won't be buggy when it arrives in any case BUT, you don't need to let it affect your blood pressure quite so much. Don't be such a keyboard warrior.

That's exactly the point! but as soon as you write anything against HTC here, an army of followers who kiss their feet just because they gave HTC Hero to us, will start accusing you in treachery.

Let me tell you this, if it had been so important for HTC to release an update, we would have already have it in our hands. And bug free (as much as possible, since it will never be bug free).

It's all a matter of priorities. People here fail to understand that. They are too busy thanking the HTC god for making a phone.
 
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That's exactly the point! but as soon as you write anything against HTC here, an army of followers who kiss their feet just because they gave HTC Hero to us, will start accusing you in treachery.

Let me tell you this, if it had been so important for HTC to release an update, we would have already have it in our hands. And bug free (as much as possible, since it will never be bug free).

It's all a matter of priorities. People here fail to understand that. They are too busy thanking the HTC god for making a phone.

Nah. I think everyone on here wants the update yesterday - (deleted uncalled for text)
 
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Well, kingvortex, nice to see you lifting your head. I can sense the contempt In your reply, but that's ok, it is probably there because you know nothing about software development.

Well, if you grow up and want to be a software engineer, here is the first lesson for you.

Lesson number 1:
A success software project is always measured by budget and schedule.
Always work by a defined schedule, and let your customers know your roadmap and planned features.

Digging the thinly veiled insults. It'll take more than that to get me to start slinging mud, though.;)
As a customer of HTC, I already have what was advertised (Android 1.5 with Sense) and an update to fix the performance of the original operating system on my phone.
Now, if we were paying for updates or HTC had even promised them as part of the original purchase then we would have some expectations on them to inform us as to when they will be available. They did not, however.
The (free) update is being worked on. That's all I need to know for now, as my phone already has features that vanilla 2.0 hasn't got, going by posts from Droid users that I've seen.
Care to comment on the testing phase that a major software release must go through, or does your company not test software before releasing it to customers? Or will you just ignore that point as you have done with other valid points throughout this topic?
 
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OMW...cannot believe that I have actually sat here and read this, think you are all as bad as each other.

I agree that the OP maybe could have put their message across in a slightly different manner, but hey, we are all entitled to our opinions, nobody was made to vote or reply. I have to say I do feel that it is becoming very frustrating being stuck with 1.5 especially when all we seem to read about is all the great Apps etc that a large number of members are enjoying so of course it hurts. Lets face it one minute we were expecting 1.6 then the next thing we knew was jumping to 2.1 so that was a bit of a bummer to start off with. Spose it does not help coming on here and reading about what we could have then maybe we would be grateful for what we do have which at the end of the day is a great phone. All the speculating does not help either. It will happen and we just have to wait but for some of us it helps to let off some steam without it then being thrown back in our faces.
 
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Care to comment on the testing phase that a major software release must go through, or does your company not test software before releasing it to customers? Or will you just ignore that point as you have done with other valid points throughout this topic?

So tell me please, where is the freaking schedule for this? one week, two weeks, one month, six months?? no one knows...

I wonder what will satisfy you?
 
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So tell me please, where is the freaking schedule for this? one week, two weeks, one month, six months?? no one knows...

I wonder what will satisfy you?
What will satisfy you? An update from HTC saying they don't know when it will be released? It will be on their site when it's ready and not before.
As a software engineer, why didn't you check the SW version before buying a Hero? There are plenty of 1.6 or even 2.0 devices out there that you could have purchased.
Again, HTC are under no obligation to release an update for the Hero. None. They are working on it, so be glad of that.
I too want the update, mainly for the Bluetooth functionality it will bring, but I can wait, without stamping my feet and shouting "NOW NOW NOW!!":D
 
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What will satisfy you? An update from HTC saying they don't know when it will be released? It will be on their site when it's ready and not before.
As a software engineer, why didn't you check the SW version before buying a Hero? There are plenty of 1.6 or even 2.0 devices out there that you could have purchased.
Again, HTC are under no obligation to release an update for the Hero. None. They are working on it, so be glad of that.
I too want the update, mainly for the Bluetooth functionality it will bring, but I can wait, without stamping my feet and shouting "NOW NOW NOW!!":D

When I purchased my Hero, 1.5 was the latest version!

I knew than, that updates will come and that as opposed to other OSs and devices, we will be able to update and enjoy latest software and ROMs.
I believed that HTC will create updates for their phones, and that those updates will enable us to enjoy the product.

I was surprised to see that 1.6 is not released (no voice search, navigation and more) but was happy to see the twitt regarding jumping to 2.0.

BUT that was 2 months ago, and still no news regarding any updates! instead we have posts where people are guessing when this update will come.

I believe in customers power, and I don't think we will get anything if we just sit and wait. Instead of turning your frustration to HTC, you turn it on me. I guess some people like to be passive.
 
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This is becoming a routine. A new great app is coming out for Android, but is does not support 1.5.
Even Google itself does not support this version since it is too old.

I am sick of this, it seems c.

We should get 2.0 already!!!

HTC, today's smart phones are measured in cool apps. You want to beat the IPhone, start moving your people and create this d*$m update.

HTC Hero - 2.0 or die

Dear me but you do seem to have a HECK of a lot of spare time on your hands. Normally I don't waste my time replying to such rabid fanboyishness but this is too ludicrous to ignore. So, I shall go point by point.

1. HTC doesn't owe us any new android updates.

2. The Hero has Android 1.5 PLUS HTC sense, so OF COURSE it's going to take a little longer to get it out to us.

3. Smartphones are NOT judged on 'cool apps.' They are also judged on design, ease of use, and speed, to name a few things.

4. Who are you to say that HTC doesn't care about its customers?

5.Why are you taking this so personally AND so seriously? WAIT and have some patience. Methinks that even when we get 2.1, you won't be happy beacuse by then something else will have caught your attention.

6. 'I did not say give us 2.0 or die regarding HTC (you should practice your reading comprehension a bit, nothing to be ashamed of)

HTC hero should get 2.0 or it will die - as in thrown to the garbage '

Saying 'something something or die' is generally interpreted that way, and not the way you said. So perhaps it is you who needs to brush up on reading comprehension.
Alos the Hero is a great phone even without 2.1. Why throw your toys out the cot over this? I'm sure there are other use for that white hot rage of yours.

7. 'I find it funny that people agreed to pay $600+ for a device and are so blind to what's going on around them...

...I find it funny that people agreed to pay $600+ for a device and are so blind to what's going on around them'

See point #2. I'd rather have a finished operating system than a buggy one released a little quicker because of impatience. I am quite happy to wait.

8. 'Believe me that I know how the software business works'
I find that so very hard to believe. What reason do you have to think that HCT isn't working on it? Why so much bile?

9. 'Why did you buy Android in the first place? it seems you are not the typical user. I thought my fellow users will be technical enthusiasts like me, people who like to get the latest version of everything and are not afraid to try new things'

Um...who are you to say who the 'typical user' is? To me, the typical Android user is someone who likes a fun phone, and is fairly laid back about the whole thing, NOT, for example, some shrill entitlement beast, but that's just my opinion. Some people prefer iphone type functionality, some are happy with Nokia's simplicity.

10. 'but as soon as you write anything against HTC here, an army of followers who kiss their feet just because they gave HTC Hero to us, will start accusing you in treachery'

It's not what you're saying, it's the way you're saying it, in the manner of a spoiled child denied sweets. WHY are you so angry and bitter about this?

Out of interest, why did you get a Hero?

11. 'I believe in customers power, and I don't think we will get anything if we just sit and wait. Instead of turning your frustration to HTC, you turn it on me. I guess some people like to be passive'

As opposed to, say, emailing HTC and asking when 2.1 is coming out? You have done that, right?
 
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...Lesson number 1:
A success software project is always measured by budget and schedule.
Always work by a defined schedule, and let your customers know your roadmap and planned features.

I really don't know many companies that DO lay out their roadmap.

When I purchased my Hero, 1.5 was the latest version!...
...BUT that was 2 months ago, and still no news regarding any updates! instead we have posts where people are guessing when this update will come.

I believe in customers power, and I don't think we will get anything if we just sit and wait. Instead of turning your frustration to HTC, you turn it on me. I guess some people like to be passive.

What would tell you that you bought the Hero with 1.5 and would receive upgrades? I bought a BlackBerry 8100 and it didn't really receive much... just a replacement model of 8120.

Why are you here yelling at all these people like this instead of taking it directly to HTC? I agree that it would be NICE to receive the upgrade, but it is not mandatory for them to do. Voice your desire to HTC. That is how things get done, not on forums!
 
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Maybe HTC have had problems. From what I've seen 2.x has many new features including rotating home screens - it could be possible that Sense needs a huge rework.

Who knows, maybe Motorola have an exclusivity period with 2.x...

Or maybe HTC just don't see it as a priority to upgrade a perfectly good already fully functional phone.

The first reasonable response here.
It's all PRIORITIES
 
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I got a lot of spare time on my hands?!
This is the longest post i ever seen in any forum. This is a guinness record here!

But unfortunately, Elpelco, you were late for class today. We already discussed all those points.

So tell me something new please.

sure, it was a long post. Seen longer, didn't take me very long. If you notice, most of the text was your rantings.

And, No, everyone ELSE was discussing them, you were ignoring the points raised.

I ask again: Have you contected HTC to ASK when they're releasing 2.1 for the Hero? it's a simple question, yes or no answer.
 
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Why are you here yelling at all these people like this instead of taking it directly to HTC? I agree that it would be NICE to receive the upgrade, but it is not mandatory for them to do. Voice your desire to HTC. That is how things get done, not on forums!

You really think that a single person's email is better than public vibes?
Ever heard of power to the people?

come on, we're all customers, we all paid for this, we all should be treated as such.
 
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