Help Samsung Moment Tethering

Talyn · Dec 5, 2009

@cheesemoo
Any clue why AZIlink will not transmit data to my computer when it is roaming?
I can get on my moment and view pages, but it will not receive data requests from the computer, but it will send them.

This is a problem for me, I hope all android phones are not this way.
I already noticed it throws a fit on occasions with roaming data.

cheesemoo · Dec 5, 2009

Talyn, I'm not entirely sure. I've only been roaming once, and it seemed to work okay I think (the signal strength was really bad but I think before I lost coverage altogether it did let me download some data).

When I first went roaming, my phone freaked out and was like "OH MY GOSH YOU'RE ROAMING DO YOU REALLY WANT TO USE THE DATA CONNECTION?". I just told it to never bother me about it again, to always let me use data while roaming. If you already did that, and your phone lets you surf the web etc. while roaming without bugging you, then I'm not sure what else you can do. If you didn't tell it to never bug you again, then it might be that the Azilink service just doesn't ask you or something, so it never uses data while roaming unless you already said to never bug you about it.

Anyway, sorry if that isn't very helpful. As I said, I've only been roaming once and the cell coverage was really bad... I don't really remember if I got data over Azilink or not. Maybe send the Azilink developer an email about it? His email is listed at azilink - Project Hosting on Google Code (sorry, don't want to just post it here - spambots and all)

Stoney62 · Dec 5, 2009

MrFuzzykins said:
I followed the recipe on the Sprint Community site:

Samsung Moment:USB connectivity - Samsung Moment

Settings/Applications/Developement/USB debugging
-Uncheck USB debugging
-Status Notification will show USB icon
-Bring down Notification bar and select USB connected
-Select Mount from next menu and now your computer will read your device

Now I get Samsung New PC Studio to recognize and see my Samsung Moment on my laptop (running XP Pro SP2). However, I still have the problem on my desktop (running XP pro SP3), when I plug the Samsung Moment in, all I get in USB is Unknown device. Using USBview I do not see any data on this Unknown device (all fields have 0x00 value). Have tried to remove and re-install the Samsung New PC Studio several times (including deleteing anything I see Samsung in the registry). The worst thing is the Samsung Moment would hang up and have to remove the battery to get it restarted.

I even tried to remove the USB devices (got me scared because after removing the keyboard and mouse USB device, after I reboot the keyboard and mouse USB drivers did not get restored, luckily after poking the F8 key I managed to reboot with last known good condition!!! Phew!!).

So still puzzling here to see how I can connect the Samsung Moment with my desk top.

Silverexpress said:
I'm posting this for cgarym7:

1. Make sure the Moment is not connected to your PC
2. Download and Install New Studio PC from the link above or
Download the stripped drivers from Studio PC a few threads up, and
store in some location on your hard drive.
3. Once the Studio PC installation is done, you can now download (if you haven't already) and install PDANET 1.17 on your laptop. It will stop with a pop up
and a list of instructions for moving forward with the installation.....

4. Now, on your Moment, you'll want to turn on "USB DEBUGGING".
Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB DEBUGGING
5. Connect the Moment to your PC. The PC will now start installing the
necessary drivers. If you've grabbed the stripped drivers, you'll have to
manually point the install to the folder locations.
6. Once all drivers are done. Hit OK on the PDANET installation prompt. The PC will now install PDANET on your Moment.
7. Once done. Go back to the Moment and look for PDANET. Turn it on while it's still connected to the PC. It should now make a connection.

OK, so what is it? debugging checked or unchecked?

Stoney62 · Dec 5, 2009

cheesemoo said:
Rar files are pretty common. WinRAR has a free trial that never really expires, or you can just use 7zip, which really is free forever. Both will unpack the rar file for you.

I'll testify to that. I've had winrar for a couple years now. It always tells me it's expired and I need to upgrade. But it has yet to fail to extract the rar file when asked to

cheesemoo · Dec 5, 2009

Hey Stoney62. You definitely need debugging on to tether your phone. I'm not sure what that first post is going on about, seems to be about mounting your SD card as a USB drive... which works with debugging enabled anyway (as long as you have the drivers installed), so I don't know why they said you have to turn debugging off.

And the second post has you using PdaNet. If you can get it working, that's great, but I have had nothing but trouble with it. Azilink, on the other hand, is free and was very easy for me to get working on both WinXP-32 and Win7-64. Just download the package I posted on page 2 of this thread, and follow the instructions in the readme.

(One thing I did forget in the readme: after you install Azilink to your phone, you need to launch the app and fill in the checkbox to enable the service.)

Scott Buss · Dec 5, 2009

cheesemoo said:
I'm not sure where you saw that stuff about the OpenVPN config/key files. Maybe in the official Azilink docs? Anyway, all you should need is in that pack I made already. The config file you'd be looking for is in the package, located at Azilink/OpenVPN/azilink.ovpn. But it sounds like you already found another copy and got it working, so you probably don't need to change your setup.

Anyway, if you got it working at all, then I don't know why it would suddenly stop and need a restart. I have never tethered for more than a half hour or so at a time, but it has never just died on me. The only problem I've had is that it will sometimes just not start (on my XP-32 machine), and I'll have to reboot my PC. Never had any problems at all with Win7-64.

Are you seeing the disconnects on both your XP and Win7 machines, or only on the XP box?

Are any other Moment users experiencing disconnects like this?
Anyone with a Hero care to comment?
Please post your OS if you do, it might be helpful in diagnosing this.

I was having trouble with the disconnecting. I opened up the config file and changed keep alive from 10 30 to 20 60 and ping from 10 to 20.
There was a discussion on an OpenVpn blog, here is a quote. This may solve disconnects? What do you think, it seems to be working now, maybe it is conincidence.

The keepalive directive causes ping-like
# messages to be sent back and forth over
# the link so that each side knows when
# the other side has gone down.
# Ping every 10 seconds, assume that remote
# peer is down if no ping received during
# a 120 second time period.
keepalive 10 120

AlkiDweller · Dec 6, 2009

Cheesemoo,

In your batch file that's suppose to start the program, what does %-dp0 suppose to do?

If I execute the commands from the batch file by themselves (in the appropriate folder and without the %-dp0) it starts without a problem. But it doesn't run from your batchfile.

intristin · Dec 6, 2009

Ok this is the error message that keeps popping up on my phone when azilink crashes om my handset.

Code:

this application AziLink (process org.lfx.azilink) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again

Like I said in a post above, this crash comes after an hour or two connected. To fix the problem I have to restart my phone. Any ideas?

cheesemoo · Dec 6, 2009

Scott Buss said:
I was having trouble with the disconnecting. I opened up the config file and changed keep alive from 10 30 to 20 60 and ping from 10 to 20.
There was a discussion on an OpenVpn blog, here is a quote. This may solve disconnects? What do you think, it seems to be working now, maybe it is conincidence.

The keepalive directive causes ping-like
# messages to be sent back and forth over
# the link so that each side knows when
# the other side has gone down.
# Ping every 10 seconds, assume that remote
# peer is down if no ping received during
# a 120 second time period.
keepalive 10 120

Could you link to the blog entry? I must say I really don't know anything about OpenVPN, so I don't know if that change would help things or not.

Over the weekend, I was forced to use Azilink with an XP machine for an extended period of time (forgot the charger for my Win7 laptop, stupid me). Anyway, it worked fine for a while and then after a half hour or so I lost internet access. There were no error messages from OpenVPN, but I checked usbdeview and the phone itself was shown as not connected. Replugging didn't change anything, but rebooting the phone made it recognized in Windows again, and Azilink worked for another little while before doing the same disconnect.

I'm not sure if the problem is with WinXP or with the phone. I am now going to try Azilink with my Win7 laptop and see how long it lasts. If it works fine until I go to bed in a few hours, I'll assume the problem is inherent in XP. Anyway, I'll post back later and let you all know how it went.

cheesemoo · Dec 6, 2009

AlkiDweller said:
Cheesemoo,

In your batch file that's suppose to start the program, what does %-dp0 suppose to do?

If I execute the commands from the batch file by themselves (in the appropriate folder and without the %-dp0) it starts without a problem. But it doesn't run from your batchfile.

I don't know how it works, but %~dp0 gives you the directory the batch file is running in. So for example "%~dp0\adb\adb" runs a program called adb in a directory called adb which is one level deeper than the directory the batch file is running in.

You will probably have better luck if you put the paths in quotes. For some reason, some of my computers don't mind them unquoted (even if there are spaces in the path), but some freak out. Anyway, using this might fix your problem:

Code:

"%~dp0\adb\adb" kill-server
"%~dp0\adb\adb" forward tcp:41927 tcp:41927
"C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\bin\openvpn.exe" "%~dp0\OpenVPN\azilink.ovpn"

Let me know if that fixes it for you, or what error message you get if it doesn't fix it. Thanks!

cheesemoo · Dec 6, 2009

intristin said:
Ok this is the error message that keeps popping up on my phone when azilink crashes om my handset.

Code:

this application AziLink (process org.lfx.azilink) has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again

Like I said in a post above, this crash comes after an hour or two connected. To fix the problem I have to restart my phone. Any ideas?

Interesting. I have never had Azilink crash on my phone. Try contacting the guy who made Azilink. Maybe he will have a suggestion, or he might have you send some logs in to help diagnose the problem.

His address is found on this page:
azilink - Project Hosting on Google Code

cheesemoo · Dec 6, 2009

cheesemoo said:
I'm not sure if the problem is with WinXP or with the phone. I am now going to try Azilink with my Win7 laptop and see how long it lasts. If it works fine until I go to bed in a few hours, I'll assume the problem is inherent in XP. Anyway, I'll post back later and let you all know how it went.

Well, crap. It worked for all of a couple minutes before doing the exact same thing it did in XP. Not sure why I haven't noticed this before...

Rebooting the laptop didn't help; I had to reboot the phone for Windows to recognize it as a USB device again.

Anyway, this sucks, and I'm rather puzzled as to why it's happening. The problem certainly seems to be on the phone, but whether it's hardware or software, I don't know.

I'm going to try moving a bunch of files on and off of my SD card... if it fails then, I'll assume the problem is hardware. If not, then it could be software. Might have to give PdaNet a try (though people don't seem to be having much luck with it and Win7-64).

Talyn · Dec 6, 2009

I have the issue with windows not recognizing it as a USB device. with PDA net and AZIlink.

kahale · Dec 6, 2009

pdanet works quite well for tethering despite paying $29 for https connections to work after 30 days im happy with it. imo idk azilink seems more of a hassle to bother with, although it is free. i had some trouble setting up pdanet cuz of the lack of usb drivers. after i used the provided driver pack which i dled here in the thread it was smooth sailing. pdanet does radomaly disconnect sometimes, though hardly a bother.

intristin · Dec 6, 2009

I used pdanet on my touch pro with no problems for over a year. But now I have the moment and I keep getting the DrWhatever error during install. It just wont install. So I'm using azi now which has the whole crashing issue, but works for the most part.

kahale · Dec 6, 2009

intristin said:
I used pdanet on my touch pro with no problems for over a year. But now I have the moment and I keep getting the DrWhatever error during install. It just wont install. So I'm using azi now which has the whole crashing issue, but works for the most part.

for pdanet im using xp pro sp3
pdanet ver a2.12
samsung driver pack provided in this thread

i installed pdanet. manually selected location of driver pack when asked. pdanet does not seem to install all of the required drivers for some reason.

intristin · Dec 6, 2009

I have pro sp2. I never got any option to point at drivers during install. The drivers for the phone are working fine, my computer can see the phone and connect to it with no problem.

No idea what the Dr. whatever crash is coming from..

LincKraker · Dec 7, 2009

REMOVED

do what intristin suggested instead.

intristin · Dec 7, 2009

For anyone who was having the Dr. Watson error with PDANet this issue has been fixed with ver a214 that seems to have just been released. Both my roomate on win7-64 and me on xp32 installed this new version and it works perfectly. No issues at all. You can get it via the link below...

PdaNet -- USB Tether/Bluetooth DUN for Android

NOMster · Dec 7, 2009

AWWWWWSOME. finally working for me. thank you whoever got through and got it working.

kobuu · Dec 8, 2009

ok. so i read most of the original posts from others. first I downloaded the stripped drivers from here: Samsung Stripped Drivers . Then i downloaded the newest PDAnet from here: PDAnet for Android. I have a macbook running OS X snow leopard with VMfusion. on my PC side, i installed PDAnet. When it asked to install the new software I pointed it to the folder of drivers that was on my desktop. it found them all. after updating to PDAnet 2.12 on my Moment, I put the widget on my home screen and clicked the USB button. enabled the connection on my PC and was instantly connected at 2.4Mb/s! Good luck to all and thank you to those that have contributed! You make life so much easier for the rest of us!!!

also, i could not get that Samsung PC thing to give me the right drivers! Use the ones in the stripped .zip file link. So easy!!

-Kobuu

atccfi · Dec 12, 2009

LincKraker said:
So we have the drivers we NEED. I pulled them out of that huge file and zipped them up into a much smaller file easier to download. Samsung Moment USB Drivers

LincKraker,
YOU DA MAN!!! Thank you. Those drivers did the trick. Thank you. Tethering as I type....

murf3030 · Dec 13, 2009

cheesemoo said:
I put together a package with everything that I used to get tethering working with my Moment in XP-32 and Win7-64. I assume it'll work with other versions of Windows, including Vista. There's a readme inside with the basic steps I took to get things working. Let me know if you have problems!

I uploaded it all over since I'm not sure which sites have time limits on free account uploads or whatever.

Download links:
Sendspace.com
Mediafire.com
RapidShare.com
GigaSize.com
MEGAUPLOAD.com

First of all, I have a new Gateway Netbook with Windows 7 Starter. I have a question. I am following these instructions and when I run the "Start Azilink" batch file, it just keeps running over and over. Will this work on Windows 7 Starter? If so, what would cause the problem I am having? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

cheesemoo · Dec 13, 2009

murf3030 said:
First of all, I have a new Gateway Netbook with Windows 7 Starter. I have a question. I am following these instructions and when I run the "Start Azilink" batch file, it just keeps running over and over. Will this work on Windows 7 Starter? If so, what would cause the problem I am having? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

What do you mean running over and over? Like, it keeps retrying the connection or something? Please post the text you're seeing in the command window.

I don't know why it wouldn't work with Win7 Starter, but I don't know much about that edition.

ShepsCrook · Dec 14, 2009

I have followed the steps posted here a couple of times.

0. Enable USB Debugging
1. Install Samsung Studio
2. Connect Moment
3. Samsung Studio recognizes the moment.
4. Install PDANet 2.14
5. Restarted Moment
6. Tried to connect using PDANet
"Failed to Connect, Please check your phone and make sure PdaNet has been turned on."

That's the furthest I've gotten.

**Edit**

It would appear as though I've corrected the issue. I had to reinstall PDANet on the phone and it worked.

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