Gingerbread (aka Android 2.3) on Evo!

coldfuzion · Dec 27, 2010

Would the (supposedly) stable gingerbread roms that are out there right now work the same as REAL gingerbread (in the sense that gingerbread is supposedly snappier and has better/faster touch response)? Those were kind of the big things I was looking for from gingerbread , the UI changes being something i could live without...

EarlyMon · Dec 28, 2010

coldfuzion said:
Would the (supposedly) stable gingerbread roms that are out there right now work the same as REAL gingerbread (in the sense that gingerbread is supposedly snappier and has better/faster touch response)?

Android is part of a Free/Open Source Software movement.

Google derived Android from Linux (actually, it's more of specialized port than a derivation, maybe - depends if you're looking at it from a software or legal point of view).

As such, when at the right point, Google puts the Android code into a publicly accessible repository called the Android Open Source Project (AOSP) repository.

The Gingerbread roms that are out now have taken the operating system upgrades from that repository and are refining those non-transportable parts for our phones:

the kernel
the device drivers (I'll just include radio support here, even if that's not canonically correct, it's close enough for this post)
any app mix that the rom developer prefers over those of Google's - or in our case, HTC's - choices for the final distribution

I'm not personally aware that 2.3 has snappier touch response - 2.2 with the right kernel certainly seemed to on our Evos. Gingerbread certainly has performance improvements - some of which are expressed in terms of gaming features.

I've not looked since before the 25th, but I'm not aware that there are Evo-specific 2.3 distributions with all phone hardware features working.

Coming very soon, perhaps, but today - really?

HTC has said that Gingerbread can co-exist nicely with Sense.

We're going to have to wait until the rumors die to see if that's indeed true for our Evos and the new Sense - no telling what hardware requirements (I'm looking at you, 512 MB ram) will be needed.

I'm guessing that we'll be ok, fwiw - and that it's coming sooner than many think. But - that's strictly a personal opinion, not a fact of life.

Pertinax · Dec 28, 2010

EarlyMon said:
Not to get TOO FAR off-topic - but you might check out what's happening in tablets - especially the Notion Ink, that's the one I've got my eye on.

Yep, next year will be the 'Year of the Tablet'. I have a Notion Ink pre ordered and expect to see it and many others at CES.

Rambler358 · Dec 30, 2010

Pertinax said:
Yep, next year will be the 'Year of the Tablet'. I have a Notion Ink pre ordered and expect to see it and many others at CES.

Ditto! My Notion Ink Adam has an expected ship date of Jan 9th - can't wait!

Private · Dec 30, 2010

I havn't been on htc evo news for a while. So, when is it comming out and how do you install it.

EarlyMon · Dec 30, 2010

No word on an official release, rooters are installing versions with features not fully working yet to keep on the cutting edge - kinda like a Froyo replay, really.

SirCheese · Jan 4, 2011

mdulcey said:
The good news: Sprint recently pushed out an update for the Evo. (I got mine on New Years Eve.) The bad news: it isn't Gingerbread, it's just an update to Froyo.

You sure this wasn't the update from the 15th?

EVOlition7 · Jan 4, 2011

The gingerbread update will go to the evo because it surpasses the requirements and the update will change the evos screen resolution on it's own.I did the research. The gingerbread update will change the screens resolution

EarlyMon · Jan 4, 2011

EVOlition7 said:
The gingerbread update will go to the evo because it surpasses the requirements and the update will change the evos screen resolution on it's own.I did the research. The gingerbread update will change the screens resolution

That's completely unpossible.

The screen resolution is dictated by the physical LCD matrix.

EarlyMon · Jan 6, 2011

(referring to recent housecleaning) Humor's not the issue - when something like this comes along too juicy to pass up, just create a side-thread for it in The Lounge (not the Android Lounge, they're different) and party on over there. Leave a link to here so others can go join in the fun.

The only issue is this has gone too far off-topic and therefore not belonging here. A comment or two here, a snicker or two there, ok, no problem, in context of staying on-topic.

Other questions or comments, PM me, otherwise I'm compelled to remove further posts on the off-topic issues - Da Rules. You got 'em, I got 'em.

EarlyMon · Jan 6, 2011

Confusion over how high-res displays works dates back to the earlier HDTV days when the big makers started marketing their 720p displays as actually 1080i displays, rather than simply saying 1080i compatible. The confusion over this lingers for many.

The way an LCD screen works is pretty simple - you have a backlight - the whole size of the display is just a big light - and each red, green and blue subpixel has an LCD layer that's kinda like a shutter or mask at each little subpixel - it opens or closes to let more or less light through - and then that light passes through a little colored covering of red, blue, or green - three of those makes up a pixel - and on the Evo, there are physically 800x480 of those - or counting subpixels, 1,152,000 little holes for the light to get out.

Gingerbread can't change that physical deal, no software can.

This is all true regardless of the display technology, so far as we know how to build things today.

ndh777 · Jan 10, 2011

I know this question may be asked a bit, but I was wondering if there was any way of finding out if Android 2.3 is coming to HTC Evos?

I know that Motorola has a special webpage made just for finding out if and when new versions of Android will be sent for each device and how. Does HTC or Sprint have something like that? Or does anyone know if it'll come?

jersey221 · Jan 10, 2011

well if your rooted theres roms out there but there hasn't been any official word on it.

edlex · Jan 10, 2011

ndh777 said:
I know this question may be asked a bit, but I was wondering if there was any way of finding out if Android 2.3 is coming to HTC Evos?

I know that Motorola has a special webpage made just for finding out if and when new versions of Android will be sent for each device and how. Does HTC or Sprint have something like that? Or does anyone know if it'll come?

Yes, it's called "keep reading this forum thread".

dan330 · Jan 10, 2011

its on a need to know base... and guess what?

hendodo · Jan 10, 2011

Any word on Gingerbread? I haven't really been up on Evo News lately, too busy just enjoying it.

EarlyMon · Jan 10, 2011

nope, still waiting to hear

dvrdwn · Jan 10, 2011

I was just googling the release date for android 2.3 on the EVO and found an article on when 2.3 was going to be released. It basicly said that once google releases the software kit to the developers its up to the cell phone manufacturers to decide which phones they want to get it and then see how the compatibility is between the phone and software. Then they deal with the carriers to release the OTA update.

Read it here for yourself.

When will you get a Gingerbread update? | Android Atlas - CNET Blogs

EarlyMon · Jan 10, 2011

Good article!

They pushed the source code for 2.3 into the repository (AOSP) around Dec 17~18 (one of those days).

They pushed 2.2 into AOSP on June 23, we got our update 6 weeks later - considering the extra work HTC and Sprint had to do, that was way fast and quick.

If they repeat that same kinda push, we could see it around the beginning of February - however - we probably need to derate such a projection for that because of the holiday season off days, any work being done for new Sense, and the new phones they just released.

If they get it to us much later than first week of February, it's notionally going to feel slow / late to us - but may not really be because of the above factors.

All we can do is get the popcorn and watch the calendar.

dvrdwn · Jan 10, 2011

yep. Sit and wait. that artical mentioned that some phones that are slated to have 2.2 (yes I said 2.2) don't even have it yet.

dan330 · Jan 10, 2011

no.. not watching the calendar for me...
that is just plain self torture. tic-toc...

i will enjoy my Myn 2.2 ..
enjoy my EVO
enjoy data and more data

set my alarm on evo to go off mid Feburary.. and check for gingerbread ROMs that have been seasoned by the cornucopia of talented EVO Devs and cooked to tasty perfection.

Then I will check in the EPIC forum to see if they been able to get their Froyo threat. (yeah.. I know I will get flamed for this.. i am ready)

CriticalCritic · Jan 11, 2011

EarlyMon said:
... - however - we probably need to derate such a projection for that because of the holiday season off days, any work being done for new Sense, and the new phones they just released.
...
All we can do is get the popcorn and watch the calendar.

My thoughts exactly. Though I'm thinking that it will be further delayed because of the development/implementation of new Sense. I expect them to roll out the new Sense and Gingerbread bundled all together, then the inevitable patch for the whole deal a few weeks later. Rather than release one (gingerbread), then release the patch, then release the new Sense, and then the patch. So... considering the new OS and the new Sense, it should take a little longer.

Actually now that I think about it, it would be TERRIBLY inefficient to do it any other way! Why go through all of the trouble to overlay old Sense on the new OS, then go ahead and overlay new sense on the new OS after that?

EarlyMon · Jan 11, 2011

^Exactly.

However, just for the record - I derated my derating in another thread, now I'll say why:

These HTC guys are projecting for 60 million smartphone sales this year, a three-fold increase from last year. And they're far from dummies.

Based on that, my faith in their insight as to how this upgrade would beyaatch-slap the competition and how times my dog howled at the moon - I've put out there that I'm calling for Gingerbread + new Sense on the Evo on or before Feb 8. (unless I said before in that other thread, then that's what I'll stick to)

JunBringer · Jan 11, 2011

I hope you're right Mon.

EarlyMon · Jan 11, 2011

If they can lay that on us and Shift, it'll be an update heard round the world.

So much the better if they can include their other top-flight phones (but that requires carrier cooperation, too).

Gingerbread (aka Android 2.3) on Evo!

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